Downgrading both Epsom and St Helier Hospitals "makes no sense" say clinicians involved in BSBV review

Downgrading both Epsom and St Helier Hospitals "makes no sense" say clinicians involved in review

Matthew Hopkins, chief exec, has received a letter from three clinicians claiming that attempts have been made to exclude those openly opposed to BSBV

The Better Services Better Value Review

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Downgrading both Epsom and St Helier Hospitals “makes no sense”, clinicians actually involved in the Better Services Better Value (BSBV) review have claimed.

The clinicians, from Epsom Hospital, are members of BSBV’s Clinical Working Groups which look at six areas including maternity, children’s services and acute medicine.

Each working group draws up models for BSBV – based on how services can be improved, developed and protected in the long term.

However, in a letter, sent to the chief executive of the Epsom and St Helier Trust Matthew Hopkins, three clinicians claim that attempts have been made to exclude those openly opposed to BSBV.

It says: “Turning both St Helier and Epsom Hospitals into local care centres will result in local residents having to travel much further to access A&E, maternity and children’s in-patient services, amongst others.

“Centralising services at three hospitals at one end of a geographical area does not make sense if the aim is to deliver better services for all residents.”

In response Mr Hopkins has written to the senior responsible officer (manager) of BSBV, Rachel Tyndall, to air some of the trust’s concerns about the review including risks to the elderly and the transparency of the programme.



The letters in full

Open letter to Matthew Hopkins
BSBVopenletter.doc

Matthew Hopkins' letter to Rachel Tyndall
LettertoRachelTyndall.pdf

Rachel Tyndall's response to Matthew Hopkins
LettertoMatthewHopkins.pdf



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1:29pm Wed 13 Feb 13

EwanRCD says...

Clinicians say no but the bean counters say yes. I wonder who will win!! It certainly won't be us residents of Sutton if we lose the facilities at St Helier
Clinicians say no but the bean counters say yes. I wonder who will win!! It certainly won't be us residents of Sutton if we lose the facilities at St Helier EwanRCD
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4:14pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Michael Pantlin says...

EwanRCD wrote:
Clinicians say no but the bean counters say yes. I wonder who will win!! It certainly won't be us residents of Sutton if we lose the facilities at St Helier
About time we really knew who the top ones are pushing for the hatchet jobs on Epsom & St. Helier District General Hospitals; they need to be named and shamed for such an obviously crazy and disasterous scheme. At least let us know who are not the prime movers: MPs? Trust Board? Faceless NHS London civil servant in their secret cave? Dept of Health?; private health company lobbyists? Cameron? Lansley? Hunt? We need both DGHs to handle the demand and avoid killing travel distances. It took me two hours to get home to Sutton by bus from Epsom Hospital in the afternoon rush while bleeding into my "nappy" from a cold steel up 'em Mr. Mainwaring type biop and Tooting must be near the same in the gridlock traffic even before you start the three hour wait in A&E. Then there's the getting back home when you are kicked out (discharged) home at unsocial hours even though feeling sick as a pig because the tick box staff say your vital signs indicate survival. Don't forget to attend the next public demo this Saturday from Norbiton railway station at 12 noon. Shout about a bit or lose out a lot.
[quote][p][bold]EwanRCD[/bold] wrote: Clinicians say no but the bean counters say yes. I wonder who will win!! It certainly won't be us residents of Sutton if we lose the facilities at St Helier[/p][/quote]About time we really knew who the top ones are pushing for the hatchet jobs on Epsom & St. Helier District General Hospitals; they need to be named and shamed for such an obviously crazy and disasterous scheme. At least let us know who are not the prime movers: MPs? Trust Board? Faceless NHS London civil servant in their secret cave? Dept of Health?; private health company lobbyists? Cameron? Lansley? Hunt? We need both DGHs to handle the demand and avoid killing travel distances. It took me two hours to get home to Sutton by bus from Epsom Hospital in the afternoon rush while bleeding into my "nappy" from a cold steel up 'em Mr. Mainwaring type biop and Tooting must be near the same in the gridlock traffic even before you start the three hour wait in A&E. Then there's the getting back home when you are kicked out (discharged) home at unsocial hours even though feeling sick as a pig because the tick box staff say your vital signs indicate survival. Don't forget to attend the next public demo this Saturday from Norbiton railway station at 12 noon. Shout about a bit or lose out a lot. Michael Pantlin
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3:20am Thu 14 Feb 13

Lincolns Liberty says...

Built in 1936, St. Helier Hospital served a community of only a fraction of the size of the population it is now responsible for, as during this period to date Cheam Hospital, Queen Mary's Hospital, Mitcham, Wandle Valley, and many other local hospitals have closed, which served their local communities with a quick response service.
Today, we have a government who values TIME AND MOTION STUDIES, as well as quick profits from private Enterprise Health shareholders, as against SERVICE FOR THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
The cutbacks on nursing care in the community as well as hospital staff, has been detrimental to the health and safety of patients, as well as the failures that have come to light with the European Economic Community’s right to work and travel anywhere in any country of this community of Europe, where false documentation of qualifications are not checked out until failures in medical practises occur.
Since the modernisation of St. Helier Hospital back in 1975 on its foundations, along with the upgrade of modern furniture and carpets, etc; the public money spent especially for the medical staff, the specialised equipment to treat the ever increasing local community, as well as the vast costs of catering for an everlasting larger area due to the above hospital closures, of which government departments have gained great profits from the sale of the land and buildings.
1. The original children’s ward in F Block was altered to provide a new section to cater for the closure of Queen Mary’s Hospital, which was a first class Hospital for children along with an investigation unit attached to Great Ormand Street as well a friendly environment built and payed for by fundraising and voluntary donations.
The maternity block and renal unit was an additional department added in 1976, as well as the modernisation of the A&E department, as well as new operating theatre’s, all that expense for the local community now to be wasted if this BETTER VALUE BETTER SERVICE team of inexperienced outsiders get their way of reducing and rationing medical health care for the local community who raised many millions of pounds through the Friend of St.Helier Voluntary Services over the years, of which this BSBV team are going to salvage for their own personal gain, as has been done with all the other hospital closures in this local area.
Hospitals are becoming much fewer and further apart, and accident and emergency departments are catering for greater numbers of patients, with much fewer staff and facilities.
Communities must start to realise what is going on in government, your elected representatives are looking for profit as against providing medical attention. Lives are being lost because of greed from profits by private enterprises in health care
Communities will soon have to ask where their family members are going to finish up in an emergency, as we have heard MP's state that they are looking at obtaining medical care and attention from overseas.
It is time to ask all elected officials where they stand with national and local proposals what they are doing to prevent closures, and provide their communities with local medical emergency provisions, as well as safe medical provision within easy reach of their homes.
Remember 1772/3 petrol rationing emergency powers, where if this had happened, then hospital emergency treatment locally could be NON-EXISTENT, and have to rely on those on the scene to act and assist.
How many will die if the present policies of this government and local administrations get their way, of removing local hospital departments, and medical treatment centres.
Remember also that hospitals may only be ten miles or less apart, but, roads and highways are overcrowded, and with many roadwork’s occurring without warning, patients are going to die.
Built in 1936, St. Helier Hospital served a community of only a fraction of the size of the population it is now responsible for, as during this period to date Cheam Hospital, Queen Mary's Hospital, Mitcham, Wandle Valley, and many other local hospitals have closed, which served their local communities with a quick response service. Today, we have a government who values TIME AND MOTION STUDIES, as well as quick profits from private Enterprise Health shareholders, as against SERVICE FOR THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES. The cutbacks on nursing care in the community as well as hospital staff, has been detrimental to the health and safety of patients, as well as the failures that have come to light with the European Economic Community’s right to work and travel anywhere in any country of this community of Europe, where false documentation of qualifications are not checked out until failures in medical practises occur. Since the modernisation of St. Helier Hospital back in 1975 on its foundations, along with the upgrade of modern furniture and carpets, etc; the public money spent especially for the medical staff, the specialised equipment to treat the ever increasing local community, as well as the vast costs of catering for an everlasting larger area due to the above hospital closures, of which government departments have gained great profits from the sale of the land and buildings. 1. The original children’s ward in F Block was altered to provide a new section to cater for the closure of Queen Mary’s Hospital, which was a first class Hospital for children along with an investigation unit attached to Great Ormand Street as well a friendly environment built and payed for by fundraising and voluntary donations. The maternity block and renal unit was an additional department added in 1976, as well as the modernisation of the A&E department, as well as new operating theatre’s, all that expense for the local community now to be wasted if this BETTER VALUE BETTER SERVICE team of inexperienced outsiders get their way of reducing and rationing medical health care for the local community who raised many millions of pounds through the Friend of St.Helier Voluntary Services over the years, of which this BSBV team are going to salvage for their own personal gain, as has been done with all the other hospital closures in this local area. Hospitals are becoming much fewer and further apart, and accident and emergency departments are catering for greater numbers of patients, with much fewer staff and facilities. Communities must start to realise what is going on in government, your elected representatives are looking for profit as against providing medical attention. Lives are being lost because of greed from profits by private enterprises in health care Communities will soon have to ask where their family members are going to finish up in an emergency, as we have heard MP's state that they are looking at obtaining medical care and attention from overseas. It is time to ask all elected officials where they stand with national and local proposals what they are doing to prevent closures, and provide their communities with local medical emergency provisions, as well as safe medical provision within easy reach of their homes. Remember 1772/3 petrol rationing emergency powers, where if this had happened, then hospital emergency treatment locally could be NON-EXISTENT, and have to rely on those on the scene to act and assist. How many will die if the present policies of this government and local administrations get their way, of removing local hospital departments, and medical treatment centres. Remember also that hospitals may only be ten miles or less apart, but, roads and highways are overcrowded, and with many roadwork’s occurring without warning, patients are going to die. Lincolns Liberty
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4:12pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Michael Pantlin says...

I see similaries between the Beeching Report on the railways in the early 60s and the BSBV report. Beeching's was entitled "Reshaping Britain's Railways" and in fact axed about a a third of them, BSBV's reshaping of our NHS seems about shutting A&E Majors and Maternity at District General Hospitals reducing them to building with Cottage Hospital style services. Beeching was shown to have made many mistakes some of which are being put right now. BSBV and the Coalition politicians should learn from Beeching and not make the same mistakes in regard to the NHS.
I see similaries between the Beeching Report on the railways in the early 60s and the BSBV report. Beeching's was entitled "Reshaping Britain's Railways" and in fact axed about a a third of them, BSBV's reshaping of our NHS seems about shutting A&E Majors and Maternity at District General Hospitals reducing them to building with Cottage Hospital style services. Beeching was shown to have made many mistakes some of which are being put right now. BSBV and the Coalition politicians should learn from Beeching and not make the same mistakes in regard to the NHS. Michael Pantlin
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4:15pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Michael Pantlin says...

I've tried repeatedly to get up on the screen the reference above

Open letter to Matthew Hopkins
BSBVopenletter.doc

but Computer Says No and file may be corrupted.
I've tried repeatedly to get up on the screen the reference above Open letter to Matthew Hopkins BSBVopenletter.doc but Computer Says No and file may be corrupted. Michael Pantlin
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