Nightingale scoops top pub gong

Paul Scully presents the prize to staff from the Nightingale

Paul Scully presents the prize to staff from the Nightingale

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The Nightingale has been voted Sutton, Cheam and Worcester Park’s pub of the year.

The pub, based in Carshalton Road, beat 27 others for the title in a competition organised by Paul Scully, prospective conservative MP of Sutton and Cheam.

More than 1,500 customers voted online with The Robin Hood and Gander Inn coming second and third.

Paul Scully said: "This competition has been really enjoyable to organise. The willingness with which customers participated shows how much residents cherish their local as a community hub.

"The Nightingale is a great example of a pub that draws in both local regulars and people from a good distance away, all of whom like good company, good music and a decent drink."


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4:25pm Fri 2 May 14

LeslieCB says...

Best pub in the Borough is the Hope in Carshaltion. Local CAMRA pub of the year 5 times out of the last 6 years. Greater London CAMRA regional pub of the year for the last 2 years (The only pub EVER to have had this this title two years running) and came joint 2nd in the National CAMRA Pub Of The Year competition in 2013/4.

These are competitions that have independent judges, not just nominations from the pub's own customers.

The competitions are also not just designed to get a wannabe politician publicity in the local paper.
Best pub in the Borough is the Hope in Carshaltion. Local CAMRA pub of the year 5 times out of the last 6 years. Greater London CAMRA regional pub of the year for the last 2 years (The only pub EVER to have had this this title two years running) and came joint 2nd in the National CAMRA Pub Of The Year competition in 2013/4. These are competitions that have independent judges, not just nominations from the pub's own customers. The competitions are also not just designed to get a wannabe politician publicity in the local paper. LeslieCB
  • Score: -5

5:02pm Fri 2 May 14

Pepperpotter says...

Yes, how awful having people that actually frequent the pub voting for it.......
Yes, how awful having people that actually frequent the pub voting for it....... Pepperpotter
  • Score: 5

10:01pm Fri 2 May 14

Good Old Days says...

CAMRA vote for only those who serve real ales and are non inclusive of those who don't. Let those who cater for all types of pubgoer enjoy their success and give them a well earned congratulations!
CAMRA vote for only those who serve real ales and are non inclusive of those who don't. Let those who cater for all types of pubgoer enjoy their success and give them a well earned congratulations! Good Old Days
  • Score: 9

10:27am Sat 3 May 14

Mr Flange of Wallington says...

LeslieCB wrote:
Best pub in the Borough is the Hope in Carshaltion. Local CAMRA pub of the year 5 times out of the last 6 years. Greater London CAMRA regional pub of the year for the last 2 years (The only pub EVER to have had this this title two years running) and came joint 2nd in the National CAMRA Pub Of The Year competition in 2013/4.

These are competitions that have independent judges, not just nominations from the pub's own customers.

The competitions are also not just designed to get a wannabe politician publicity in the local paper.
Read the article.

It's the best pub in Sutton, Cheam and Worcester Park, not the whole borough.
[quote][p][bold]LeslieCB[/bold] wrote: Best pub in the Borough is the Hope in Carshaltion. Local CAMRA pub of the year 5 times out of the last 6 years. Greater London CAMRA regional pub of the year for the last 2 years (The only pub EVER to have had this this title two years running) and came joint 2nd in the National CAMRA Pub Of The Year competition in 2013/4. These are competitions that have independent judges, not just nominations from the pub's own customers. The competitions are also not just designed to get a wannabe politician publicity in the local paper.[/p][/quote]Read the article. It's the best pub in Sutton, Cheam and Worcester Park, not the whole borough. Mr Flange of Wallington
  • Score: 2

12:57pm Sat 3 May 14

Michael Pantlin says...

I know a pub that would win the customer punch up of the year competition for those who enjoy a bit of violence with their pint.
I know a pub that would win the customer punch up of the year competition for those who enjoy a bit of violence with their pint. Michael Pantlin
  • Score: 3

11:03pm Sat 3 May 14

Carshalton Resi says...

Nice one Leslie,
I'm sure you think The Hope should win best pub in Croydon too? It's just as relevant because Carshalton is in neither constituency.
I also remember hearing about The Hope getting a visit from Boris, weren't too bothered by political publicity then were you...
Nice one Leslie, I'm sure you think The Hope should win best pub in Croydon too? It's just as relevant because Carshalton is in neither constituency. I also remember hearing about The Hope getting a visit from Boris, weren't too bothered by political publicity then were you... Carshalton Resi
  • Score: 5

8:18am Sun 4 May 14

Mr Flange of Wallington says...

Carshalton Resi wrote:
Nice one Leslie,
I'm sure you think The Hope should win best pub in Croydon too? It's just as relevant because Carshalton is in neither constituency.
I also remember hearing about The Hope getting a visit from Boris, weren't too bothered by political publicity then were you...
The Hope is by far and away the nicest pub in Carshalton & Wallington.

Competition coming soon from Matthew Maxwell-Scott.......
....?
[quote][p][bold]Carshalton Resi[/bold] wrote: Nice one Leslie, I'm sure you think The Hope should win best pub in Croydon too? It's just as relevant because Carshalton is in neither constituency. I also remember hearing about The Hope getting a visit from Boris, weren't too bothered by political publicity then were you...[/p][/quote]The Hope is by far and away the nicest pub in Carshalton & Wallington. Competition coming soon from Matthew Maxwell-Scott....... ....? Mr Flange of Wallington
  • Score: -4

3:29pm Tue 6 May 14

LeslieCB says...

Pepperpotter wrote:
Yes, how awful having people that actually frequent the pub voting for it.......
.... and have no idea about the other pubs (ie. those who votes for the Robin Hood would not know about the Nightingale).

Only a competition where all the pubs in the running are visited by all the judges can be considered to have a truly reliable outcome.
[quote][p][bold]Pepperpotter[/bold] wrote: Yes, how awful having people that actually frequent the pub voting for it.......[/p][/quote].... and have no idea about the other pubs (ie. those who votes for the Robin Hood would not know about the Nightingale). Only a competition where all the pubs in the running are visited by all the judges can be considered to have a truly reliable outcome. LeslieCB
  • Score: -2

8:54am Wed 7 May 14

Paul Scully says...

LeslieCB I always like going to the Hope and have championed the approach that the local shareholders have taken to reverse its fortunes to the point that it gains national recognition. However this competition wasn't aiming to usurp the CAMRA one and I don't claim it to be a thorough review of each pub's drink, food, service and ambience. It's simply an opportunity for customers to take the time to say thank you to their local pub staff.

It follows on from a local Independent Shop competition that I organised last summer. I wanted to take the opportunity to showcase a number of pubs around the constituency where I am working to show them as community hubs with great beer and food rather than just places to hit the press when trouble occurs on Sutton High Street. The customers seemed to like voting, the staff enjoyed the engagement.

This competition has taken me into every pub in Sutton, Cheam and Worcester Park, giving me an opportunity to listen to the issues that landlords face, whether it's lack of footfall at the bottom of Sutton High Street because of the empty buildings or the problems of the revamp of Central Road in Worcester Park.

The two articles in the Sutton Guardian at the beginning and end of the competition are just a small part of the overall gain from holding the competition. Hopefully the Nightingale will get some benefit from the publicity. It's an excellent pub with a warm welcome and so deserves it. Similarly, the others who encouraged customers to vote will hopefully have got something out of it. With pubs closing at an alarming rate around the country, we've surely got space to recognise a few in the local area.
LeslieCB I always like going to the Hope and have championed the approach that the local shareholders have taken to reverse its fortunes to the point that it gains national recognition. However this competition wasn't aiming to usurp the CAMRA one and I don't claim it to be a thorough review of each pub's drink, food, service and ambience. It's simply an opportunity for customers to take the time to say thank you to their local pub staff. It follows on from a local Independent Shop competition that I organised last summer. I wanted to take the opportunity to showcase a number of pubs around the constituency where I am working to show them as community hubs with great beer and food rather than just places to hit the press when trouble occurs on Sutton High Street. The customers seemed to like voting, the staff enjoyed the engagement. This competition has taken me into every pub in Sutton, Cheam and Worcester Park, giving me an opportunity to listen to the issues that landlords face, whether it's lack of footfall at the bottom of Sutton High Street because of the empty buildings or the problems of the revamp of Central Road in Worcester Park. The two articles in the Sutton Guardian at the beginning and end of the competition are just a small part of the overall gain from holding the competition. Hopefully the Nightingale will get some benefit from the publicity. It's an excellent pub with a warm welcome and so deserves it. Similarly, the others who encouraged customers to vote will hopefully have got something out of it. With pubs closing at an alarming rate around the country, we've surely got space to recognise a few in the local area. Paul Scully
  • Score: 2

9:42am Wed 7 May 14

I hope not says...

LeslieCB wrote:
Pepperpotter wrote: Yes, how awful having people that actually frequent the pub voting for it.......
.... and have no idea about the other pubs (ie. those who votes for the Robin Hood would not know about the Nightingale). Only a competition where all the pubs in the running are visited by all the judges can be considered to have a truly reliable outcome.
What a blinkered fool and why on earth would you think that a pub customer would only drink in one pub and never any other ? I voted for the pub that I thought was the best, NOT The Hope, but the pub I enjoy the most. The competition was for the customers to vote for their favourite and very well done to the Nightingale for winning it, they deserve it. P.s. I didn't vote for the Nightingale, but you don't see me spitting out my dummy because my favourite didn't win ;-)
[quote][p][bold]LeslieCB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pepperpotter[/bold] wrote: Yes, how awful having people that actually frequent the pub voting for it.......[/p][/quote].... and have no idea about the other pubs (ie. those who votes for the Robin Hood would not know about the Nightingale). Only a competition where all the pubs in the running are visited by all the judges can be considered to have a truly reliable outcome.[/p][/quote]What a blinkered fool and why on earth would you think that a pub customer would only drink in one pub and never any other ? I voted for the pub that I thought was the best, NOT The Hope, but the pub I enjoy the most. The competition was for the customers to vote for their favourite and very well done to the Nightingale for winning it, they deserve it. P.s. I didn't vote for the Nightingale, but you don't see me spitting out my dummy because my favourite didn't win ;-) I hope not
  • Score: 4

10:38pm Wed 14 May 14

sfocata says...

It's fine. I don't think this competition ever claimed to have the stature of CAMRA's award scheme. Anything that gets people interested in proper pubs and what makes them good is surely a positive thing?

Ten years ago, I used to regularly attend the quiz nights at a lovely pub in that area. It kept some great Youngs ales and did good food too. And now? Youngs is no longer a brewery, and the New Town may be gone for ever. These things are precious... hold on to them.

(and yes, the Hope is the best pub in Sutton!)
It's fine. I don't think this competition ever claimed to have the stature of CAMRA's award scheme. Anything that gets people interested in proper pubs and what makes them good is surely a positive thing? Ten years ago, I used to regularly attend the quiz nights at a lovely pub in that area. It kept some great Youngs ales and did good food too. And now? Youngs is no longer a brewery, and the New Town may be gone for ever. These things are precious... hold on to them. (and yes, the Hope is the best pub in Sutton!) sfocata
  • Score: 0

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