Child suffers severe burn after going to pamper party at a Wallington hairdresser

Sophia had to take a day off schools as she was burned by hair straighteners at a friend's party

Sophia had to take a day off schools as she was burned by hair straighteners at a friend's party

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A mum sent her little girl off to a friend's birthday party at a hairdresser's only for her to come back with a large burn on her arm.

Young Sophia Middleton was invited to a school friend's pamper party at Wallington salon Degenis's on Sunday but returned home with the injury after she burned her wrist on a pair of hair straighteners.

The six-year-old's mum said the Stafford Road salon should have done more to prevent the incident but the manager said Sophia was warned not to go near the hot straighteners on several occasions.

Degenis's hosts pamper parties for children aged five and older during which guests get their hair styled and have other beauty treatments.

It is understood the straighteners, which can reach temperatures above 220c and can take up to 40 minutes to cool down, were left on a chair and Sophia was burned on the inside of her wrist as she tried to reach over them.

Sutton Guardian:

The injury to Sophia's wrist

Sophia's mum said: "You don't expect to drop your child off at a party and then pick them up with burns on their arm.

"It's a really nasty injury, she was in a lot of pain - so much that she could not sleep and we had to run her wrist underwater again. She had to take the day off school, it was that bad.

"I just can't believe something like this could be allowed to happen. I spoke to the manager and she said they watch over the children the whole time - if that's the case then this should not have happened."

The incident left Sophia with a large mark on her arm but she did not require hospital treatment.
Maria Digenis, manager of Degenis's, said: "We told the child three times but she kept going over to them.

"We keep the straighteners up high but the child kept going over there after them. We can't grab their hands and stop them.

"We had four adults here and four members of staff. We've been doing these parties for three years and we've never had anything like this.

"It's a hairdresser, not a playground so we are always telling the children to make sure they're careful. We feel like we nag sometimes.

"We do our utmost to keep children away from the straighteners."


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12:21pm Wed 30 Apr 14

PeterM says...

It's all down to who you believe, and in this instance I believe the salon.
It's all down to who you believe, and in this instance I believe the salon. PeterM
  • Score: 26

12:38pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Charlie97 says...

Why are children as young as six doing having parties in an adult environment?

What has happened with a visit to the farm or a bouncy castle?

Recipe for disaster, over excited children having access to hot and dangerous items.

I personally think there is an error of judgement on both the parents and the salons parts. Resulting in a child being hurt.
Why are children as young as six doing having parties in an adult environment? What has happened with a visit to the farm or a bouncy castle? Recipe for disaster, over excited children having access to hot and dangerous items. I personally think there is an error of judgement on both the parents and the salons parts. Resulting in a child being hurt. Charlie97
  • Score: 25

12:38pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Sutton Mum says...

Maybe little Sophia's parents need to teach their daughter that "no" means "no", rather than maliciously nipping off to the local paper to try to damage a local business.

Accidents happen, but if a child is told not to do something for fear of something happening, they need to listen and respect what they are told.

Can these parents really not see that their daughter was burned because of their failure to teach her who is in charge?
Maybe little Sophia's parents need to teach their daughter that "no" means "no", rather than maliciously nipping off to the local paper to try to damage a local business. Accidents happen, but if a child is told not to do something for fear of something happening, they need to listen and respect what they are told. Can these parents really not see that their daughter was burned because of their failure to teach her who is in charge? Sutton Mum
  • Score: 55

12:42pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Sutton Mum says...

Good point Charlie97.

Why are young children allowed to have these sorts of parties? What's nice about making your little girl look like a tart?
Good point Charlie97. Why are young children allowed to have these sorts of parties? What's nice about making your little girl look like a tart? Sutton Mum
  • Score: 26

12:42pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Farbinny Foil says...

I'd have to agree with PeterM, also can’t believe a day off school was required for a burn, hardly infectious or life threatening! Sounds like I certain little princess isn’t use to the word NO and is wrapped in to much cotton wool!
I'd have to agree with PeterM, also can’t believe a day off school was required for a burn, hardly infectious or life threatening! Sounds like I certain little princess isn’t use to the word NO and is wrapped in to much cotton wool! Farbinny Foil
  • Score: 40

1:04pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Craft107 says...

"It's a hairdresser, not a playground so we are always telling the children to make sure they're careful. We feel like we nag sometimes"

If this is the case, which I agree with incidentally, why are adults (both parents and salon owners) allowing childrens partiesto be held in it?

Parties + children = play

I agree with both Charlie 97 and Suttonmum
"It's a hairdresser, not a playground so we are always telling the children to make sure they're careful. We feel like we nag sometimes" If this is the case, which I agree with incidentally, why are adults (both parents and salon owners) allowing childrens partiesto be held in it? Parties + children = play I agree with both Charlie 97 and Suttonmum Craft107
  • Score: 27

2:11pm Wed 30 Apr 14

theavengers says...

Pamper parties can be fun and innocent (not tarty). But, no heat should be used. Cold curlers, facials (not makeup at very young age), nail painting, all good fun. Wouldn't want my daughter to come back hurt but surely wasn't the intention of the bday girls parents or the salon. A big learning curve that maybe the salon shouldn't use heat during parties for under 12's, that's all. So sorry to hear this little girl was hurt but just a bad accident.
Pamper parties can be fun and innocent (not tarty). But, no heat should be used. Cold curlers, facials (not makeup at very young age), nail painting, all good fun. Wouldn't want my daughter to come back hurt but surely wasn't the intention of the bday girls parents or the salon. A big learning curve that maybe the salon shouldn't use heat during parties for under 12's, that's all. So sorry to hear this little girl was hurt but just a bad accident. theavengers
  • Score: 0

6:10pm Wed 30 Apr 14

theresa7475 says...

My daughter and many of her friends attended parties here and have had a fabulous time. So much so that I've just booked her Party up!
I use straigheners on my hair, and they are left to cool on a heat mat on my hall table. My daughter has not ever touched them (even when younger!) luckily when I say no,she knows I mean it!
Sorry to hear this girl got burnt, but maybe she needs to understand that no means no! Next time, once finished with straightners/crimper
s etc place them out the back, out of harms way. Lessons learnt all round!
My daughter and many of her friends attended parties here and have had a fabulous time. So much so that I've just booked her Party up! I use straigheners on my hair, and they are left to cool on a heat mat on my hall table. My daughter has not ever touched them (even when younger!) luckily when I say no,she knows I mean it! Sorry to hear this girl got burnt, but maybe she needs to understand that no means no! Next time, once finished with straightners/crimper s etc place them out the back, out of harms way. Lessons learnt all round! theresa7475
  • Score: 4

6:23pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Sophia's mum says...

Maybe I ought to clarify something here. Sophia was reaching over to get her hair clip that had been taken out by one of the hairdressers. She didn't get burnt from misbehaving or as a consequence of repeatedly trying to play with the straighteners. The straighteners had been left on a chair!!!!!
My argument here is that this salon caters for parties from age 5 upwards. I was advised by the owner that the children are watched 24/7, yet nobody saw my daughter get burnt?!
These straighteners should have been placed well put of the way and in a heat proof pouch. If that were the case Sophia wouldn't have been burnt!
As for having a day off school, no it wasn't life threatening, however she was exhausted from being up half the night crying as her wrist was burning!
To be frank, the owner wasn't too concerned when I called her regarding my daughters wrist. There wasn't even an apology!
If I wanted to ruin a local business as mentioned by 'Sutton mum' I'm sure I could think of better ways rather than this! Maybe being a mum yourself you should think how you would feel if it was your child! It was very lucky it was Sophia's wrist and not her face!
I
Maybe I ought to clarify something here. Sophia was reaching over to get her hair clip that had been taken out by one of the hairdressers. She didn't get burnt from misbehaving or as a consequence of repeatedly trying to play with the straighteners. The straighteners had been left on a chair!!!!! My argument here is that this salon caters for parties from age 5 upwards. I was advised by the owner that the children are watched 24/7, yet nobody saw my daughter get burnt?! These straighteners should have been placed well put of the way and in a heat proof pouch. If that were the case Sophia wouldn't have been burnt! As for having a day off school, no it wasn't life threatening, however she was exhausted from being up half the night crying as her wrist was burning! To be frank, the owner wasn't too concerned when I called her regarding my daughters wrist. There wasn't even an apology! If I wanted to ruin a local business as mentioned by 'Sutton mum' I'm sure I could think of better ways rather than this! Maybe being a mum yourself you should think how you would feel if it was your child! It was very lucky it was Sophia's wrist and not her face! I Sophia's mum
  • Score: -26

9:27am Thu 1 May 14

RP_CPN says...

" I was advised by the owner that the children are watched 24/7,"

Yikes!
" I was advised by the owner that the children are watched 24/7," Yikes! RP_CPN
  • Score: 10

9:48am Thu 1 May 14

PeterM says...

I just wanted to add something to what I have already said as my initial comment may have come across as cold and harsh.

It's not very nice that a child has been injured, but parents must accept that their children are not always the little angels that they think that they are. I'm a youth leader in my spare time and look after children between the ages of 6 and 11. On occasions I've had to impose a temporary ban on a child attending our group and when the parents ring me up I often find that the child has given them a different tale and omitted about 50% of what actually happened. When confronted with the truth, and backed up by other adults who witnessed what happened, the parents often go bright red and go very quiet .

From my personal experience I'm inclined to believe the salon owner in this instance. It would be sad that if the actions of one unruly disobedient child has now stopped other, more well behaved, children from enjoying an experience such as this.
I just wanted to add something to what I have already said as my initial comment may have come across as cold and harsh. It's not very nice that a child has been injured, but parents must accept that their children are not always the little angels that they think that they are. I'm a youth leader in my spare time and look after children between the ages of 6 and 11. On occasions I've had to impose a temporary ban on a child attending our group and when the parents ring me up I often find that the child has given them a different tale and omitted about 50% of what actually happened. When confronted with the truth, and backed up by other adults who witnessed what happened, the parents often go bright red and go very quiet . From my personal experience I'm inclined to believe the salon owner in this instance. It would be sad that if the actions of one unruly disobedient child has now stopped other, more well behaved, children from enjoying an experience such as this. PeterM
  • Score: 26

10:02am Thu 1 May 14

cheammum72 says...

I'm sorry to hear that little Sophia got hurt, of course. However, what a shame also for the little girl who's party this was!! It sounds like a really lovely idea - what a treat and I'm sure this being plastered over the local press has completely spoilt her memory of it! Why can't the Mum here deal with this in a civilised communicative manner - what's the world coming to, that we want to address problems in the public eye for all and sundry to see!

Mishaps happen, kids get hurt and I'm sure this little girl had some time in pain, but sometimes this is way that kids learn to do what they're told quickest and it sounds like this has been blown totally out of proportion. Kids shouldn't be rolled up in cotton wool, they need to learn to repsect hazards.
I think it's really sad if we stop kids having experiences that may present some minor hazards. The guy above mentioned farms and bouncy castles - each with an element of risk but that's life, personally as a Mum of 2, tree climbing boys, I am saddened by those who take the cotton wool approach.
And if the parents of the birthday girl are reading this? Hopefully this "go to the press" approach from Sophia's Mum will result in good advertising for the salon and your lovely (and I would imagine expensive) treat will be appreciated by the rest!!
Cheam Mum of 2
I'm sorry to hear that little Sophia got hurt, of course. However, what a shame also for the little girl who's party this was!! It sounds like a really lovely idea - what a treat and I'm sure this being plastered over the local press has completely spoilt her memory of it! Why can't the Mum here deal with this in a civilised communicative manner - what's the world coming to, that we want to address problems in the public eye for all and sundry to see! Mishaps happen, kids get hurt and I'm sure this little girl had some time in pain, but sometimes this is way that kids learn to do what they're told quickest and it sounds like this has been blown totally out of proportion. Kids shouldn't be rolled up in cotton wool, they need to learn to repsect hazards. I think it's really sad if we stop kids having experiences that may present some minor hazards. The guy above mentioned farms and bouncy castles - each with an element of risk but that's life, personally as a Mum of 2, tree climbing boys, I am saddened by those who take the cotton wool approach. And if the parents of the birthday girl are reading this? Hopefully this "go to the press" approach from Sophia's Mum will result in good advertising for the salon and your lovely (and I would imagine expensive) treat will be appreciated by the rest!! Cheam Mum of 2 cheammum72
  • Score: 25

11:36am Thu 1 May 14

fargis says...

Sexulisation of kids continues.. Yet few here seem concerned about the long lasting damage this is causing our kids. 6 years old you should be running around not having their hair done.
Sexulisation of kids continues.. Yet few here seem concerned about the long lasting damage this is causing our kids. 6 years old you should be running around not having their hair done. fargis
  • Score: 2

11:57am Thu 1 May 14

mr muscle says...

I think cotton wool mum is going to be a little embarrassed at the school gate! Yes people will be whispering about how petty you are! Secondly that is the most lame newspaper story I have ever seen! I suppose your the lady who burnt her mouth on a mcdonalds apple pie. Sutton guardian you really are dredging the barrel with this story.
I think cotton wool mum is going to be a little embarrassed at the school gate! Yes people will be whispering about how petty you are! Secondly that is the most lame newspaper story I have ever seen! I suppose your the lady who burnt her mouth on a mcdonalds apple pie. Sutton guardian you really are dredging the barrel with this story. mr muscle
  • Score: 17

12:20pm Thu 1 May 14

Wallington mum says...

Wow I am utterly shock at the amount of comments blaming a 6 year old child! If the salon owner had repeatedly told Sophia to stop using the straightners it might have been a good idea to actually move them, why would you leave them there based on your beliefs that no means no? It is not uncommon for little girls to want to mimic adults and even if she had decided at 6 years old she fancied doing her own hair she should not have been able to get near the straightners!!! I am a mother of 3 daughters and a qualified hairdresser I have a heat proof pouch for straightners it's a basic and cheap piece if kit! Left on a chair?? I'm sure that breaches salon health and safety and insurance. It seems to me these comments must be coming from salon staff, as no parent would accept their child being burnt. I think the salon owner needs to accept responsibility and apologises for the poor care shown to a child in her care, let's hope poor Sophia isn't lets scarred! I certainly won't be booking one of these parties, one child burnt is one too many!!
Wow I am utterly shock at the amount of comments blaming a 6 year old child! If the salon owner had repeatedly told Sophia to stop using the straightners it might have been a good idea to actually move them, why would you leave them there based on your beliefs that no means no? It is not uncommon for little girls to want to mimic adults and even if she had decided at 6 years old she fancied doing her own hair she should not have been able to get near the straightners!!! I am a mother of 3 daughters and a qualified hairdresser I have a heat proof pouch for straightners it's a basic and cheap piece if kit! Left on a chair?? I'm sure that breaches salon health and safety and insurance. It seems to me these comments must be coming from salon staff, as no parent would accept their child being burnt. I think the salon owner needs to accept responsibility and apologises for the poor care shown to a child in her care, let's hope poor Sophia isn't lets scarred! I certainly won't be booking one of these parties, one child burnt is one too many!! Wallington mum
  • Score: -8

12:37pm Thu 1 May 14

PeterM says...

Wallington mum wrote:
Wow I am utterly shock at the amount of comments blaming a 6 year old child! If the salon owner had repeatedly told Sophia to stop using the straightners it might have been a good idea to actually move them, why would you leave them there based on your beliefs that no means no? It is not uncommon for little girls to want to mimic adults and even if she had decided at 6 years old she fancied doing her own hair she should not have been able to get near the straightners!!! I am a mother of 3 daughters and a qualified hairdresser I have a heat proof pouch for straightners it's a basic and cheap piece if kit! Left on a chair?? I'm sure that breaches salon health and safety and insurance. It seems to me these comments must be coming from salon staff, as no parent would accept their child being burnt. I think the salon owner needs to accept responsibility and apologises for the poor care shown to a child in her care, let's hope poor Sophia isn't lets scarred! I certainly won't be booking one of these parties, one child burnt is one too many!!
Wallington mum I am deeply offended by your suggestion that I am a member of staff. I DEMAND that you immediately withdraw that accusation. I am not and have no connection with the salon or anyone that works there.

Maybe the salon should have moved the straighteners to a 'safer' place, but even if they had, the likelihood of this disobedient child ignoring requests not to touch and still reaching for them is quite high. My children are now in their 20s, but from an early age they were taught to respect others and if an adult told them to do or don't, then they did or didn't accordingly.

As a youth leader, I come across good and bad children and I often find that the ones that are disruptive and disobedient, their parents genuinely believe that they ARE angels and are well behaved.
[quote][p][bold]Wallington mum[/bold] wrote: Wow I am utterly shock at the amount of comments blaming a 6 year old child! If the salon owner had repeatedly told Sophia to stop using the straightners it might have been a good idea to actually move them, why would you leave them there based on your beliefs that no means no? It is not uncommon for little girls to want to mimic adults and even if she had decided at 6 years old she fancied doing her own hair she should not have been able to get near the straightners!!! I am a mother of 3 daughters and a qualified hairdresser I have a heat proof pouch for straightners it's a basic and cheap piece if kit! Left on a chair?? I'm sure that breaches salon health and safety and insurance. It seems to me these comments must be coming from salon staff, as no parent would accept their child being burnt. I think the salon owner needs to accept responsibility and apologises for the poor care shown to a child in her care, let's hope poor Sophia isn't lets scarred! I certainly won't be booking one of these parties, one child burnt is one too many!![/p][/quote]Wallington mum I am deeply offended by your suggestion that I am a member of staff. I DEMAND that you immediately withdraw that accusation. I am not and have no connection with the salon or anyone that works there. Maybe the salon should have moved the straighteners to a 'safer' place, but even if they had, the likelihood of this disobedient child ignoring requests not to touch and still reaching for them is quite high. My children are now in their 20s, but from an early age they were taught to respect others and if an adult told them to do or don't, then they did or didn't accordingly. As a youth leader, I come across good and bad children and I often find that the ones that are disruptive and disobedient, their parents genuinely believe that they ARE angels and are well behaved. PeterM
  • Score: 11

12:46pm Thu 1 May 14

cheammum72 says...

" It seems to me these comments must be coming from salon staff, as no parent would accept their child being burnt."

I've never worked in a salon or have ever even heard of this salon! I work in a London office (but happen to have a day off today!)

So you're incorrect in saying that "no parent would accept their child being burnt" there are many parenting styles - those who accept mishaps happen, and those who seek to aportion blame. I happen to be in the former group, intend to stay that way and have raised two well adjusted, all in one piece young boys!!
" It seems to me these comments must be coming from salon staff, as no parent would accept their child being burnt." I've never worked in a salon or have ever even heard of this salon! I work in a London office (but happen to have a day off today!) So you're incorrect in saying that "no parent would accept their child being burnt" there are many parenting styles - those who accept mishaps happen, and those who seek to aportion blame. I happen to be in the former group, intend to stay that way and have raised two well adjusted, all in one piece young boys!! cheammum72
  • Score: 11

1:14pm Thu 1 May 14

mr muscle says...

Ide love to know what made cotton wool mum go to the news paper?
I wonder if it was all laughes when the camera man turned up and Sophie had to put on her un happy face for the camera. Such a fake picture for such a none story.
Ide love to know what made cotton wool mum go to the news paper? I wonder if it was all laughes when the camera man turned up and Sophie had to put on her un happy face for the camera. Such a fake picture for such a none story. mr muscle
  • Score: 11

1:20pm Thu 1 May 14

Wallington mum says...

Peter M
DO NOT make demands of me i am not one of the children in your youth groups. I haven't demanded anyone take down their comments, i am just expressing my opinion as is everyone else. Where did i mention you? i wasn't actually talking about you. I think far worse comments have been made eg stating its down to poor parenting? how do you know what this child home life is like. Her parents entrusted the salon providing the party to care for their child for the duration of the party, i feel they are well within their rights to be annoyed that their child was injured.

My youngest child is adopted and disabled, i am a foster carer and a school parent governor I'm just saying does this make my point more worthy or valid as you think being a youth leader makes you more special in some way??

As for the guardian scraping the barrel with this story Ive already stated I'm a mother of 3 girls aged 5,7 and 9 so this is just the type of party i would have booked them, I live very locally. Thanks to the guardian i will now go no where near that salon and I'm sure there are many other "cotton wool" mums like me that will also be thankful

CheammuM72

Some parents would accept their child being burnt, and claim its a different parenting style, really? id call it neglect. As the adoptive parent of a disabled child and a registered foster carer i think the social services would be very interested to hear from anyone who calls burns a "mishap" i don't believe in wrapping kids up in cotton wool but this child didn't fall off of a bouncy castle or scooter she was burnt when she should of been watched by the adults in charge. surely if she was being that disruptive and their were 8 adults watching some one would have seen her approaching the straighteners. If i were this child mother i would take this further, the salon owners obvious refusal to accept responsibility and apologise means other children are at risk from this happening again!
Peter M DO NOT make demands of me i am not one of the children in your youth groups. I haven't demanded anyone take down their comments, i am just expressing my opinion as is everyone else. Where did i mention you? i wasn't actually talking about you. I think far worse comments have been made eg stating its down to poor parenting? how do you know what this child home life is like. Her parents entrusted the salon providing the party to care for their child for the duration of the party, i feel they are well within their rights to be annoyed that their child was injured. My youngest child is adopted and disabled, i am a foster carer and a school parent governor I'm just saying does this make my point more worthy or valid as you think being a youth leader makes you more special in some way?? As for the guardian scraping the barrel with this story Ive already stated I'm a mother of 3 girls aged 5,7 and 9 so this is just the type of party i would have booked them, I live very locally. Thanks to the guardian i will now go no where near that salon and I'm sure there are many other "cotton wool" mums like me that will also be thankful CheammuM72 Some parents would accept their child being burnt, and claim its a different parenting style, really? id call it neglect. As the adoptive parent of a disabled child and a registered foster carer i think the social services would be very interested to hear from anyone who calls burns a "mishap" i don't believe in wrapping kids up in cotton wool but this child didn't fall off of a bouncy castle or scooter she was burnt when she should of been watched by the adults in charge. surely if she was being that disruptive and their were 8 adults watching some one would have seen her approaching the straighteners. If i were this child mother i would take this further, the salon owners obvious refusal to accept responsibility and apologise means other children are at risk from this happening again! Wallington mum
  • Score: -6

1:27pm Thu 1 May 14

PeterM says...

Wallington mum wrote:
Peter M
DO NOT make demands of me i am not one of the children in your youth groups. I haven't demanded anyone take down their comments, i am just expressing my opinion as is everyone else. Where did i mention you? i wasn't actually talking about you. I think far worse comments have been made eg stating its down to poor parenting? how do you know what this child home life is like. Her parents entrusted the salon providing the party to care for their child for the duration of the party, i feel they are well within their rights to be annoyed that their child was injured.

My youngest child is adopted and disabled, i am a foster carer and a school parent governor I'm just saying does this make my point more worthy or valid as you think being a youth leader makes you more special in some way??

As for the guardian scraping the barrel with this story Ive already stated I'm a mother of 3 girls aged 5,7 and 9 so this is just the type of party i would have booked them, I live very locally. Thanks to the guardian i will now go no where near that salon and I'm sure there are many other "cotton wool" mums like me that will also be thankful

CheammuM72

Some parents would accept their child being burnt, and claim its a different parenting style, really? id call it neglect. As the adoptive parent of a disabled child and a registered foster carer i think the social services would be very interested to hear from anyone who calls burns a "mishap" i don't believe in wrapping kids up in cotton wool but this child didn't fall off of a bouncy castle or scooter she was burnt when she should of been watched by the adults in charge. surely if she was being that disruptive and their were 8 adults watching some one would have seen her approaching the straighteners. If i were this child mother i would take this further, the salon owners obvious refusal to accept responsibility and apologise means other children are at risk from this happening again!
You said "It seems to me these comments must be coming from salon staff" therefore you have said that I must be salon staff.

I am not, and still DEMAND that you withdraw that completely unfounded accusation. You cannot go around making completely false allegations like this. That is libel and the salon could very easily sue you, and would most likely win.
[quote][p][bold]Wallington mum[/bold] wrote: Peter M DO NOT make demands of me i am not one of the children in your youth groups. I haven't demanded anyone take down their comments, i am just expressing my opinion as is everyone else. Where did i mention you? i wasn't actually talking about you. I think far worse comments have been made eg stating its down to poor parenting? how do you know what this child home life is like. Her parents entrusted the salon providing the party to care for their child for the duration of the party, i feel they are well within their rights to be annoyed that their child was injured. My youngest child is adopted and disabled, i am a foster carer and a school parent governor I'm just saying does this make my point more worthy or valid as you think being a youth leader makes you more special in some way?? As for the guardian scraping the barrel with this story Ive already stated I'm a mother of 3 girls aged 5,7 and 9 so this is just the type of party i would have booked them, I live very locally. Thanks to the guardian i will now go no where near that salon and I'm sure there are many other "cotton wool" mums like me that will also be thankful CheammuM72 Some parents would accept their child being burnt, and claim its a different parenting style, really? id call it neglect. As the adoptive parent of a disabled child and a registered foster carer i think the social services would be very interested to hear from anyone who calls burns a "mishap" i don't believe in wrapping kids up in cotton wool but this child didn't fall off of a bouncy castle or scooter she was burnt when she should of been watched by the adults in charge. surely if she was being that disruptive and their were 8 adults watching some one would have seen her approaching the straighteners. If i were this child mother i would take this further, the salon owners obvious refusal to accept responsibility and apologise means other children are at risk from this happening again![/p][/quote]You said "It seems to me these comments must be coming from salon staff" therefore you have said that I must be salon staff. I am not, and still DEMAND that you withdraw that completely unfounded accusation. You cannot go around making completely false allegations like this. That is libel and the salon could very easily sue you, and would most likely win. PeterM
  • Score: 5

1:33pm Thu 1 May 14

cheammum72 says...

Golly, do pass my details on to social services - I'm sure they'd be really interested in following up on the dreadful parent who calls a burn a "mishap"!

Pity you have taken the stance of dishing out appalling insults to those who hold a different opinion from you, those who you know absolutely nothing about - you really have moved this on from an interesting debate, which is a real shame.
Golly, do pass my details on to social services - I'm sure they'd be really interested in following up on the dreadful parent who calls a burn a "mishap"! Pity you have taken the stance of dishing out appalling insults to those who hold a different opinion from you, those who you know absolutely nothing about - you really have moved this on from an interesting debate, which is a real shame. cheammum72
  • Score: 9

1:38pm Thu 1 May 14

mr muscle says...

I love the way they have to zoom in on the second picture to make sure people can actually see it! My lad fell of his bike and grazed half his face! Its called growing up!
I love the way they have to zoom in on the second picture to make sure people can actually see it! My lad fell of his bike and grazed half his face! Its called growing up! mr muscle
  • Score: 11

1:43pm Thu 1 May 14

Sutton Mum says...

I'm wondering how she got the burn that shape - anyone who has ever burned themselves on straighteners knows that they leave a "v" shaped burn. Odd.
I'm wondering how she got the burn that shape - anyone who has ever burned themselves on straighteners knows that they leave a "v" shaped burn. Odd. Sutton Mum
  • Score: 7

1:51pm Thu 1 May 14

Wallington mum says...

Cheammum72

I wasn't calling you a dreadful parent, i have 3 children who i am sure at some point may touch the oven or a hot tap, accidents happen. When your children are out of the house and in the care of someone else i don't think you can just label it as "different parenting styles" If your child is burnt. This lady is running a business and should be more vigilant. If that child had gone to school on Monday and her mother had not noticed the burn the school would have contacted the social services to get to the bottom of it, why should a salon owner be treated any different just because she claims she told the girl no?

Im glad your getting my point, people shouldn't be dishing out insults to those they know nothing about "like her parents" in the thread it has been suggested they wrap her in cotton wool, don't teach her that no means no, that shes a little princess, i mean what a comment surely all 6 year old girls are princesses to their parents. I am just pleased i have been made aware of it so i can keep my daughters away from that salon their safety is the most important thing to me.
Cheammum72 I wasn't calling you a dreadful parent, i have 3 children who i am sure at some point may touch the oven or a hot tap, accidents happen. When your children are out of the house and in the care of someone else i don't think you can just label it as "different parenting styles" If your child is burnt. This lady is running a business and should be more vigilant. If that child had gone to school on Monday and her mother had not noticed the burn the school would have contacted the social services to get to the bottom of it, why should a salon owner be treated any different just because she claims she told the girl no? Im glad your getting my point, people shouldn't be dishing out insults to those they know nothing about "like her parents" in the thread it has been suggested they wrap her in cotton wool, don't teach her that no means no, that shes a little princess, i mean what a comment surely all 6 year old girls are princesses to their parents. I am just pleased i have been made aware of it so i can keep my daughters away from that salon their safety is the most important thing to me. Wallington mum
  • Score: -5

2:02pm Thu 1 May 14

Wallington mum says...

Peter M

Again i repeat you were not the only one who had commented, i was talking about another comment from suttonmum stating that :

Maybe little Sophia's parents need to teach their daughter that "no" means "no", rather than maliciously nipping off to the local paper to try to damage a local business.

Accidents happen, but if a child is told not to do something for fear of something happening, they need to listen and respect what they are told.

Can these parents really not see that their daughter was burned because of their failure to teach her who is in charge?

whats libel? a child did get burnt in her care we know that much, i also know if the child was being watched it wouldn't have happened!!

you seem really interested in this story, it took you 4 hours to come up with a comment saying they had to zoom in lol are you really that pathetic?

suttonmum are you a hairdresser? you seem to know a lot about the burn shape that straighteners leave, does this happen often? would it not be possible that a small child's wrist could go inside the straighteners? i think so thus leaving a burn that shape
Peter M Again i repeat you were not the only one who had commented, i was talking about another comment from suttonmum stating that : Maybe little Sophia's parents need to teach their daughter that "no" means "no", rather than maliciously nipping off to the local paper to try to damage a local business. Accidents happen, but if a child is told not to do something for fear of something happening, they need to listen and respect what they are told. Can these parents really not see that their daughter was burned because of their failure to teach her who is in charge? whats libel? a child did get burnt in her care we know that much, i also know if the child was being watched it wouldn't have happened!! you seem really interested in this story, it took you 4 hours to come up with a comment saying they had to zoom in lol are you really that pathetic? suttonmum are you a hairdresser? you seem to know a lot about the burn shape that straighteners leave, does this happen often? would it not be possible that a small child's wrist could go inside the straighteners? i think so thus leaving a burn that shape Wallington mum
  • Score: -8

2:15pm Thu 1 May 14

PeterM says...

Wallington mum, your accusation was that those commenting must be employees of the salon, it did not single out anyone in particular and therefore I was included in that. I am still waiting for you to withdraw that remark about me and apologise for saying that about me.

As for libel, you have said in print, albeit on the internet, that these comments have come from salon staff, implying that the salon had put them up to it. That is libel because I for one am not am employee or have any connection with them. I would suggest that you withdraw that statement, because if the salon was that was inclined, and I'm not suggesting that they are, they could sue you for suggesting that these comments have come from their employees.
Wallington mum, your accusation was that those commenting must be employees of the salon, it did not single out anyone in particular and therefore I was included in that. I am still waiting for you to withdraw that remark about me and apologise for saying that about me. As for libel, you have said in print, albeit on the internet, that these comments have come from salon staff, implying that the salon had put them up to it. That is libel because I for one am not am employee or have any connection with them. I would suggest that you withdraw that statement, because if the salon was that was inclined, and I'm not suggesting that they are, they could sue you for suggesting that these comments have come from their employees. PeterM
  • Score: 6

2:20pm Thu 1 May 14

mr muscle says...

Wallington mum wrote:
Peter M Again i repeat you were not the only one who had commented, i was talking about another comment from suttonmum stating that : Maybe little Sophia's parents need to teach their daughter that "no" means "no", rather than maliciously nipping off to the local paper to try to damage a local business. Accidents happen, but if a child is told not to do something for fear of something happening, they need to listen and respect what they are told. Can these parents really not see that their daughter was burned because of their failure to teach her who is in charge? whats libel? a child did get burnt in her care we know that much, i also know if the child was being watched it wouldn't have happened!! you seem really interested in this story, it took you 4 hours to come up with a comment saying they had to zoom in lol are you really that pathetic? suttonmum are you a hairdresser? you seem to know a lot about the burn shape that straighteners leave, does this happen often? would it not be possible that a small child's wrist could go inside the straighteners? i think so thus leaving a burn that shape
This whole story is pathetic!
[quote][p][bold]Wallington mum[/bold] wrote: Peter M Again i repeat you were not the only one who had commented, i was talking about another comment from suttonmum stating that : Maybe little Sophia's parents need to teach their daughter that "no" means "no", rather than maliciously nipping off to the local paper to try to damage a local business. Accidents happen, but if a child is told not to do something for fear of something happening, they need to listen and respect what they are told. Can these parents really not see that their daughter was burned because of their failure to teach her who is in charge? whats libel? a child did get burnt in her care we know that much, i also know if the child was being watched it wouldn't have happened!! you seem really interested in this story, it took you 4 hours to come up with a comment saying they had to zoom in lol are you really that pathetic? suttonmum are you a hairdresser? you seem to know a lot about the burn shape that straighteners leave, does this happen often? would it not be possible that a small child's wrist could go inside the straighteners? i think so thus leaving a burn that shape[/p][/quote]This whole story is pathetic! mr muscle
  • Score: 4

2:27pm Thu 1 May 14

theresa7475 says...

Just to clarify, I dont work in the salon!!!!!!!!!!!
I infact work in a Prep School so know only to well how unruley some kids can be! My daughter has been to wonderful parties here, so much so I've booked one for this year!
And I totally object to the comment that its "tarty" They dont use make-up. Its just nails painted and hair styled. No different than what any mother of a girl would do at home!
Just to clarify, I dont work in the salon!!!!!!!!!!! I infact work in a Prep School so know only to well how unruley some kids can be! My daughter has been to wonderful parties here, so much so I've booked one for this year! And I totally object to the comment that its "tarty" They dont use make-up. Its just nails painted and hair styled. No different than what any mother of a girl would do at home! theresa7475
  • Score: 9

2:31pm Thu 1 May 14

Wallington mum says...

I said it seems to me, i did not say this is definitely 100% coming from the salon owner or staff. I do believe particularly regarding the internet i am still in this great country entitled to freedom of speech? If the owner sees fit to sue me for my opinion then OK. Am i to assume that this child's parents could sue most people commenting on this for suggesting that they are bad parents and it was their fault their daughter got burnt, oh dear this could get silly.

I as a mother of 3 living 2 minutes away from the salon just wanted to put my view across that this child was obviously not watched as she would no have been burnt, i have no desire to sit on here arguing with those who do not share my opinion, my opinion is just that and we are all entitled to our own thoughts.

It did not single anyone out because i didn't want this to get petty but it seems that unfortunately that has been unavoidable. I have told you that it was not aimed at your comment but the comment someone else made, so no apology or withdrawal is needed or will be made
I said it seems to me, i did not say this is definitely 100% coming from the salon owner or staff. I do believe particularly regarding the internet i am still in this great country entitled to freedom of speech? If the owner sees fit to sue me for my opinion then OK. Am i to assume that this child's parents could sue most people commenting on this for suggesting that they are bad parents and it was their fault their daughter got burnt, oh dear this could get silly. I as a mother of 3 living 2 minutes away from the salon just wanted to put my view across that this child was obviously not watched as she would no have been burnt, i have no desire to sit on here arguing with those who do not share my opinion, my opinion is just that and we are all entitled to our own thoughts. It did not single anyone out because i didn't want this to get petty but it seems that unfortunately that has been unavoidable. I have told you that it was not aimed at your comment but the comment someone else made, so no apology or withdrawal is needed or will be made Wallington mum
  • Score: -6

2:41pm Thu 1 May 14

PeterM says...

Wallington mum wrote:
I said it seems to me, i did not say this is definitely 100% coming from the salon owner or staff. I do believe particularly regarding the internet i am still in this great country entitled to freedom of speech? If the owner sees fit to sue me for my opinion then OK. Am i to assume that this child's parents could sue most people commenting on this for suggesting that they are bad parents and it was their fault their daughter got burnt, oh dear this could get silly.

I as a mother of 3 living 2 minutes away from the salon just wanted to put my view across that this child was obviously not watched as she would no have been burnt, i have no desire to sit on here arguing with those who do not share my opinion, my opinion is just that and we are all entitled to our own thoughts.

It did not single anyone out because i didn't want this to get petty but it seems that unfortunately that has been unavoidable. I have told you that it was not aimed at your comment but the comment someone else made, so no apology or withdrawal is needed or will be made
I'll repeat you said "It seems to me these comments must be coming from salon staff" and as I said before, because you did not single out any one in particular this false accusation was made against all those commenting.

Yes, Sophie's parents could sue the salon and they MAY have a case, but I am not talking about that. You have accused me of being something that I am not and I am still awaiting your acknowledgement that I do not work for the salon or have anything to do with it, and your apology for saying that I did. If I accused you of being something that you weren't, you'd be annoyed and so am I.

Yes we have freedom of speech in this country, but you have to be truthful in what you say. You cannot simply say that MR X is a thief/rapist/paedoph
ile unless you have the proof to back that up. I doubt that the salon would bother to take you to court, but if they did, they would have a pretty strong case.

Apology and acknowledgement that you were wrong still awaited.
[quote][p][bold]Wallington mum[/bold] wrote: I said it seems to me, i did not say this is definitely 100% coming from the salon owner or staff. I do believe particularly regarding the internet i am still in this great country entitled to freedom of speech? If the owner sees fit to sue me for my opinion then OK. Am i to assume that this child's parents could sue most people commenting on this for suggesting that they are bad parents and it was their fault their daughter got burnt, oh dear this could get silly. I as a mother of 3 living 2 minutes away from the salon just wanted to put my view across that this child was obviously not watched as she would no have been burnt, i have no desire to sit on here arguing with those who do not share my opinion, my opinion is just that and we are all entitled to our own thoughts. It did not single anyone out because i didn't want this to get petty but it seems that unfortunately that has been unavoidable. I have told you that it was not aimed at your comment but the comment someone else made, so no apology or withdrawal is needed or will be made[/p][/quote]I'll repeat you said "It seems to me these comments must be coming from salon staff" and as I said before, because you did not single out any one in particular this false accusation was made against all those commenting. Yes, Sophie's parents could sue the salon and they MAY have a case, but I am not talking about that. You have accused me of being something that I am not and I am still awaiting your acknowledgement that I do not work for the salon or have anything to do with it, and your apology for saying that I did. If I accused you of being something that you weren't, you'd be annoyed and so am I. Yes we have freedom of speech in this country, but you have to be truthful in what you say. You cannot simply say that MR X is a thief/rapist/paedoph ile unless you have the proof to back that up. I doubt that the salon would bother to take you to court, but if they did, they would have a pretty strong case. Apology and acknowledgement that you were wrong still awaited. PeterM
  • Score: 6

2:44pm Thu 1 May 14

mr muscle says...

Wally mum can I double check! Have you got 3 kids??
Wally mum can I double check! Have you got 3 kids?? mr muscle
  • Score: 4

2:55pm Thu 1 May 14

cheammum72 says...

Mr Muscle!!! That was a bit cheeky!!!
Mr Muscle!!! That was a bit cheeky!!! cheammum72
  • Score: 5

3:04pm Thu 1 May 14

mr muscle says...

Wally mum you wont believe this !!!!

http://m.bbc.co.uk/n
ews/health-26014708
Wally mum you wont believe this !!!! http://m.bbc.co.uk/n ews/health-26014708 mr muscle
  • Score: 1

3:17pm Thu 1 May 14

Wallington mum says...

Haha yes mr muscle i do, how did you guess??

mr muscle have you got muscles? lol

i cant go to that link and cant establish what story you are referring to by the front page of the bbc news page
Haha yes mr muscle i do, how did you guess?? mr muscle have you got muscles? lol i cant go to that link and cant establish what story you are referring to by the front page of the bbc news page Wallington mum
  • Score: 0

3:27pm Thu 1 May 14

Sophia's mum says...

I don't and won't partake in a slagging match here. For those of you that have left derogatory comments claiming bad parenting, lets just clear something up... I also work with children and currently have 16 under my care, therefore I am fully aware that some children have difficulty accepting that no means no. I am not one of those mothers that are naive enough to think my child is always in the right. Did you all read that properly, I said CHILD! She is a 6 year old little girl who was attending a birthday party. I think some of you are missing the point here! How many of you are of the view, (especially you Peter as you claim to work work with children) that it is safe to leave HOT items where children can reach them?!
As for suing the shop, yes I could and would be well within my rights! It is not my intention to do this as I'm not after anything!
I would like to see how many of you really would have been happy if it was your child. Oh well... Our child has been burnt. Suppose that'll teach her to accept no means no?! Is that your view??? If so, you're the ones that should be questioning your parenting and teaching skills!
I don't and won't partake in a slagging match here. For those of you that have left derogatory comments claiming bad parenting, lets just clear something up... I also work with children and currently have 16 under my care, therefore I am fully aware that some children have difficulty accepting that no means no. I am not one of those mothers that are naive enough to think my child is always in the right. Did you all read that properly, I said CHILD! She is a 6 year old little girl who was attending a birthday party. I think some of you are missing the point here! How many of you are of the view, (especially you Peter as you claim to work work with children) that it is safe to leave HOT items where children can reach them?! As for suing the shop, yes I could and would be well within my rights! It is not my intention to do this as I'm not after anything! I would like to see how many of you really would have been happy if it was your child. Oh well... Our child has been burnt. Suppose that'll teach her to accept no means no?! Is that your view??? If so, you're the ones that should be questioning your parenting and teaching skills! Sophia's mum
  • Score: 6

3:43pm Thu 1 May 14

mr muscle says...

Wally mum I have huge muscles! Mr Muscle is the brand you can trust to tackle dirt and grime in all areas but it cant stop cheeky inquisitive 6 year olds in hair salons! Will you just admit 6 year olds will occasionally get hurt accidently and thats life!
Wally mum I have huge muscles! Mr Muscle is the brand you can trust to tackle dirt and grime in all areas but it cant stop cheeky inquisitive 6 year olds in hair salons! Will you just admit 6 year olds will occasionally get hurt accidently and thats life! mr muscle
  • Score: 1

3:46pm Thu 1 May 14

Craft107 says...

Sophia's mum wrote:
I don't and won't partake in a slagging match here. For those of you that have left derogatory comments claiming bad parenting, lets just clear something up... I also work with children and currently have 16 under my care, therefore I am fully aware that some children have difficulty accepting that no means no. I am not one of those mothers that are naive enough to think my child is always in the right. Did you all read that properly, I said CHILD! She is a 6 year old little girl who was attending a birthday party. I think some of you are missing the point here! How many of you are of the view, (especially you Peter as you claim to work work with children) that it is safe to leave HOT items where children can reach them?! As for suing the shop, yes I could and would be well within my rights! It is not my intention to do this as I'm not after anything! I would like to see how many of you really would have been happy if it was your child. Oh well... Our child has been burnt. Suppose that'll teach her to accept no means no?! Is that your view??? If so, you're the ones that should be questioning your parenting and teaching skills!
Sophia's mum

What was your actual intention when you took the time to contact The Sutton Guardian regarding the story of your daughter suffering a burn at the hair salon?

It can only be to discredit the salon in some way?

Would you allow your daughter to attend a further party of this 'type'?

Did your daughter need to take further time off school to accomodate the photography etc? I sincerely hope this is not the case and they accomodated this before or after school hours.

If the salon is to be believed they warned your daughter serveral times, (obviouSLy we don't know the reality of this claim), that should have been enough. After all, when you boil a kettle, or cook, I presume at the age of 6 that if your daughter wanted to touch, she would be tall enough too? Therefore, she understands that touching hot things will hurt!

Again, I believe that this is an unsuitable environment for children to have a party, presumambly other options such as a farm or organised bouncy castle parties at venues, have trained first aiders? Why would you feel that trained hairdressers would be trained to deal with young children? They are on a money making venture and parents need to decided, where is suitable for their children to go, not after the event go to the papers and cause a scene.
[quote][p][bold]Sophia's mum[/bold] wrote: I don't and won't partake in a slagging match here. For those of you that have left derogatory comments claiming bad parenting, lets just clear something up... I also work with children and currently have 16 under my care, therefore I am fully aware that some children have difficulty accepting that no means no. I am not one of those mothers that are naive enough to think my child is always in the right. Did you all read that properly, I said CHILD! She is a 6 year old little girl who was attending a birthday party. I think some of you are missing the point here! How many of you are of the view, (especially you Peter as you claim to work work with children) that it is safe to leave HOT items where children can reach them?! As for suing the shop, yes I could and would be well within my rights! It is not my intention to do this as I'm not after anything! I would like to see how many of you really would have been happy if it was your child. Oh well... Our child has been burnt. Suppose that'll teach her to accept no means no?! Is that your view??? If so, you're the ones that should be questioning your parenting and teaching skills![/p][/quote]Sophia's mum What was your actual intention when you took the time to contact The Sutton Guardian regarding the story of your daughter suffering a burn at the hair salon? It can only be to discredit the salon in some way? Would you allow your daughter to attend a further party of this 'type'? Did your daughter need to take further time off school to accomodate the photography etc? I sincerely hope this is not the case and they accomodated this before or after school hours. If the salon is to be believed they warned your daughter serveral times, (obviouSLy we don't know the reality of this claim), that should have been enough. After all, when you boil a kettle, or cook, I presume at the age of 6 that if your daughter wanted to touch, she would be tall enough too? Therefore, she understands that touching hot things will hurt! Again, I believe that this is an unsuitable environment for children to have a party, presumambly other options such as a farm or organised bouncy castle parties at venues, have trained first aiders? Why would you feel that trained hairdressers would be trained to deal with young children? They are on a money making venture and parents need to decided, where is suitable for their children to go, not after the event go to the papers and cause a scene. Craft107
  • Score: 4

4:09pm Thu 1 May 14

PeterM says...

I agree that this article has descended into an argument between a number of people with one person refusing to apologise for making an untrue statement and another (myself) demanding that they do. I apologise that I have been a participant in that, but I would like to clarify something.

Sophia's Mum, I do not work with children, I am a volunteer Youth Leader, fully trained and certificated, but an unpaid volunteer. I am also a parent of two 20+ yr olds, and an uncle to a dozen nieces and nephews. If we were to do something similar to the pamper party, although our club would more likely be involved with cooking, or rock climbing, we would conduct a proper risk assessment to minimise any 'accidents'. However, no matter what precautions that you take and even if you have a ratio of 1:1, if a child ignores requests not to do something, then the inevitable can happen.

I have children in my club that are 6 that listen and adhere to requests not to do things, yet I also have children that are 10 that if you say don't pick that log out of the fire (we had been toasted marshmallows on a bonfire) then they will do just that and risk getting burnt.

I'm sorry to hear that Sophia was injured, but don't quite understand the reason that you went to the press.
I agree that this article has descended into an argument between a number of people with one person refusing to apologise for making an untrue statement and another (myself) demanding that they do. I apologise that I have been a participant in that, but I would like to clarify something. Sophia's Mum, I do not work with children, I am a volunteer Youth Leader, fully trained and certificated, but an unpaid volunteer. I am also a parent of two 20+ yr olds, and an uncle to a dozen nieces and nephews. If we were to do something similar to the pamper party, although our club would more likely be involved with cooking, or rock climbing, we would conduct a proper risk assessment to minimise any 'accidents'. However, no matter what precautions that you take and even if you have a ratio of 1:1, if a child ignores requests not to do something, then the inevitable can happen. I have children in my club that are 6 that listen and adhere to requests not to do things, yet I also have children that are 10 that if you say don't pick that log out of the fire (we had been toasted marshmallows on a bonfire) then they will do just that and risk getting burnt. I'm sorry to hear that Sophia was injured, but don't quite understand the reason that you went to the press. PeterM
  • Score: 5

4:20pm Thu 1 May 14

Wallington mum says...

Sophia's mum

I'm assuming your intention of going to the guardian was to raise awareness of the lack of care this salon shows to children attending parties.

Despite the differing views here as it seems i am the only one of the opinion that the straighteners should never have been left unattended on a chair where 6 years old's can reach them, I will not be sending my girls to this salon for a party so job done.

i hope Sophia's arm is healing well
Sophia's mum I'm assuming your intention of going to the guardian was to raise awareness of the lack of care this salon shows to children attending parties. Despite the differing views here as it seems i am the only one of the opinion that the straighteners should never have been left unattended on a chair where 6 years old's can reach them, I will not be sending my girls to this salon for a party so job done. i hope Sophia's arm is healing well Wallington mum
  • Score: 0

4:29pm Thu 1 May 14

Wallington mum says...

mr muscle lol

obviously 6 year old's have accidents and get hurt, i have one here who requires particular attention.

My children have had lots of accidents, one suffered a broken arm in kidspace tripping on a foam ball. i understood this was an accident and we still regularly go there, i haven't wrapped them up in cotton wool because of it.

A heat proof sleeve could have prevented an inquisitive 6 year old and prevented this accident and hopefully the salon will use them in the future they only cost about £5
mr muscle lol obviously 6 year old's have accidents and get hurt, i have one here who requires particular attention. My children have had lots of accidents, one suffered a broken arm in kidspace tripping on a foam ball. i understood this was an accident and we still regularly go there, i haven't wrapped them up in cotton wool because of it. A heat proof sleeve could have prevented an inquisitive 6 year old and prevented this accident and hopefully the salon will use them in the future they only cost about £5 Wallington mum
  • Score: 1

6:37pm Thu 1 May 14

StacieFid says...

My daughter has attended many parties over the 3 years Degenises have been holding them - the girls love them and all the staff are wonderful and they are very cauious and would even go to say they are slightly over cauious! Its a bit odd to read that only 4 parents stayed when the party was for a child so young - I, along with other mums stay at every one.
My daughter is now 8 had just her birthday party there too this weekend, ALL the children thoroughly enjoyed it and behaved very sensibly as they always do - I cannot give enough praise to the Salon and their staff for making my daughers 8th birthday party such a truly enjoyable event x
If your daughters says the straightners were on the chair, and given they were very hot , how comes the chair was not damaged ? Stacie
My daughter has attended many parties over the 3 years Degenises have been holding them - the girls love them and all the staff are wonderful and they are very cauious and would even go to say they are slightly over cauious! Its a bit odd to read that only 4 parents stayed when the party was for a child so young - I, along with other mums stay at every one. My daughter is now 8 had just her birthday party there too this weekend, ALL the children thoroughly enjoyed it and behaved very sensibly as they always do - I cannot give enough praise to the Salon and their staff for making my daughers 8th birthday party such a truly enjoyable event x If your daughters says the straightners were on the chair, and given they were very hot , how comes the chair was not damaged ? Stacie StacieFid
  • Score: 10

8:23pm Thu 1 May 14

Jasonpc says...

Quote...
Maria Digenis, manager of Degenis's, said: "We told the child three times but she kept going over to them.

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Quote...
Sophia's mum says...

Maybe I ought to clarify something here. Sophia was reaching over to get her hair clip that had been taken out by one of the hairdressers. She didn't get burnt from misbehaving or as a consequence of repeatedly trying to play with the straighteners. The straighteners had been left on a chair!!!!!

-------

I could be wrong but it seems that most comments are suggesting that she was playing with the straighteners.

"Sophia was reaching over to get her hair clip that had been taken out by one of the hairdressers."

She was NOT playing with the hair straighteners.

If she had listen to what she was told in the first place then no one would have been hurt.

Thinking of being told to do or not do something when told, would any child for example...

walk in to the road?

play near a pond?

play near a cooker while it is in use?

or anything else you care to think of.

This is just a nasty accident that happened due to a child not listening to what was said to them.

All children and adults learn something new every day of our lives. This will be a learning curve for anyone (child or adult) that does and in some case will do something that they were told not to.

I wish to state that I do not work for the salon, the paper or any other work environment with children. My partner has children and we also face challenges on occasion with them not doing as they are told.
Quote... Maria Digenis, manager of Degenis's, said: "We told the child three times but she kept going over to them. ---- Quote... Sophia's mum says... Maybe I ought to clarify something here. Sophia was reaching over to get her hair clip that had been taken out by one of the hairdressers. She didn't get burnt from misbehaving or as a consequence of repeatedly trying to play with the straighteners. The straighteners had been left on a chair!!!!! ------- I could be wrong but it seems that most comments are suggesting that she was playing with the straighteners. "Sophia was reaching over to get her hair clip that had been taken out by one of the hairdressers." She was NOT playing with the hair straighteners. If she had listen to what she was told in the first place then no one would have been hurt. Thinking of being told to do or not do something when told, would any child for example... walk in to the road? play near a pond? play near a cooker while it is in use? or anything else you care to think of. This is just a nasty accident that happened due to a child not listening to what was said to them. All children and adults learn something new every day of our lives. This will be a learning curve for anyone (child or adult) that does and in some case will do something that they were told not to. I wish to state that I do not work for the salon, the paper or any other work environment with children. My partner has children and we also face challenges on occasion with them not doing as they are told. Jasonpc
  • Score: 9

10:23pm Thu 1 May 14

samwills says...

It appears from the suggestions on here that if a child is told no means no then they deserve to face the consequence of their actions. I assume therefore if a child is told not to go near a swimming pool there is no reason to have health and safetly rules in place to ensure doors are locked when closed or have a lifeguard on duty. After all if they drown it would be acceptable as they were told not to go near water, OR maybe , we no longer worry about stair gates and just tell our toddlers not to climb stairs, even better lets not take our young children to school any more. Just tell them 3 times not to talk to strangers and if harm comes to them then we can defend the fact the oh so awful, disobedient, terrible child had been told 3 times so accept the consequence. OUTRAGEOUS. Yes we tell our children to educate them but they are still children so we also ensure safe measures are put in place to minimise any risk of harm coming to a child. The fact this child was able to physically be able to reach straighteners which are a hazard shows me that good health and safety measures were not put in place. Did the company maybe make a small error that resulted in an accident on an innocent child that they regret. Yes probably but then maybe it is them that should face the consequence not the innocent child being blamed on here.
It appears from the suggestions on here that if a child is told no means no then they deserve to face the consequence of their actions. I assume therefore if a child is told not to go near a swimming pool there is no reason to have health and safetly rules in place to ensure doors are locked when closed or have a lifeguard on duty. After all if they drown it would be acceptable as they were told not to go near water, OR maybe , we no longer worry about stair gates and just tell our toddlers not to climb stairs, even better lets not take our young children to school any more. Just tell them 3 times not to talk to strangers and if harm comes to them then we can defend the fact the oh so awful, disobedient, terrible child had been told 3 times so accept the consequence. OUTRAGEOUS. Yes we tell our children to educate them but they are still children so we also ensure safe measures are put in place to minimise any risk of harm coming to a child. The fact this child was able to physically be able to reach straighteners which are a hazard shows me that good health and safety measures were not put in place. Did the company maybe make a small error that resulted in an accident on an innocent child that they regret. Yes probably but then maybe it is them that should face the consequence not the innocent child being blamed on here. samwills
  • Score: -6

10:49pm Thu 1 May 14

mrswallington66 says...

I am amazed the guardian has raised this. There is no doubt the little girl was hurt. Concerned if that bad she wasn't taken to walk in centre for assessment.accidents happen and this happened where there were other adults around not just the staff . It is always a difficult decision when leaving a young child at a party. I have been to parties there and plan to have a party later in the year .
I am amazed the guardian has raised this. There is no doubt the little girl was hurt. Concerned if that bad she wasn't taken to walk in centre for assessment.accidents happen and this happened where there were other adults around not just the staff . It is always a difficult decision when leaving a young child at a party. I have been to parties there and plan to have a party later in the year . mrswallington66
  • Score: 7

10:53am Fri 2 May 14

1978_ leigh says...

It darn right disgusting that you people can BLAME a 6 year old child and then if that's not bad enough you BLAME the child's mothers parenting..!! How can you judge a family you know NOTHING ABOUT?? The matter of this story is there was an accident that could of been prevented if the staff was caring and supervising them children properly..! What sort of idiot leaves a hot use pair of hair straighteners on a chair to cool down knowing full well there was children, I'm sorry but EVERY SALON should have safety of customers as well as children to cover there arses and clearly this wasn't the case, no matter what way you look at this it's wrong and disgusting that a salons staff can blame a 6 year old... You need to take FULL RESPONSIBILITY to this as if you was watching the child it would NEVER OF HAPPEND... No one takes there child to a part and expects that to happen! And if you actually stopped and thought about it as it was your child I bet it would be a different story.... Don't judge a family by someone else's stupid error.... An appology would of been the least they could of done but no instead there getting all there work ppl to BLAME A 6 year old and her Mother.... Sort it out as all I can say is it's luck it wasn't my child as I would be doing a lot more then going to a local paper, I would sue the company! As doing party's like that for 5 years and over it's important to make sure all kids are supervised at ALL TIMES.... That is a FACT....
It darn right disgusting that you people can BLAME a 6 year old child and then if that's not bad enough you BLAME the child's mothers parenting..!! How can you judge a family you know NOTHING ABOUT?? The matter of this story is there was an accident that could of been prevented if the staff was caring and supervising them children properly..! What sort of idiot leaves a hot use pair of hair straighteners on a chair to cool down knowing full well there was children, I'm sorry but EVERY SALON should have safety of customers as well as children to cover there arses and clearly this wasn't the case, no matter what way you look at this it's wrong and disgusting that a salons staff can blame a 6 year old... You need to take FULL RESPONSIBILITY to this as if you was watching the child it would NEVER OF HAPPEND... No one takes there child to a part and expects that to happen! And if you actually stopped and thought about it as it was your child I bet it would be a different story.... Don't judge a family by someone else's stupid error.... An appology would of been the least they could of done but no instead there getting all there work ppl to BLAME A 6 year old and her Mother.... Sort it out as all I can say is it's luck it wasn't my child as I would be doing a lot more then going to a local paper, I would sue the company! As doing party's like that for 5 years and over it's important to make sure all kids are supervised at ALL TIMES.... That is a FACT.... 1978_ leigh
  • Score: -12

11:24am Fri 2 May 14

1978_ leigh says...

Sutton Mum wrote:
I'm wondering how she got the burn that shape - anyone who has ever burned themselves on straighteners knows that they leave a "v" shaped burn. Odd.
Are you for real?? Does it matter how she was burnt and what shape the burn is?? You lot sound like a bunch of idiots to think this is acceptable on any level..!! It's not important what shape the but it is important to make sure this never EVER happens again...!! Someone needs to take responsibility for this and it's certainly not down to a 6 year old that's for sure.... If I was working with children or even looking after them I have a duty as an adult to take full responsibility for them children, if they was using hot things or dangerous they should of had someone with them hair straighteners at ALL TIMES... What ever way you look at this it's WRONG on the salons part not the child's..... FACT
[quote][p][bold]Sutton Mum[/bold] wrote: I'm wondering how she got the burn that shape - anyone who has ever burned themselves on straighteners knows that they leave a "v" shaped burn. Odd.[/p][/quote]Are you for real?? Does it matter how she was burnt and what shape the burn is?? You lot sound like a bunch of idiots to think this is acceptable on any level..!! It's not important what shape the but it is important to make sure this never EVER happens again...!! Someone needs to take responsibility for this and it's certainly not down to a 6 year old that's for sure.... If I was working with children or even looking after them I have a duty as an adult to take full responsibility for them children, if they was using hot things or dangerous they should of had someone with them hair straighteners at ALL TIMES... What ever way you look at this it's WRONG on the salons part not the child's..... FACT 1978_ leigh
  • Score: -13

11:35am Fri 2 May 14

alphabeti says...

1978_ leigh wrote:
Sutton Mum wrote:
I'm wondering how she got the burn that shape - anyone who has ever burned themselves on straighteners knows that they leave a "v" shaped burn. Odd.
Are you for real?? Does it matter how she was burnt and what shape the burn is?? You lot sound like a bunch of idiots to think this is acceptable on any level..!! It's not important what shape the but it is important to make sure this never EVER happens again...!! Someone needs to take responsibility for this and it's certainly not down to a 6 year old that's for sure.... If I was working with children or even looking after them I have a duty as an adult to take full responsibility for them children, if they was using hot things or dangerous they should of had someone with them hair straighteners at ALL TIMES... What ever way you look at this it's WRONG on the salons part not the child's..... FACT
What was the parent to child ratio? I would think a beauty salon is not the sort of place to have a party given all the chemicals, scissors, hot tongs, etc... It's a shame the little girl got hurt. I don't think she should have been there in the first place.
[quote][p][bold]1978_ leigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sutton Mum[/bold] wrote: I'm wondering how she got the burn that shape - anyone who has ever burned themselves on straighteners knows that they leave a "v" shaped burn. Odd.[/p][/quote]Are you for real?? Does it matter how she was burnt and what shape the burn is?? You lot sound like a bunch of idiots to think this is acceptable on any level..!! It's not important what shape the but it is important to make sure this never EVER happens again...!! Someone needs to take responsibility for this and it's certainly not down to a 6 year old that's for sure.... If I was working with children or even looking after them I have a duty as an adult to take full responsibility for them children, if they was using hot things or dangerous they should of had someone with them hair straighteners at ALL TIMES... What ever way you look at this it's WRONG on the salons part not the child's..... FACT[/p][/quote]What was the parent to child ratio? I would think a beauty salon is not the sort of place to have a party given all the chemicals, scissors, hot tongs, etc... It's a shame the little girl got hurt. I don't think she should have been there in the first place. alphabeti
  • Score: 1

11:42am Fri 2 May 14

1978_ leigh says...

Sutton Mum wrote:
Maybe little Sophia's parents need to teach their daughter that "no" means "no", rather than maliciously nipping off to the local paper to try to damage a local business.

Accidents happen, but if a child is told not to do something for fear of something happening, they need to listen and respect what they are told.

Can these parents really not see that their daughter was burned because of their failure to teach her who is in charge?
Sutton Mum I personally think you are rude..! Every child is bought up with the words No but sadly when there excited of with other people not all children listen so to judge Sophia's mums parenting skills is darn right rude, so you telling me your kids are perfect? They always listen to no?? They have never disobeyed you? I'll be very shocked if the answers are yes, as for blaming a 6 year old child is beyond me as she leant over to grab a clip, surely you can see that the hot hair straighteners should not on been on that chair in the first place, why couldn't the person who put them there out them out of reach? Why leave them laying there for an accident to happen such as this one? I'm shocked at the disgusting comments I'm reading on here... Clearly you all can't see the main issue here!!! As I stated in another comment it's lucky it wasn't my child as I would be going mental and I certainly wouldn't drop it as this could of been a lot worse, I just hope that poor child is bit scared through that burn.! Personally I think you should look at the whole picture and stop judging a family you know nothing about and start to realise the incapable person who is a fault is the idiot who left them on that chair in the first place..!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Sutton Mum[/bold] wrote: Maybe little Sophia's parents need to teach their daughter that "no" means "no", rather than maliciously nipping off to the local paper to try to damage a local business. Accidents happen, but if a child is told not to do something for fear of something happening, they need to listen and respect what they are told. Can these parents really not see that their daughter was burned because of their failure to teach her who is in charge?[/p][/quote]Sutton Mum I personally think you are rude..! Every child is bought up with the words No but sadly when there excited of with other people not all children listen so to judge Sophia's mums parenting skills is darn right rude, so you telling me your kids are perfect? They always listen to no?? They have never disobeyed you? I'll be very shocked if the answers are yes, as for blaming a 6 year old child is beyond me as she leant over to grab a clip, surely you can see that the hot hair straighteners should not on been on that chair in the first place, why couldn't the person who put them there out them out of reach? Why leave them laying there for an accident to happen such as this one? I'm shocked at the disgusting comments I'm reading on here... Clearly you all can't see the main issue here!!! As I stated in another comment it's lucky it wasn't my child as I would be going mental and I certainly wouldn't drop it as this could of been a lot worse, I just hope that poor child is bit scared through that burn.! Personally I think you should look at the whole picture and stop judging a family you know nothing about and start to realise the incapable person who is a fault is the idiot who left them on that chair in the first place..!!!!!! 1978_ leigh
  • Score: -10

12:23pm Fri 2 May 14

Sutton Mum says...

1978_leigh - And I think you need to take a step back, deal with your obvious anger issues and accept that as individuals we will draw our own conclusions.
1978_leigh - And I think you need to take a step back, deal with your obvious anger issues and accept that as individuals we will draw our own conclusions. Sutton Mum
  • Score: 12

1:13pm Fri 2 May 14

PeterM says...

I wasn't going to make a further comment, but something has been bugging me.

Why has Sophia's Mum had her daughter's name and photo plastered all over the internet (by going to the papers that's what happens) but remained rather inconspicuous herself? No mention of her age, occupation, marital status, the usual things that the papers like to include in a story, no photo of her with her daughter.

She seems happy to let her daughter be a potential target for bullies at school, sadly this is what happens, yet she wants to remain anonymous so that she isn't 'targeted' at the school gates.
I wasn't going to make a further comment, but something has been bugging me. Why has Sophia's Mum had her daughter's name and photo plastered all over the internet (by going to the papers that's what happens) but remained rather inconspicuous herself? No mention of her age, occupation, marital status, the usual things that the papers like to include in a story, no photo of her with her daughter. She seems happy to let her daughter be a potential target for bullies at school, sadly this is what happens, yet she wants to remain anonymous so that she isn't 'targeted' at the school gates. PeterM
  • Score: 4

5:53pm Fri 2 May 14

Sophia's mum says...

Peter. I really do question your fascination over this story?! How do you feel you can relate to this in any way? Oh yes, you volunteer your services to look after children. Does this mean you are unemployed?! Are they being watched adqequately whilst you scrape the barrell with your comments? Wouldn't want anyone to get hurt! Mind you, suppose in your eyes it would only be the child's fault anyway!

The reason I reported this incident to the news paper was to show how dangerous it is to use items such as straighteners etc and leaving them unattended when supposedly catering for children aged 5+. You think as a result of this my daughter will be bullied? That's the most ridiculous comment I've ever heard! Well, that and a few other of your comments!

My name was omitted from the news report due to the nature of my husbands business which I sometimes assist with. I I don't know where you come from but I can assure you I am not likely to be targeted at the gate. I do however thank you for your comments! They have been more entertaining than you realise!
Peter. I really do question your fascination over this story?! How do you feel you can relate to this in any way? Oh yes, you volunteer your services to look after children. Does this mean you are unemployed?! Are they being watched adqequately whilst you scrape the barrell with your comments? Wouldn't want anyone to get hurt! Mind you, suppose in your eyes it would only be the child's fault anyway! The reason I reported this incident to the news paper was to show how dangerous it is to use items such as straighteners etc and leaving them unattended when supposedly catering for children aged 5+. You think as a result of this my daughter will be bullied? That's the most ridiculous comment I've ever heard! Well, that and a few other of your comments! My name was omitted from the news report due to the nature of my husbands business which I sometimes assist with. I I don't know where you come from but I can assure you I am not likely to be targeted at the gate. I do however thank you for your comments! They have been more entertaining than you realise! Sophia's mum
  • Score: -10

6:45pm Fri 2 May 14

Batterseamum says...

Scenario: I use straightening irons. I have finished using them, and leave them on a chair to cool. Daughter reaches across the chair to to get her toy from a side table. Se gets burned by the straightening irons as she does so. Whose fault is it? I had told her several times not to go near them...Of course, I could have actually put them well out of reach, but it was easier to leave them on a chair for me...
Scenario: I use straightening irons. I have finished using them, and leave them on a chair to cool. Daughter reaches across the chair to to get her toy from a side table. Se gets burned by the straightening irons as she does so. Whose fault is it? I had told her several times not to go near them...Of course, I could have actually put them well out of reach, but it was easier to leave them on a chair for me... Batterseamum
  • Score: 1

6:47pm Fri 2 May 14

cupcake:) says...

"SEVERE BURNS"
My child was " SEVERELY BURNT".We were tranfered to a burns unit in London, the hours of my child screaming in uncontrollable pain, the nights we had to stay in hospital the weeks of my child being wrapped in bandages and talk of skin graft, the worry of how the injures would completely change all ourlives. I haven't ever felt the need to complain as all my energy was put into the recovery & now we feel truely blessed that they made an amazing recovery where other parents aren't as fortunate, some others just wish that their child had survived!
"SEVERE BURNS" My child was " SEVERELY BURNT".We were tranfered to a burns unit in London, the hours of my child screaming in uncontrollable pain, the nights we had to stay in hospital the weeks of my child being wrapped in bandages and talk of skin graft, the worry of how the injures would completely change all ourlives. I haven't ever felt the need to complain as all my energy was put into the recovery & now we feel truely blessed that they made an amazing recovery where other parents aren't as fortunate, some others just wish that their child had survived! cupcake:)
  • Score: 17

6:49pm Fri 2 May 14

1978_ leigh says...

Sutton Mum wrote:
1978_leigh - And I think you need to take a step back, deal with your obvious anger issues and accept that as individuals we will draw our own conclusions.
Personally I think YOU need to realise how rude and judgemental you are being! I'm now being judged for having anger issues?? Really ?? You don't know me and tbh I'm GLAD I don't know you as you are a rude,opinionated Judgemental IDIOT....!!!!! I Don't have anger issues I'm just stating the obvious and that is, it's down to the salon to take FULL responsibility! As for you clearly you are involved with the business or are friends etc as no one in there right mind with children would see this is a young child's fault.!!!!! Grow up and stop throwing Judgemental comments around....!!! One other thing if you not involved with them then take your kid along and let them put that child at risk cause I bet you see it differently then...!!!! You seriously think saying no always works then you need ya head testing as not every child listen and in all fairness she was leaning over to get her clip so where was the adult to STOP this happening? Why wasn't it put out of arms reach to them kids? None of you can answer that so your trying to blame a child and her mum!!! There is no reason that pair of hair straightners wasn't put away up high or somewhere safe! The only one I can think of was the person who left them there didn't use there brain... Yes we all make mistakes but admiting to them is what makes you a better person...!!! An apology is all it prob would of took for the matter to be dealt with but because your all so quick to judge a child saying she spoilt and don't know the word no is darn right disgusting in my eyes that sweetheart does not make me have an anger issue that makes me a mum who actually feels for this child and her parents being judged and slagged off because a shop was incapable to take Responsibility....!!
!!
[quote][p][bold]Sutton Mum[/bold] wrote: 1978_leigh - And I think you need to take a step back, deal with your obvious anger issues and accept that as individuals we will draw our own conclusions.[/p][/quote]Personally I think YOU need to realise how rude and judgemental you are being! I'm now being judged for having anger issues?? Really ?? You don't know me and tbh I'm GLAD I don't know you as you are a rude,opinionated Judgemental IDIOT....!!!!! I Don't have anger issues I'm just stating the obvious and that is, it's down to the salon to take FULL responsibility! As for you clearly you are involved with the business or are friends etc as no one in there right mind with children would see this is a young child's fault.!!!!! Grow up and stop throwing Judgemental comments around....!!! One other thing if you not involved with them then take your kid along and let them put that child at risk cause I bet you see it differently then...!!!! You seriously think saying no always works then you need ya head testing as not every child listen and in all fairness she was leaning over to get her clip so where was the adult to STOP this happening? Why wasn't it put out of arms reach to them kids? None of you can answer that so your trying to blame a child and her mum!!! There is no reason that pair of hair straightners wasn't put away up high or somewhere safe! The only one I can think of was the person who left them there didn't use there brain... Yes we all make mistakes but admiting to them is what makes you a better person...!!! An apology is all it prob would of took for the matter to be dealt with but because your all so quick to judge a child saying she spoilt and don't know the word no is darn right disgusting in my eyes that sweetheart does not make me have an anger issue that makes me a mum who actually feels for this child and her parents being judged and slagged off because a shop was incapable to take Responsibility....!! !! 1978_ leigh
  • Score: -8

7:45pm Fri 2 May 14

1978_ leigh says...

PeterM wrote:
I wasn't going to make a further comment, but something has been bugging me.

Why has Sophia's Mum had her daughter's name and photo plastered all over the internet (by going to the papers that's what happens) but remained rather inconspicuous herself? No mention of her age, occupation, marital status, the usual things that the papers like to include in a story, no photo of her with her daughter.

She seems happy to let her daughter be a potential target for bullies at school, sadly this is what happens, yet she wants to remain anonymous so that she isn't 'targeted' at the school gates.
Peter what has any of that got to do with this child getting burnt??? You seriously are something else..! Why does it matter if the mothers name or what her Marital status is printed in the paper.! This don't help the situation, so when you said you wasn't going to comment again personally I wouldn't of wasted your time as all you have said is irrelevant to the reason this article was printed in the first place.... Seriously you lot need to read back the rubbish you have typed and think of that poor YOUNG CHILD and not your selfish self and a business which let's face it clearly is incapable of looking after young children and there safety...!!!
[quote][p][bold]PeterM[/bold] wrote: I wasn't going to make a further comment, but something has been bugging me. Why has Sophia's Mum had her daughter's name and photo plastered all over the internet (by going to the papers that's what happens) but remained rather inconspicuous herself? No mention of her age, occupation, marital status, the usual things that the papers like to include in a story, no photo of her with her daughter. She seems happy to let her daughter be a potential target for bullies at school, sadly this is what happens, yet she wants to remain anonymous so that she isn't 'targeted' at the school gates.[/p][/quote]Peter what has any of that got to do with this child getting burnt??? You seriously are something else..! Why does it matter if the mothers name or what her Marital status is printed in the paper.! This don't help the situation, so when you said you wasn't going to comment again personally I wouldn't of wasted your time as all you have said is irrelevant to the reason this article was printed in the first place.... Seriously you lot need to read back the rubbish you have typed and think of that poor YOUNG CHILD and not your selfish self and a business which let's face it clearly is incapable of looking after young children and there safety...!!! 1978_ leigh
  • Score: -7

7:58pm Fri 2 May 14

Sophia's mum says...

cupcake:) wrote:
"SEVERE BURNS"
My child was " SEVERELY BURNT".We were tranfered to a burns unit in London, the hours of my child screaming in uncontrollable pain, the nights we had to stay in hospital the weeks of my child being wrapped in bandages and talk of skin graft, the worry of how the injures would completely change all ourlives. I haven't ever felt the need to complain as all my energy was put into the recovery & now we feel truely blessed that they made an amazing recovery where other parents aren't as fortunate, some others just wish that their child had survived!
I'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)
[quote][p][bold]cupcake:)[/bold] wrote: "SEVERE BURNS" My child was " SEVERELY BURNT".We were tranfered to a burns unit in London, the hours of my child screaming in uncontrollable pain, the nights we had to stay in hospital the weeks of my child being wrapped in bandages and talk of skin graft, the worry of how the injures would completely change all ourlives. I haven't ever felt the need to complain as all my energy was put into the recovery & now we feel truely blessed that they made an amazing recovery where other parents aren't as fortunate, some others just wish that their child had survived![/p][/quote]I'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :) Sophia's mum
  • Score: -4

10:35pm Fri 2 May 14

PeterM says...

Sophia's mum wrote:
Peter. I really do question your fascination over this story?! How do you feel you can relate to this in any way? Oh yes, you volunteer your services to look after children. Does this mean you are unemployed?! Are they being watched adqequately whilst you scrape the barrell with your comments? Wouldn't want anyone to get hurt! Mind you, suppose in your eyes it would only be the child's fault anyway!

The reason I reported this incident to the news paper was to show how dangerous it is to use items such as straighteners etc and leaving them unattended when supposedly catering for children aged 5+. You think as a result of this my daughter will be bullied? That's the most ridiculous comment I've ever heard! Well, that and a few other of your comments!

My name was omitted from the news report due to the nature of my husbands business which I sometimes assist with. I I don't know where you come from but I can assure you I am not likely to be targeted at the gate. I do however thank you for your comments! They have been more entertaining than you realise!
1. I prefer the word interested not fascinated.
2. I left school after taking four A levels and started working straight away. I am not and never have been unemployed. I volunteer because I enjoy it.
3. We have very strict adult/children ratios. At no time are children left unattended. There are always at least two adults with even one child.
4. All adults have full CRB clearance and have had Safeguarding training every three years.
5. I know what children CAN be like and whilst Sophia's close friends might not pick on her, it is highly possible that others will.
6. Your reasons for going to the press, rather than Trading Standards, which is where I would have gone, seem rather dubious and in the article actually come across as malicious.
[quote][p][bold]Sophia's mum[/bold] wrote: Peter. I really do question your fascination over this story?! How do you feel you can relate to this in any way? Oh yes, you volunteer your services to look after children. Does this mean you are unemployed?! Are they being watched adqequately whilst you scrape the barrell with your comments? Wouldn't want anyone to get hurt! Mind you, suppose in your eyes it would only be the child's fault anyway! The reason I reported this incident to the news paper was to show how dangerous it is to use items such as straighteners etc and leaving them unattended when supposedly catering for children aged 5+. You think as a result of this my daughter will be bullied? That's the most ridiculous comment I've ever heard! Well, that and a few other of your comments! My name was omitted from the news report due to the nature of my husbands business which I sometimes assist with. I I don't know where you come from but I can assure you I am not likely to be targeted at the gate. I do however thank you for your comments! They have been more entertaining than you realise![/p][/quote]1. I prefer the word interested not fascinated. 2. I left school after taking four A levels and started working straight away. I am not and never have been unemployed. I volunteer because I enjoy it. 3. We have very strict adult/children ratios. At no time are children left unattended. There are always at least two adults with even one child. 4. All adults have full CRB clearance and have had Safeguarding training every three years. 5. I know what children CAN be like and whilst Sophia's close friends might not pick on her, it is highly possible that others will. 6. Your reasons for going to the press, rather than Trading Standards, which is where I would have gone, seem rather dubious and in the article actually come across as malicious. PeterM
  • Score: 6

5:49am Sat 3 May 14

Craft107 says...

Sophia's mum wrote:
cupcake:) wrote:
"SEVERE BURNS"
My child was " SEVERELY BURNT".We were tranfered to a burns unit in London, the hours of my child screaming in uncontrollable pain, the nights we had to stay in hospital the weeks of my child being wrapped in bandages and talk of skin graft, the worry of how the injures would completely change all ourlives. I haven't ever felt the need to complain as all my energy was put into the recovery & now we feel truely blessed that they made an amazing recovery where other parents aren't as fortunate, some others just wish that their child had survived!
I'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)
'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)

No you did not write the article, but you did instruct it to be written! With a view that probably everyone would vilify the salon.....they haven't!

The reporter that wrote the article and put 'severe burn' needs to be called into question, it should have read 'a SLIGHT burn' really.

I am glad that you have found others comments 'more entertaining than you realise' and you are able to take them in a light hearted way.....I thought your next claim might be for PTSD after your child being hurt!

This is a non article, a child suffered a slight injury at an inappropriate party venue, parent doesn't want people to judge her by letting the child attend, the child by people asking why she touched the hot straighteners. The salon probably did not offer enough 'sorrow payments' by saying they would give Sophia free haircuts and treatments for life. So parent does the 'attack is the best form of defence' procedure and thinks she is going to get fully backed and everyone is going to be outraged at the treatment of her child.

Cupcake, may I add that I am truly sorry that whatever the circumstances, you, your child and family had to experience such a horrendous situation. I wish your child a speedy and complete recovery.
[quote][p][bold]Sophia's mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cupcake:)[/bold] wrote: "SEVERE BURNS" My child was " SEVERELY BURNT".We were tranfered to a burns unit in London, the hours of my child screaming in uncontrollable pain, the nights we had to stay in hospital the weeks of my child being wrapped in bandages and talk of skin graft, the worry of how the injures would completely change all ourlives. I haven't ever felt the need to complain as all my energy was put into the recovery & now we feel truely blessed that they made an amazing recovery where other parents aren't as fortunate, some others just wish that their child had survived![/p][/quote]I'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)[/p][/quote]'m so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :) No you did not write the article, but you did instruct it to be written! With a view that probably everyone would vilify the salon.....they haven't! The reporter that wrote the article and put 'severe burn' needs to be called into question, it should have read 'a SLIGHT burn' really. I am glad that you have found others comments 'more entertaining than you realise' and you are able to take them in a light hearted way.....I thought your next claim might be for PTSD after your child being hurt! This is a non article, a child suffered a slight injury at an inappropriate party venue, parent doesn't want people to judge her by letting the child attend, the child by people asking why she touched the hot straighteners. The salon probably did not offer enough 'sorrow payments' by saying they would give Sophia free haircuts and treatments for life. So parent does the 'attack is the best form of defence' procedure and thinks she is going to get fully backed and everyone is going to be outraged at the treatment of her child. Cupcake, may I add that I am truly sorry that whatever the circumstances, you, your child and family had to experience such a horrendous situation. I wish your child a speedy and complete recovery. Craft107
  • Score: 12

12:11pm Sat 3 May 14

1978_ leigh says...

Craft107 wrote:
Sophia's mum wrote:
cupcake:) wrote:
"SEVERE BURNS"
My child was " SEVERELY BURNT".We were tranfered to a burns unit in London, the hours of my child screaming in uncontrollable pain, the nights we had to stay in hospital the weeks of my child being wrapped in bandages and talk of skin graft, the worry of how the injures would completely change all ourlives. I haven't ever felt the need to complain as all my energy was put into the recovery & now we feel truely blessed that they made an amazing recovery where other parents aren't as fortunate, some others just wish that their child had survived!
I'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)
'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)

No you did not write the article, but you did instruct it to be written! With a view that probably everyone would vilify the salon.....they haven't!

The reporter that wrote the article and put 'severe burn' needs to be called into question, it should have read 'a SLIGHT burn' really.

I am glad that you have found others comments 'more entertaining than you realise' and you are able to take them in a light hearted way.....I thought your next claim might be for PTSD after your child being hurt!

This is a non article, a child suffered a slight injury at an inappropriate party venue, parent doesn't want people to judge her by letting the child attend, the child by people asking why she touched the hot straighteners. The salon probably did not offer enough 'sorrow payments' by saying they would give Sophia free haircuts and treatments for life. So parent does the 'attack is the best form of defence' procedure and thinks she is going to get fully backed and everyone is going to be outraged at the treatment of her child.

Cupcake, may I add that I am truly sorry that whatever the circumstances, you, your child and family had to experience such a horrendous situation. I wish your child a speedy and complete recovery.
Are you for real?? Personally I very much doubt if I was Sophia mum would I ever set foot in that poor excuse of a shop again..!! This is not about what ppl can get or not get, it's about an accident that should NEVER of happened...I can't believe the pathetic comments I'm reading...!

All I can say is SHAME on you as clearly you can't or won't see the picture here.! Why would anyone want free hair cuts etc for life! I would be to scared for my child to think the staff there are incapable of looking out for children's safety! Personally I'm not going to waste my time argueing with idiotic judgemental fools..... Just funny that ppl kick off on here when someone says something against the shop etc but yet you all feel the need to slag this poor 6 year old and her mother off!! And you all wonder why we think you work there or are good mates...!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Craft107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sophia's mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cupcake:)[/bold] wrote: "SEVERE BURNS" My child was " SEVERELY BURNT".We were tranfered to a burns unit in London, the hours of my child screaming in uncontrollable pain, the nights we had to stay in hospital the weeks of my child being wrapped in bandages and talk of skin graft, the worry of how the injures would completely change all ourlives. I haven't ever felt the need to complain as all my energy was put into the recovery & now we feel truely blessed that they made an amazing recovery where other parents aren't as fortunate, some others just wish that their child had survived![/p][/quote]I'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)[/p][/quote]'m so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :) No you did not write the article, but you did instruct it to be written! With a view that probably everyone would vilify the salon.....they haven't! The reporter that wrote the article and put 'severe burn' needs to be called into question, it should have read 'a SLIGHT burn' really. I am glad that you have found others comments 'more entertaining than you realise' and you are able to take them in a light hearted way.....I thought your next claim might be for PTSD after your child being hurt! This is a non article, a child suffered a slight injury at an inappropriate party venue, parent doesn't want people to judge her by letting the child attend, the child by people asking why she touched the hot straighteners. The salon probably did not offer enough 'sorrow payments' by saying they would give Sophia free haircuts and treatments for life. So parent does the 'attack is the best form of defence' procedure and thinks she is going to get fully backed and everyone is going to be outraged at the treatment of her child. Cupcake, may I add that I am truly sorry that whatever the circumstances, you, your child and family had to experience such a horrendous situation. I wish your child a speedy and complete recovery.[/p][/quote]Are you for real?? Personally I very much doubt if I was Sophia mum would I ever set foot in that poor excuse of a shop again..!! This is not about what ppl can get or not get, it's about an accident that should NEVER of happened...I can't believe the pathetic comments I'm reading...! All I can say is SHAME on you as clearly you can't or won't see the picture here.! Why would anyone want free hair cuts etc for life! I would be to scared for my child to think the staff there are incapable of looking out for children's safety! Personally I'm not going to waste my time argueing with idiotic judgemental fools..... Just funny that ppl kick off on here when someone says something against the shop etc but yet you all feel the need to slag this poor 6 year old and her mother off!! And you all wonder why we think you work there or are good mates...!!!! 1978_ leigh
  • Score: -6

12:46pm Sat 3 May 14

Craft107 says...

1978_ leigh wrote:
Craft107 wrote:
Sophia's mum wrote:
cupcake:) wrote:
"SEVERE BURNS"
My child was " SEVERELY BURNT".We were tranfered to a burns unit in London, the hours of my child screaming in uncontrollable pain, the nights we had to stay in hospital the weeks of my child being wrapped in bandages and talk of skin graft, the worry of how the injures would completely change all ourlives. I haven't ever felt the need to complain as all my energy was put into the recovery & now we feel truely blessed that they made an amazing recovery where other parents aren't as fortunate, some others just wish that their child had survived!
I'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)
'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)

No you did not write the article, but you did instruct it to be written! With a view that probably everyone would vilify the salon.....they haven't!

The reporter that wrote the article and put 'severe burn' needs to be called into question, it should have read 'a SLIGHT burn' really.

I am glad that you have found others comments 'more entertaining than you realise' and you are able to take them in a light hearted way.....I thought your next claim might be for PTSD after your child being hurt!

This is a non article, a child suffered a slight injury at an inappropriate party venue, parent doesn't want people to judge her by letting the child attend, the child by people asking why she touched the hot straighteners. The salon probably did not offer enough 'sorrow payments' by saying they would give Sophia free haircuts and treatments for life. So parent does the 'attack is the best form of defence' procedure and thinks she is going to get fully backed and everyone is going to be outraged at the treatment of her child.

Cupcake, may I add that I am truly sorry that whatever the circumstances, you, your child and family had to experience such a horrendous situation. I wish your child a speedy and complete recovery.
Are you for real?? Personally I very much doubt if I was Sophia mum would I ever set foot in that poor excuse of a shop again..!! This is not about what ppl can get or not get, it's about an accident that should NEVER of happened...I can't believe the pathetic comments I'm reading...!

All I can say is SHAME on you as clearly you can't or won't see the picture here.! Why would anyone want free hair cuts etc for life! I would be to scared for my child to think the staff there are incapable of looking out for children's safety! Personally I'm not going to waste my time argueing with idiotic judgemental fools..... Just funny that ppl kick off on here when someone says something against the shop etc but yet you all feel the need to slag this poor 6 year old and her mother off!! And you all wonder why we think you work there or are good mates...!!!!
1978-Leigh, to be taken seriously, you use the term 'are you for real' and call people idiots and idiotic far too much.

You need to calm down, accept that other people have differing views and your screaming 'are you for real, you idiot' is not going to change that.

As others say, deal with your anger issues, shouting does not get you what you want.

I can see the picture, I have taken the time, the burn is not severe, it's a burn, not nice but saying suffers a severe burn and Sophia's mum quoting it as a really bad injury is hype and dramatising the situation.

I would expect a really bad Injury to require medical intervention by a health professional, but that's me.
[quote][p][bold]1978_ leigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Craft107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sophia's mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cupcake:)[/bold] wrote: "SEVERE BURNS" My child was " SEVERELY BURNT".We were tranfered to a burns unit in London, the hours of my child screaming in uncontrollable pain, the nights we had to stay in hospital the weeks of my child being wrapped in bandages and talk of skin graft, the worry of how the injures would completely change all ourlives. I haven't ever felt the need to complain as all my energy was put into the recovery & now we feel truely blessed that they made an amazing recovery where other parents aren't as fortunate, some others just wish that their child had survived![/p][/quote]I'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)[/p][/quote]'m so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :) No you did not write the article, but you did instruct it to be written! With a view that probably everyone would vilify the salon.....they haven't! The reporter that wrote the article and put 'severe burn' needs to be called into question, it should have read 'a SLIGHT burn' really. I am glad that you have found others comments 'more entertaining than you realise' and you are able to take them in a light hearted way.....I thought your next claim might be for PTSD after your child being hurt! This is a non article, a child suffered a slight injury at an inappropriate party venue, parent doesn't want people to judge her by letting the child attend, the child by people asking why she touched the hot straighteners. The salon probably did not offer enough 'sorrow payments' by saying they would give Sophia free haircuts and treatments for life. So parent does the 'attack is the best form of defence' procedure and thinks she is going to get fully backed and everyone is going to be outraged at the treatment of her child. Cupcake, may I add that I am truly sorry that whatever the circumstances, you, your child and family had to experience such a horrendous situation. I wish your child a speedy and complete recovery.[/p][/quote]Are you for real?? Personally I very much doubt if I was Sophia mum would I ever set foot in that poor excuse of a shop again..!! This is not about what ppl can get or not get, it's about an accident that should NEVER of happened...I can't believe the pathetic comments I'm reading...! All I can say is SHAME on you as clearly you can't or won't see the picture here.! Why would anyone want free hair cuts etc for life! I would be to scared for my child to think the staff there are incapable of looking out for children's safety! Personally I'm not going to waste my time argueing with idiotic judgemental fools..... Just funny that ppl kick off on here when someone says something against the shop etc but yet you all feel the need to slag this poor 6 year old and her mother off!! And you all wonder why we think you work there or are good mates...!!!![/p][/quote]1978-Leigh, to be taken seriously, you use the term 'are you for real' and call people idiots and idiotic far too much. You need to calm down, accept that other people have differing views and your screaming 'are you for real, you idiot' is not going to change that. As others say, deal with your anger issues, shouting does not get you what you want. I can see the picture, I have taken the time, the burn is not severe, it's a burn, not nice but saying suffers a severe burn and Sophia's mum quoting it as a really bad injury is hype and dramatising the situation. I would expect a really bad Injury to require medical intervention by a health professional, but that's me. Craft107
  • Score: 7

1:00pm Sat 3 May 14

Sophia's mum says...

PeterM wrote:
Sophia's mum wrote:
Peter. I really do question your fascination over this story?! How do you feel you can relate to this in any way? Oh yes, you volunteer your services to look after children. Does this mean you are unemployed?! Are they being watched adqequately whilst you scrape the barrell with your comments? Wouldn't want anyone to get hurt! Mind you, suppose in your eyes it would only be the child's fault anyway!

The reason I reported this incident to the news paper was to show how dangerous it is to use items such as straighteners etc and leaving them unattended when supposedly catering for children aged 5+. You think as a result of this my daughter will be bullied? That's the most ridiculous comment I've ever heard! Well, that and a few other of your comments!

My name was omitted from the news report due to the nature of my husbands business which I sometimes assist with. I I don't know where you come from but I can assure you I am not likely to be targeted at the gate. I do however thank you for your comments! They have been more entertaining than you realise!
1. I prefer the word interested not fascinated.
2. I left school after taking four A levels and started working straight away. I am not and never have been unemployed. I volunteer because I enjoy it.
3. We have very strict adult/children ratios. At no time are children left unattended. There are always at least two adults with even one child.
4. All adults have full CRB clearance and have had Safeguarding training every three years.
5. I know what children CAN be like and whilst Sophia's close friends might not pick on her, it is highly possible that others will.
6. Your reasons for going to the press, rather than Trading Standards, which is where I would have gone, seem rather dubious and in the article actually come across as malicious.
Who said I haven't gone to trading standards Peter?! Assuming again are we?! :-)
[quote][p][bold]PeterM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sophia's mum[/bold] wrote: Peter. I really do question your fascination over this story?! How do you feel you can relate to this in any way? Oh yes, you volunteer your services to look after children. Does this mean you are unemployed?! Are they being watched adqequately whilst you scrape the barrell with your comments? Wouldn't want anyone to get hurt! Mind you, suppose in your eyes it would only be the child's fault anyway! The reason I reported this incident to the news paper was to show how dangerous it is to use items such as straighteners etc and leaving them unattended when supposedly catering for children aged 5+. You think as a result of this my daughter will be bullied? That's the most ridiculous comment I've ever heard! Well, that and a few other of your comments! My name was omitted from the news report due to the nature of my husbands business which I sometimes assist with. I I don't know where you come from but I can assure you I am not likely to be targeted at the gate. I do however thank you for your comments! They have been more entertaining than you realise![/p][/quote]1. I prefer the word interested not fascinated. 2. I left school after taking four A levels and started working straight away. I am not and never have been unemployed. I volunteer because I enjoy it. 3. We have very strict adult/children ratios. At no time are children left unattended. There are always at least two adults with even one child. 4. All adults have full CRB clearance and have had Safeguarding training every three years. 5. I know what children CAN be like and whilst Sophia's close friends might not pick on her, it is highly possible that others will. 6. Your reasons for going to the press, rather than Trading Standards, which is where I would have gone, seem rather dubious and in the article actually come across as malicious.[/p][/quote]Who said I haven't gone to trading standards Peter?! Assuming again are we?! :-) Sophia's mum
  • Score: -3

1:05pm Sat 3 May 14

PeterM says...

Sophia's mum wrote:
PeterM wrote:
Sophia's mum wrote:
Peter. I really do question your fascination over this story?! How do you feel you can relate to this in any way? Oh yes, you volunteer your services to look after children. Does this mean you are unemployed?! Are they being watched adqequately whilst you scrape the barrell with your comments? Wouldn't want anyone to get hurt! Mind you, suppose in your eyes it would only be the child's fault anyway!

The reason I reported this incident to the news paper was to show how dangerous it is to use items such as straighteners etc and leaving them unattended when supposedly catering for children aged 5+. You think as a result of this my daughter will be bullied? That's the most ridiculous comment I've ever heard! Well, that and a few other of your comments!

My name was omitted from the news report due to the nature of my husbands business which I sometimes assist with. I I don't know where you come from but I can assure you I am not likely to be targeted at the gate. I do however thank you for your comments! They have been more entertaining than you realise!
1. I prefer the word interested not fascinated.
2. I left school after taking four A levels and started working straight away. I am not and never have been unemployed. I volunteer because I enjoy it.
3. We have very strict adult/children ratios. At no time are children left unattended. There are always at least two adults with even one child.
4. All adults have full CRB clearance and have had Safeguarding training every three years.
5. I know what children CAN be like and whilst Sophia's close friends might not pick on her, it is highly possible that others will.
6. Your reasons for going to the press, rather than Trading Standards, which is where I would have gone, seem rather dubious and in the article actually come across as malicious.
Who said I haven't gone to trading standards Peter?! Assuming again are we?! :-)
Because you've made no mention of it, and reading the article and your comments it's safe to assume that if you had reported this, you would have mentioned it.

So have you?
[quote][p][bold]Sophia's mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PeterM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sophia's mum[/bold] wrote: Peter. I really do question your fascination over this story?! How do you feel you can relate to this in any way? Oh yes, you volunteer your services to look after children. Does this mean you are unemployed?! Are they being watched adqequately whilst you scrape the barrell with your comments? Wouldn't want anyone to get hurt! Mind you, suppose in your eyes it would only be the child's fault anyway! The reason I reported this incident to the news paper was to show how dangerous it is to use items such as straighteners etc and leaving them unattended when supposedly catering for children aged 5+. You think as a result of this my daughter will be bullied? That's the most ridiculous comment I've ever heard! Well, that and a few other of your comments! My name was omitted from the news report due to the nature of my husbands business which I sometimes assist with. I I don't know where you come from but I can assure you I am not likely to be targeted at the gate. I do however thank you for your comments! They have been more entertaining than you realise![/p][/quote]1. I prefer the word interested not fascinated. 2. I left school after taking four A levels and started working straight away. I am not and never have been unemployed. I volunteer because I enjoy it. 3. We have very strict adult/children ratios. At no time are children left unattended. There are always at least two adults with even one child. 4. All adults have full CRB clearance and have had Safeguarding training every three years. 5. I know what children CAN be like and whilst Sophia's close friends might not pick on her, it is highly possible that others will. 6. Your reasons for going to the press, rather than Trading Standards, which is where I would have gone, seem rather dubious and in the article actually come across as malicious.[/p][/quote]Who said I haven't gone to trading standards Peter?! Assuming again are we?! :-)[/p][/quote]Because you've made no mention of it, and reading the article and your comments it's safe to assume that if you had reported this, you would have mentioned it. So have you? PeterM
  • Score: 0

1:08pm Sat 3 May 14

Sophia's mum says...

Craft107 wrote:
Sophia's mum wrote:
cupcake:) wrote:
"SEVERE BURNS"
My child was " SEVERELY BURNT".We were tranfered to a burns unit in London, the hours of my child screaming in uncontrollable pain, the nights we had to stay in hospital the weeks of my child being wrapped in bandages and talk of skin graft, the worry of how the injures would completely change all ourlives. I haven't ever felt the need to complain as all my energy was put into the recovery & now we feel truely blessed that they made an amazing recovery where other parents aren't as fortunate, some others just wish that their child had survived!
I'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)
'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)

No you did not write the article, but you did instruct it to be written! With a view that probably everyone would vilify the salon.....they haven't!

The reporter that wrote the article and put 'severe burn' needs to be called into question, it should have read 'a SLIGHT burn' really.

I am glad that you have found others comments 'more entertaining than you realise' and you are able to take them in a light hearted way.....I thought your next claim might be for PTSD after your child being hurt!

This is a non article, a child suffered a slight injury at an inappropriate party venue, parent doesn't want people to judge her by letting the child attend, the child by people asking why she touched the hot straighteners. The salon probably did not offer enough 'sorrow payments' by saying they would give Sophia free haircuts and treatments for life. So parent does the 'attack is the best form of defence' procedure and thinks she is going to get fully backed and everyone is going to be outraged at the treatment of her child.

Cupcake, may I add that I am truly sorry that whatever the circumstances, you, your child and family had to experience such a horrendous situation. I wish your child a speedy and complete recovery.
Sorrow payments?! Oh you are something! They could have offered my daughter free cuts or whatever they felt necessary and I would have declined! If I was after something in return, I would have sued them surely?! I certainly have had many people telling me to!
[quote][p][bold]Craft107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sophia's mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cupcake:)[/bold] wrote: "SEVERE BURNS" My child was " SEVERELY BURNT".We were tranfered to a burns unit in London, the hours of my child screaming in uncontrollable pain, the nights we had to stay in hospital the weeks of my child being wrapped in bandages and talk of skin graft, the worry of how the injures would completely change all ourlives. I haven't ever felt the need to complain as all my energy was put into the recovery & now we feel truely blessed that they made an amazing recovery where other parents aren't as fortunate, some others just wish that their child had survived![/p][/quote]I'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)[/p][/quote]'m so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :) No you did not write the article, but you did instruct it to be written! With a view that probably everyone would vilify the salon.....they haven't! The reporter that wrote the article and put 'severe burn' needs to be called into question, it should have read 'a SLIGHT burn' really. I am glad that you have found others comments 'more entertaining than you realise' and you are able to take them in a light hearted way.....I thought your next claim might be for PTSD after your child being hurt! This is a non article, a child suffered a slight injury at an inappropriate party venue, parent doesn't want people to judge her by letting the child attend, the child by people asking why she touched the hot straighteners. The salon probably did not offer enough 'sorrow payments' by saying they would give Sophia free haircuts and treatments for life. So parent does the 'attack is the best form of defence' procedure and thinks she is going to get fully backed and everyone is going to be outraged at the treatment of her child. Cupcake, may I add that I am truly sorry that whatever the circumstances, you, your child and family had to experience such a horrendous situation. I wish your child a speedy and complete recovery.[/p][/quote]Sorrow payments?! Oh you are something! They could have offered my daughter free cuts or whatever they felt necessary and I would have declined! If I was after something in return, I would have sued them surely?! I certainly have had many people telling me to! Sophia's mum
  • Score: -6

1:09pm Sat 3 May 14

Sophia's mum says...

Yes Peter, I have reported it to trading standards
Yes Peter, I have reported it to trading standards Sophia's mum
  • Score: -2

1:15pm Sat 3 May 14

PeterM says...

Sophia's mum wrote:
Yes Peter, I have reported it to trading standards
Good, that was the right thing to do.

Shame you felt the need to go to the papers before the case had been concluded. Afterwards, yes, but whilst it's still ongoing, that's wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Sophia's mum[/bold] wrote: Yes Peter, I have reported it to trading standards[/p][/quote]Good, that was the right thing to do. Shame you felt the need to go to the papers before the case had been concluded. Afterwards, yes, but whilst it's still ongoing, that's wrong. PeterM
  • Score: 7

6:41pm Sat 3 May 14

1978_ leigh says...

Craft107 wrote:
1978_ leigh wrote:
Craft107 wrote:
Sophia's mum wrote:
cupcake:) wrote:
"SEVERE BURNS"
My child was " SEVERELY BURNT".We were tranfered to a burns unit in London, the hours of my child screaming in uncontrollable pain, the nights we had to stay in hospital the weeks of my child being wrapped in bandages and talk of skin graft, the worry of how the injures would completely change all ourlives. I haven't ever felt the need to complain as all my energy was put into the recovery & now we feel truely blessed that they made an amazing recovery where other parents aren't as fortunate, some others just wish that their child had survived!
I'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)
'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)

No you did not write the article, but you did instruct it to be written! With a view that probably everyone would vilify the salon.....they haven't!

The reporter that wrote the article and put 'severe burn' needs to be called into question, it should have read 'a SLIGHT burn' really.

I am glad that you have found others comments 'more entertaining than you realise' and you are able to take them in a light hearted way.....I thought your next claim might be for PTSD after your child being hurt!

This is a non article, a child suffered a slight injury at an inappropriate party venue, parent doesn't want people to judge her by letting the child attend, the child by people asking why she touched the hot straighteners. The salon probably did not offer enough 'sorrow payments' by saying they would give Sophia free haircuts and treatments for life. So parent does the 'attack is the best form of defence' procedure and thinks she is going to get fully backed and everyone is going to be outraged at the treatment of her child.

Cupcake, may I add that I am truly sorry that whatever the circumstances, you, your child and family had to experience such a horrendous situation. I wish your child a speedy and complete recovery.
Are you for real?? Personally I very much doubt if I was Sophia mum would I ever set foot in that poor excuse of a shop again..!! This is not about what ppl can get or not get, it's about an accident that should NEVER of happened...I can't believe the pathetic comments I'm reading...!

All I can say is SHAME on you as clearly you can't or won't see the picture here.! Why would anyone want free hair cuts etc for life! I would be to scared for my child to think the staff there are incapable of looking out for children's safety! Personally I'm not going to waste my time argueing with idiotic judgemental fools..... Just funny that ppl kick off on here when someone says something against the shop etc but yet you all feel the need to slag this poor 6 year old and her mother off!! And you all wonder why we think you work there or are good mates...!!!!
1978-Leigh, to be taken seriously, you use the term 'are you for real' and call people idiots and idiotic far too much.

You need to calm down, accept that other people have differing views and your screaming 'are you for real, you idiot' is not going to change that.

As others say, deal with your anger issues, shouting does not get you what you want.

I can see the picture, I have taken the time, the burn is not severe, it's a burn, not nice but saying suffers a severe burn and Sophia's mum quoting it as a really bad injury is hype and dramatising the situation.

I would expect a really bad Injury to require medical intervention by a health professional, but that's me.
And here you go back to the Apparant Anger Issues..!!! Ha I must admit your rather a funny person (not) to be honest there's a few words I could use but I've not so how you can say I have anger issues is rather entertaining...as for the newspaper article saying a really bad injury I'm sure I read Sophia mum say she never said that.! All you lot want to do on here is blame a 6 year old child and her mum, no matter what anyone says you have to judge! Well tbh I'm BORED now of saying the same thing! Personally if I was Sophia's Mum I would sue as it's disgusting that she and that child can be slagged off like that!!! I'm not wasting my time with you ppl no more as clearly You all have it in for this child and her family.!!!! Just a shame you haven't thought about if it was your child and this happened! All I can say is I hope none of these Judgemental ppl children it happens to as bet your all be seeing it differently then.!
[quote][p][bold]Craft107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1978_ leigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Craft107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sophia's mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cupcake:)[/bold] wrote: "SEVERE BURNS" My child was " SEVERELY BURNT".We were tranfered to a burns unit in London, the hours of my child screaming in uncontrollable pain, the nights we had to stay in hospital the weeks of my child being wrapped in bandages and talk of skin graft, the worry of how the injures would completely change all ourlives. I haven't ever felt the need to complain as all my energy was put into the recovery & now we feel truely blessed that they made an amazing recovery where other parents aren't as fortunate, some others just wish that their child had survived![/p][/quote]I'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)[/p][/quote]'m so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :) No you did not write the article, but you did instruct it to be written! With a view that probably everyone would vilify the salon.....they haven't! The reporter that wrote the article and put 'severe burn' needs to be called into question, it should have read 'a SLIGHT burn' really. I am glad that you have found others comments 'more entertaining than you realise' and you are able to take them in a light hearted way.....I thought your next claim might be for PTSD after your child being hurt! This is a non article, a child suffered a slight injury at an inappropriate party venue, parent doesn't want people to judge her by letting the child attend, the child by people asking why she touched the hot straighteners. The salon probably did not offer enough 'sorrow payments' by saying they would give Sophia free haircuts and treatments for life. So parent does the 'attack is the best form of defence' procedure and thinks she is going to get fully backed and everyone is going to be outraged at the treatment of her child. Cupcake, may I add that I am truly sorry that whatever the circumstances, you, your child and family had to experience such a horrendous situation. I wish your child a speedy and complete recovery.[/p][/quote]Are you for real?? Personally I very much doubt if I was Sophia mum would I ever set foot in that poor excuse of a shop again..!! This is not about what ppl can get or not get, it's about an accident that should NEVER of happened...I can't believe the pathetic comments I'm reading...! All I can say is SHAME on you as clearly you can't or won't see the picture here.! Why would anyone want free hair cuts etc for life! I would be to scared for my child to think the staff there are incapable of looking out for children's safety! Personally I'm not going to waste my time argueing with idiotic judgemental fools..... Just funny that ppl kick off on here when someone says something against the shop etc but yet you all feel the need to slag this poor 6 year old and her mother off!! And you all wonder why we think you work there or are good mates...!!!![/p][/quote]1978-Leigh, to be taken seriously, you use the term 'are you for real' and call people idiots and idiotic far too much. You need to calm down, accept that other people have differing views and your screaming 'are you for real, you idiot' is not going to change that. As others say, deal with your anger issues, shouting does not get you what you want. I can see the picture, I have taken the time, the burn is not severe, it's a burn, not nice but saying suffers a severe burn and Sophia's mum quoting it as a really bad injury is hype and dramatising the situation. I would expect a really bad Injury to require medical intervention by a health professional, but that's me.[/p][/quote]And here you go back to the Apparant Anger Issues..!!! Ha I must admit your rather a funny person (not) to be honest there's a few words I could use but I've not so how you can say I have anger issues is rather entertaining...as for the newspaper article saying a really bad injury I'm sure I read Sophia mum say she never said that.! All you lot want to do on here is blame a 6 year old child and her mum, no matter what anyone says you have to judge! Well tbh I'm BORED now of saying the same thing! Personally if I was Sophia's Mum I would sue as it's disgusting that she and that child can be slagged off like that!!! I'm not wasting my time with you ppl no more as clearly You all have it in for this child and her family.!!!! Just a shame you haven't thought about if it was your child and this happened! All I can say is I hope none of these Judgemental ppl children it happens to as bet your all be seeing it differently then.! 1978_ leigh
  • Score: -7

9:03pm Sat 3 May 14

samwills says...

samwills wrote:
It appears from the suggestions on here that if a child is told no means no then they deserve to face the consequence of their actions. I assume therefore if a child is told not to go near a swimming pool there is no reason to have health and safetly rules in place to ensure doors are locked when closed or have a lifeguard on duty. After all if they drown it would be acceptable as they were told not to go near water, OR maybe , we no longer worry about stair gates and just tell our toddlers not to climb stairs, even better lets not take our young children to school any more. Just tell them 3 times not to talk to strangers and if harm comes to them then we can defend the fact the oh so awful, disobedient, terrible child had been told 3 times so accept the consequence. OUTRAGEOUS. Yes we tell our children to educate them but they are still children so we also ensure safe measures are put in place to minimise any risk of harm coming to a child. The fact this child was able to physically be able to reach straighteners which are a hazard shows me that good health and safety measures were not put in place. Did the company maybe make a small error that resulted in an accident on an innocent child that they regret. Yes probably but then maybe it is them that should face the consequence not the innocent child being blamed on here.
I am amazed that blame is still being placed on a child and her parent. Firstly a salon who cater for children's parties and advertise the fact that the party is aimed at the correct age why would any parent not naturally assume it is insured, safe and has the correct policies in place to cater for what they are offering. All businesses have to have strict H&S policies in place BY LAW and by the mere fact this child was able to become burnt on hot straighteners tells me that the salon look as if they made a judgemental error. Why is this apparent breech of health & safety by the staff at the salon not being acknowledged by many of the people commenting on here. A parent is being attacked for voicing an incident and yet the actual incident itself gets ignored. Beyond belief.
[quote][p][bold]samwills[/bold] wrote: It appears from the suggestions on here that if a child is told no means no then they deserve to face the consequence of their actions. I assume therefore if a child is told not to go near a swimming pool there is no reason to have health and safetly rules in place to ensure doors are locked when closed or have a lifeguard on duty. After all if they drown it would be acceptable as they were told not to go near water, OR maybe , we no longer worry about stair gates and just tell our toddlers not to climb stairs, even better lets not take our young children to school any more. Just tell them 3 times not to talk to strangers and if harm comes to them then we can defend the fact the oh so awful, disobedient, terrible child had been told 3 times so accept the consequence. OUTRAGEOUS. Yes we tell our children to educate them but they are still children so we also ensure safe measures are put in place to minimise any risk of harm coming to a child. The fact this child was able to physically be able to reach straighteners which are a hazard shows me that good health and safety measures were not put in place. Did the company maybe make a small error that resulted in an accident on an innocent child that they regret. Yes probably but then maybe it is them that should face the consequence not the innocent child being blamed on here.[/p][/quote]I am amazed that blame is still being placed on a child and her parent. Firstly a salon who cater for children's parties and advertise the fact that the party is aimed at the correct age why would any parent not naturally assume it is insured, safe and has the correct policies in place to cater for what they are offering. All businesses have to have strict H&S policies in place BY LAW and by the mere fact this child was able to become burnt on hot straighteners tells me that the salon look as if they made a judgemental error. Why is this apparent breech of health & safety by the staff at the salon not being acknowledged by many of the people commenting on here. A parent is being attacked for voicing an incident and yet the actual incident itself gets ignored. Beyond belief. samwills
  • Score: -1

9:58pm Sat 3 May 14

Craft107 says...

1978_ leigh wrote:
Craft107 wrote:
1978_ leigh wrote:
Craft107 wrote:
Sophia's mum wrote:
cupcake:) wrote:
"SEVERE BURNS"
My child was " SEVERELY BURNT".We were tranfered to a burns unit in London, the hours of my child screaming in uncontrollable pain, the nights we had to stay in hospital the weeks of my child being wrapped in bandages and talk of skin graft, the worry of how the injures would completely change all ourlives. I haven't ever felt the need to complain as all my energy was put into the recovery & now we feel truely blessed that they made an amazing recovery where other parents aren't as fortunate, some others just wish that their child had survived!
I'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)
'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)

No you did not write the article, but you did instruct it to be written! With a view that probably everyone would vilify the salon.....they haven't!

The reporter that wrote the article and put 'severe burn' needs to be called into question, it should have read 'a SLIGHT burn' really.

I am glad that you have found others comments 'more entertaining than you realise' and you are able to take them in a light hearted way.....I thought your next claim might be for PTSD after your child being hurt!

This is a non article, a child suffered a slight injury at an inappropriate party venue, parent doesn't want people to judge her by letting the child attend, the child by people asking why she touched the hot straighteners. The salon probably did not offer enough 'sorrow payments' by saying they would give Sophia free haircuts and treatments for life. So parent does the 'attack is the best form of defence' procedure and thinks she is going to get fully backed and everyone is going to be outraged at the treatment of her child.

Cupcake, may I add that I am truly sorry that whatever the circumstances, you, your child and family had to experience such a horrendous situation. I wish your child a speedy and complete recovery.
Are you for real?? Personally I very much doubt if I was Sophia mum would I ever set foot in that poor excuse of a shop again..!! This is not about what ppl can get or not get, it's about an accident that should NEVER of happened...I can't believe the pathetic comments I'm reading...!

All I can say is SHAME on you as clearly you can't or won't see the picture here.! Why would anyone want free hair cuts etc for life! I would be to scared for my child to think the staff there are incapable of looking out for children's safety! Personally I'm not going to waste my time argueing with idiotic judgemental fools..... Just funny that ppl kick off on here when someone says something against the shop etc but yet you all feel the need to slag this poor 6 year old and her mother off!! And you all wonder why we think you work there or are good mates...!!!!
1978-Leigh, to be taken seriously, you use the term 'are you for real' and call people idiots and idiotic far too much.

You need to calm down, accept that other people have differing views and your screaming 'are you for real, you idiot' is not going to change that.

As others say, deal with your anger issues, shouting does not get you what you want.

I can see the picture, I have taken the time, the burn is not severe, it's a burn, not nice but saying suffers a severe burn and Sophia's mum quoting it as a really bad injury is hype and dramatising the situation.

I would expect a really bad Injury to require medical intervention by a health professional, but that's me.
And here you go back to the Apparant Anger Issues..!!! Ha I must admit your rather a funny person (not) to be honest there's a few words I could use but I've not so how you can say I have anger issues is rather entertaining...as for the newspaper article saying a really bad injury I'm sure I read Sophia mum say she never said that.! All you lot want to do on here is blame a 6 year old child and her mum, no matter what anyone says you have to judge! Well tbh I'm BORED now of saying the same thing! Personally if I was Sophia's Mum I would sue as it's disgusting that she and that child can be slagged off like that!!! I'm not wasting my time with you ppl no more as clearly You all have it in for this child and her family.!!!! Just a shame you haven't thought about if it was your child and this happened! All I can say is I hope none of these Judgemental ppl children it happens to as bet your all be seeing it differently then.!
1978 _leigh, please take the time to read the article! otherwise your comments are not relevant nor interesting! Sophia's mum "it was a really nasty injury" , how you are commenting so vehemently when you have not read or digested the article is quite unbelievable!

Well done on just one upper case word in your last comment, indicating anger, big improvement on previous comments.

I pleased that you are not wasting your time with us people 'no' more, I too will not waste time with you 'anymore'.
[quote][p][bold]1978_ leigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Craft107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1978_ leigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Craft107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sophia's mum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cupcake:)[/bold] wrote: "SEVERE BURNS" My child was " SEVERELY BURNT".We were tranfered to a burns unit in London, the hours of my child screaming in uncontrollable pain, the nights we had to stay in hospital the weeks of my child being wrapped in bandages and talk of skin graft, the worry of how the injures would completely change all ourlives. I haven't ever felt the need to complain as all my energy was put into the recovery & now we feel truely blessed that they made an amazing recovery where other parents aren't as fortunate, some others just wish that their child had survived![/p][/quote]I'm so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :)[/p][/quote]'m so sorry to hear your little one was severely burnt. Please appreciate that I did not write the article, nor did I ever say severely burnt. Glad to hear your child has recovered :) No you did not write the article, but you did instruct it to be written! With a view that probably everyone would vilify the salon.....they haven't! The reporter that wrote the article and put 'severe burn' needs to be called into question, it should have read 'a SLIGHT burn' really. I am glad that you have found others comments 'more entertaining than you realise' and you are able to take them in a light hearted way.....I thought your next claim might be for PTSD after your child being hurt! This is a non article, a child suffered a slight injury at an inappropriate party venue, parent doesn't want people to judge her by letting the child attend, the child by people asking why she touched the hot straighteners. The salon probably did not offer enough 'sorrow payments' by saying they would give Sophia free haircuts and treatments for life. So parent does the 'attack is the best form of defence' procedure and thinks she is going to get fully backed and everyone is going to be outraged at the treatment of her child. Cupcake, may I add that I am truly sorry that whatever the circumstances, you, your child and family had to experience such a horrendous situation. I wish your child a speedy and complete recovery.[/p][/quote]Are you for real?? Personally I very much doubt if I was Sophia mum would I ever set foot in that poor excuse of a shop again..!! This is not about what ppl can get or not get, it's about an accident that should NEVER of happened...I can't believe the pathetic comments I'm reading...! All I can say is SHAME on you as clearly you can't or won't see the picture here.! Why would anyone want free hair cuts etc for life! I would be to scared for my child to think the staff there are incapable of looking out for children's safety! Personally I'm not going to waste my time argueing with idiotic judgemental fools..... Just funny that ppl kick off on here when someone says something against the shop etc but yet you all feel the need to slag this poor 6 year old and her mother off!! And you all wonder why we think you work there or are good mates...!!!![/p][/quote]1978-Leigh, to be taken seriously, you use the term 'are you for real' and call people idiots and idiotic far too much. You need to calm down, accept that other people have differing views and your screaming 'are you for real, you idiot' is not going to change that. As others say, deal with your anger issues, shouting does not get you what you want. I can see the picture, I have taken the time, the burn is not severe, it's a burn, not nice but saying suffers a severe burn and Sophia's mum quoting it as a really bad injury is hype and dramatising the situation. I would expect a really bad Injury to require medical intervention by a health professional, but that's me.[/p][/quote]And here you go back to the Apparant Anger Issues..!!! Ha I must admit your rather a funny person (not) to be honest there's a few words I could use but I've not so how you can say I have anger issues is rather entertaining...as for the newspaper article saying a really bad injury I'm sure I read Sophia mum say she never said that.! All you lot want to do on here is blame a 6 year old child and her mum, no matter what anyone says you have to judge! Well tbh I'm BORED now of saying the same thing! Personally if I was Sophia's Mum I would sue as it's disgusting that she and that child can be slagged off like that!!! I'm not wasting my time with you ppl no more as clearly You all have it in for this child and her family.!!!! Just a shame you haven't thought about if it was your child and this happened! All I can say is I hope none of these Judgemental ppl children it happens to as bet your all be seeing it differently then.![/p][/quote]1978 _leigh, please take the time to read the article! otherwise your comments are not relevant nor interesting! Sophia's mum "it was a really nasty injury" , how you are commenting so vehemently when you have not read or digested the article is quite unbelievable! Well done on just one upper case word in your last comment, indicating anger, big improvement on previous comments. I pleased that you are not wasting your time with us people 'no' more, I too will not waste time with you 'anymore'. Craft107
  • Score: 9

8:25am Sun 4 May 14

mrswallington66 says...

I am shocked and stunned at this furore lets all grow up and be real .I know I would b v upset if my child were hurt in such circumstances the salon were not the adults the child was entrusted to but the party host. That is not to say the salon should not have measures in place to protect a child sadly we would be foolish if we could not name situations where a child did not do as they were told. If it had been the child had gone for a haircut there it would have been a different scenario. My fear for poor Sophie is this action will b remembered and not b asked to parties so she suffers twice. This is an accident that's all no medical assistance was sort as has been shown in proportion in these comments. I truly feel for all parties but cannot believe the guardian most for the article. Surely sutton has life threatening issues needing to b raised like saving ST helier.
I am shocked and stunned at this furore lets all grow up and be real .I know I would b v upset if my child were hurt in such circumstances the salon were not the adults the child was entrusted to but the party host. That is not to say the salon should not have measures in place to protect a child sadly we would be foolish if we could not name situations where a child did not do as they were told. If it had been the child had gone for a haircut there it would have been a different scenario. My fear for poor Sophie is this action will b remembered and not b asked to parties so she suffers twice. This is an accident that's all no medical assistance was sort as has been shown in proportion in these comments. I truly feel for all parties but cannot believe the guardian most for the article. Surely sutton has life threatening issues needing to b raised like saving ST helier. mrswallington66
  • Score: 6

9:59pm Sun 4 May 14

George36 says...

This news item is nearly as enthralling as the news about Katie Price's new pregnancy.....
A Chief Reporter ,surely some-one in higher authority was needed for such an important article !!!

Mind you, the comments have made interesting reading.Ditto "Storm Burger"
Note to self:
I must get out more...............
I must get out more...
This news item is nearly as enthralling as the news about Katie Price's new pregnancy..... A Chief Reporter ,surely some-one in higher authority was needed for such an important article !!! Mind you, the comments have made interesting reading.Ditto "Storm Burger" Note to self: I must get out more............... I must get out more... George36
  • Score: 3

12:05pm Mon 5 May 14

ozzie62 says...

Sophia's mum wrote:
Maybe I ought to clarify something here. Sophia was reaching over to get her hair clip that had been taken out by one of the hairdressers. She didn't get burnt from misbehaving or as a consequence of repeatedly trying to play with the straighteners. The straighteners had been left on a chair!!!!!
My argument here is that this salon caters for parties from age 5 upwards. I was advised by the owner that the children are watched 24/7, yet nobody saw my daughter get burnt?!
These straighteners should have been placed well put of the way and in a heat proof pouch. If that were the case Sophia wouldn't have been burnt!
As for having a day off school, no it wasn't life threatening, however she was exhausted from being up half the night crying as her wrist was burning!
To be frank, the owner wasn't too concerned when I called her regarding my daughters wrist. There wasn't even an apology!
If I wanted to ruin a local business as mentioned by 'Sutton mum' I'm sure I could think of better ways rather than this! Maybe being a mum yourself you should think how you would feel if it was your child! It was very lucky it was Sophia's wrist and not her face!
I
If the little girls wrist was hurting her so bad then why didn't the mother take her to the hospital and why didn't the girl ask a parent for her clip?.
The little girl deliberately ignored any of the warnings and decided that the word 'no' isn't important.
[quote][p][bold]Sophia's mum[/bold] wrote: Maybe I ought to clarify something here. Sophia was reaching over to get her hair clip that had been taken out by one of the hairdressers. She didn't get burnt from misbehaving or as a consequence of repeatedly trying to play with the straighteners. The straighteners had been left on a chair!!!!! My argument here is that this salon caters for parties from age 5 upwards. I was advised by the owner that the children are watched 24/7, yet nobody saw my daughter get burnt?! These straighteners should have been placed well put of the way and in a heat proof pouch. If that were the case Sophia wouldn't have been burnt! As for having a day off school, no it wasn't life threatening, however she was exhausted from being up half the night crying as her wrist was burning! To be frank, the owner wasn't too concerned when I called her regarding my daughters wrist. There wasn't even an apology! If I wanted to ruin a local business as mentioned by 'Sutton mum' I'm sure I could think of better ways rather than this! Maybe being a mum yourself you should think how you would feel if it was your child! It was very lucky it was Sophia's wrist and not her face! I[/p][/quote]If the little girls wrist was hurting her so bad then why didn't the mother take her to the hospital and why didn't the girl ask a parent for her clip?. The little girl deliberately ignored any of the warnings and decided that the word 'no' isn't important. ozzie62
  • Score: 7

1:10pm Mon 5 May 14

theresa7475 says...

I cant believe this has gone on and on. Lesson learnt to the Salon to in future remove all heated applicances to cool in the back or into heated bags.
Lesson to Sophia to listen to adults and maybe next time ask for what your trying to reach in future. Had she of just said "can you please pass me my hair clip" this whole incident could of been avoided.
Lesson to Sophia's mother, in future if that worried about a burn, seek medical assistance (if truely worried A&E or an NHS walk in centre) rather than contacting the local paper!
Usually when leaving a child at a party, you give a phone number out to the parent. There is no mention of the party hosts parent calling you etc. Thats rather neglegent, you left your child in their care! This really could go on and on, you havent got the attention you wanted. Poor Sophia will no doubt not be invitied to a party again for fear of anything ever happening again. Oh and my daughter and myself are still looking forward to having her's here, she has been afew times-its not put us off at all!
I cant believe this has gone on and on. Lesson learnt to the Salon to in future remove all heated applicances to cool in the back or into heated bags. Lesson to Sophia to listen to adults and maybe next time ask for what your trying to reach in future. Had she of just said "can you please pass me my hair clip" this whole incident could of been avoided. Lesson to Sophia's mother, in future if that worried about a burn, seek medical assistance (if truely worried A&E or an NHS walk in centre) rather than contacting the local paper! Usually when leaving a child at a party, you give a phone number out to the parent. There is no mention of the party hosts parent calling you etc. Thats rather neglegent, you left your child in their care! This really could go on and on, you havent got the attention you wanted. Poor Sophia will no doubt not be invitied to a party again for fear of anything ever happening again. Oh and my daughter and myself are still looking forward to having her's here, she has been afew times-its not put us off at all! theresa7475
  • Score: 10

3:05pm Wed 7 May 14

Farbinny Foil says...

Oh my days 1978_ leigh, please get over yourself... Great thing with the internet is; nowadays ANYONE can state an opinion on an article for others to see, compared to days of old when you would’ve still taken the same view/stance but without the chance of making a public statement, some call it trolling, others, stating a fact!
Oh my days 1978_ leigh, please get over yourself... Great thing with the internet is; nowadays ANYONE can state an opinion on an article for others to see, compared to days of old when you would’ve still taken the same view/stance but without the chance of making a public statement, some call it trolling, others, stating a fact! Farbinny Foil
  • Score: 4

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