Cannabis factory uncovered in Sutton estate

Sutton Guardian: Sixty plants were found in the factory Sixty plants were found in the factory

A cannabis factory has been uncovered in a dawn raid on a flat on the Collingwood estate in Sutton.

Officers also found two large packets of white powder, believed to be drugs, when they raided the flat in Killick House, Crown Road, yesterday.

Police were alerted to the factory by neighbours who became suspicious about the flat. They raided it shortly after 7.30am and uncovered a cannabis factory made up of 60 plants under a sophisticated heating and lighting system.

Energy company representatives had to be on hand to make the electricity supply, which had been altered to provide the large amounts of energy needed by the factory, safe before officers could begin their investigation.

While searching the flat, police found two large packets of white powder - one in the kitchen, the other in a jacket pocket.

These, along with the cannabis plants and equipment have been seized and are due to be analysed and then destroyed.

PC Dan Sadler said: "This was a good result. It’s really important for residents to contact police if they believe any properties in their area are being used for drugs related purposes - so we can take action and put a stop to it."

Sutton Guardian:

Susan Holbrook, head of community cohesion for Sutton Housing Partnership, which manages homes on behalf of Sutton Council, said:  "We will not tolerate criminal activity taking place in any of our properties and will take swift action, in partnership with the police, to tackle it."

Police say people should contact them if they have suspicions a property near them could be used for drug cultivation.

Tell-tale signs include comings and goings at strange times of the day and night, deliveries of plants and fertiliser, curtains being permanently closed and sweet smells emanating from the property.

If you have suspicions, you can call police on 101 or the charity Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.


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3:44pm Fri 10 Jan 14

CVF420 says...

It is ridiculous that our police force and court systems have to spend their already stretched resources dealing with cannabis. The fact is, cannabis is a safer substance to consume for adults than both alcohol and tobacco, yet every year tens of millions of taxpayer pounds are wasted trying to fight it. Under a legalised scheme, thousands of taxable jobs would be created, which would massively boost our economy. Our police and courts would then be able to focus more of their attention on real crime, such as murder and assault.

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It is ridiculous that our police force and court systems have to spend their already stretched resources dealing with cannabis. The fact is, cannabis is a safer substance to consume for adults than both alcohol and tobacco, yet every year tens of millions of taxpayer pounds are wasted trying to fight it. Under a legalised scheme, thousands of taxable jobs would be created, which would massively boost our economy. Our police and courts would then be able to focus more of their attention on real crime, such as murder and assault. Cannabis Volunteer Force (CVF) CVF Media Team facebook.com/cvf420 CVF420
  • Score: -15

4:11pm Fri 10 Jan 14

cicero35 says...

Drugs kill me people then a.bomb going off ruins lives it is illegal.I would have drug dealers face the death penalty for the distruption they cause families.
Drugs kill me people then a.bomb going off ruins lives it is illegal.I would have drug dealers face the death penalty for the distruption they cause families. cicero35
  • Score: -5

4:54pm Fri 10 Jan 14

GreenBrown says...

The only thing criminal here is the governments policies on drugs and the Police slavishly carrying out the wishes of a corrupt and awful political system.
The only thing criminal here is the governments policies on drugs and the Police slavishly carrying out the wishes of a corrupt and awful political system. GreenBrown
  • Score: -10

5:32pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Dr Martin says...

Why do stoners moan about the law so much
Why do stoners moan about the law so much Dr Martin
  • Score: 10

11:59am Sun 12 Jan 14

GreenBrown says...

Dr Martin wrote:
Why do stoners moan about the law so much
Because they're unfairly persecuted by laws that are so out of date and floored, it's a joke. I'm not one by the way, but the FACTS about cannabis would not lead to it being illegal. Is it illegal because its bad for you, like alcohol and cigarettes or is it illegal because a country full of people smoking it might just decide they've had enough of playing the ruling elites game. To be fair, the situation is worse now due to the stronger stuff being readily available. A situation we got into because of the crackdown on imports of the weaker, safer stuff from abroad. Once readily available and now hard to find. So in fact the current problem we have of people smoking this strong stuff that may not be too good for them, because of the strength and the dangerous stuff these gangs spray on it to make it weightier, this problem was caused by the government and ultimately the Police. Good work!
[quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: Why do stoners moan about the law so much[/p][/quote]Because they're unfairly persecuted by laws that are so out of date and floored, it's a joke. I'm not one by the way, but the FACTS about cannabis would not lead to it being illegal. Is it illegal because its bad for you, like alcohol and cigarettes or is it illegal because a country full of people smoking it might just decide they've had enough of playing the ruling elites game. To be fair, the situation is worse now due to the stronger stuff being readily available. A situation we got into because of the crackdown on imports of the weaker, safer stuff from abroad. Once readily available and now hard to find. So in fact the current problem we have of people smoking this strong stuff that may not be too good for them, because of the strength and the dangerous stuff these gangs spray on it to make it weightier, this problem was caused by the government and ultimately the Police. Good work! GreenBrown
  • Score: -10

6:36pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Dr Martin says...

As its as bad for your mental health as Alcohol I says that makes it a bad drug, cannabis usage is falling like most illicit drugs.
As its as bad for your mental health as Alcohol I says that makes it a bad drug, cannabis usage is falling like most illicit drugs. Dr Martin
  • Score: 2

11:13pm Sun 12 Jan 14

GreenBrown says...

Dr Martin wrote:
As its as bad for your mental health as Alcohol I says that makes it a bad drug, cannabis usage is falling like most illicit drugs.
The strong stuff they now smoke, yes, probably not too good for your mental health, but like most drugs, it really depends on how it effects individuals. When I was younger I knew many people that smoked cannabis and generally they all smoked the same stuff and amounts. Most of them didn't ever have a problem with it, while one or two got effected quite badly from it. It's the same with alcohol, some people get out of control, some people become alcoholics, some can just have a drink and leave it at that. Cigarettes, for most people are addictive, alcohol less so and cannabis isn't really addictive at all. Making cannabis illegal, but not cigarettes and alcohol makes no sense. A glass of wine with your meal is not bad for you and smoking some cannabis to relax at the end of a hard day isn't bad for you either. To say that alcohol is bad for your mental health is quite absurd. Too much alcohol can of course be bad for you, but then too much of anything is bad for you.
[quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: As its as bad for your mental health as Alcohol I says that makes it a bad drug, cannabis usage is falling like most illicit drugs.[/p][/quote]The strong stuff they now smoke, yes, probably not too good for your mental health, but like most drugs, it really depends on how it effects individuals. When I was younger I knew many people that smoked cannabis and generally they all smoked the same stuff and amounts. Most of them didn't ever have a problem with it, while one or two got effected quite badly from it. It's the same with alcohol, some people get out of control, some people become alcoholics, some can just have a drink and leave it at that. Cigarettes, for most people are addictive, alcohol less so and cannabis isn't really addictive at all. Making cannabis illegal, but not cigarettes and alcohol makes no sense. A glass of wine with your meal is not bad for you and smoking some cannabis to relax at the end of a hard day isn't bad for you either. To say that alcohol is bad for your mental health is quite absurd. Too much alcohol can of course be bad for you, but then too much of anything is bad for you. GreenBrown
  • Score: -10

11:12am Mon 13 Jan 14

Dr Martin says...

GreenBrown wrote:
Dr Martin wrote:
As its as bad for your mental health as Alcohol I says that makes it a bad drug, cannabis usage is falling like most illicit drugs.
The strong stuff they now smoke, yes, probably not too good for your mental health, but like most drugs, it really depends on how it effects individuals. When I was younger I knew many people that smoked cannabis and generally they all smoked the same stuff and amounts. Most of them didn't ever have a problem with it, while one or two got effected quite badly from it. It's the same with alcohol, some people get out of control, some people become alcoholics, some can just have a drink and leave it at that. Cigarettes, for most people are addictive, alcohol less so and cannabis isn't really addictive at all. Making cannabis illegal, but not cigarettes and alcohol makes no sense. A glass of wine with your meal is not bad for you and smoking some cannabis to relax at the end of a hard day isn't bad for you either. To say that alcohol is bad for your mental health is quite absurd. Too much alcohol can of course be bad for you, but then too much of anything is bad for you.
I think you need to research into the effects of Alcohol on a persons mental health before you state that is "quite absurd"

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Long-term_e
ffects_of_alcohol#Me
ntal_health_effects
[quote][p][bold]GreenBrown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: As its as bad for your mental health as Alcohol I says that makes it a bad drug, cannabis usage is falling like most illicit drugs.[/p][/quote]The strong stuff they now smoke, yes, probably not too good for your mental health, but like most drugs, it really depends on how it effects individuals. When I was younger I knew many people that smoked cannabis and generally they all smoked the same stuff and amounts. Most of them didn't ever have a problem with it, while one or two got effected quite badly from it. It's the same with alcohol, some people get out of control, some people become alcoholics, some can just have a drink and leave it at that. Cigarettes, for most people are addictive, alcohol less so and cannabis isn't really addictive at all. Making cannabis illegal, but not cigarettes and alcohol makes no sense. A glass of wine with your meal is not bad for you and smoking some cannabis to relax at the end of a hard day isn't bad for you either. To say that alcohol is bad for your mental health is quite absurd. Too much alcohol can of course be bad for you, but then too much of anything is bad for you.[/p][/quote]I think you need to research into the effects of Alcohol on a persons mental health before you state that is "quite absurd" http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Long-term_e ffects_of_alcohol#Me ntal_health_effects Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

6:34pm Mon 13 Jan 14

GreenBrown says...

How is having a glass of wine with my evening meal bad for my mental health?
How is having a glass of wine with my evening meal bad for my mental health? GreenBrown
  • Score: -5

6:49pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Dr Martin says...

Never said it was you said and I quote "To say that alcohol is bad for your mental health is quite absurd"
Never said it was you said and I quote "To say that alcohol is bad for your mental health is quite absurd" Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

7:26pm Mon 13 Jan 14

GreenBrown says...

Your original comment stated that alcohol was as bad for your mental health as cannabis. That was a sweeping statement without any parameters. As you didn't specify 'a safe amount to drink' I assumed you felt that way about alcohol consumption full stop. In that context I felt your position was absurd. I agree that long term alcohol abuse is bad for your mental health as is most other vices taken to the extreme, so to speak. Making drug users criminals has never and will never help the situation. This war on drugs has been going on for years and it's not going to end while the government can, for example, ask for recommendations about drugs and drug policy from experts and then sack those who come back with an opinion they don't like. The drug laws in this country are a nonsense and don't really work. I might be wrong, but what we have now is definitely wrong because it isn't working and we have years of data to prove that.
Your original comment stated that alcohol was as bad for your mental health as cannabis. That was a sweeping statement without any parameters. As you didn't specify 'a safe amount to drink' I assumed you felt that way about alcohol consumption full stop. In that context I felt your position was absurd. I agree that long term alcohol abuse is bad for your mental health as is most other vices taken to the extreme, so to speak. Making drug users criminals has never and will never help the situation. This war on drugs has been going on for years and it's not going to end while the government can, for example, ask for recommendations about drugs and drug policy from experts and then sack those who come back with an opinion they don't like. The drug laws in this country are a nonsense and don't really work. I might be wrong, but what we have now is definitely wrong because it isn't working and we have years of data to prove that. GreenBrown
  • Score: -5

9:03pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Dr Martin says...

GreenBrown wrote:
Your original comment stated that alcohol was as bad for your mental health as cannabis. That was a sweeping statement without any parameters. As you didn't specify 'a safe amount to drink' I assumed you felt that way about alcohol consumption full stop. In that context I felt your position was absurd. I agree that long term alcohol abuse is bad for your mental health as is most other vices taken to the extreme, so to speak. Making drug users criminals has never and will never help the situation. This war on drugs has been going on for years and it's not going to end while the government can, for example, ask for recommendations about drugs and drug policy from experts and then sack those who come back with an opinion they don't like. The drug laws in this country are a nonsense and don't really work. I might be wrong, but what we have now is definitely wrong because it isn't working and we have years of data to prove that.
Professor Nutt the guy who was not happy with just providing data he wanted to change the laws of the land, now a messiah of the pro pot alliance

The drug laws of this country do work (but could work better) most illicit substance usage is either falling or stabilised education and health policies have helped in this respect
[quote][p][bold]GreenBrown[/bold] wrote: Your original comment stated that alcohol was as bad for your mental health as cannabis. That was a sweeping statement without any parameters. As you didn't specify 'a safe amount to drink' I assumed you felt that way about alcohol consumption full stop. In that context I felt your position was absurd. I agree that long term alcohol abuse is bad for your mental health as is most other vices taken to the extreme, so to speak. Making drug users criminals has never and will never help the situation. This war on drugs has been going on for years and it's not going to end while the government can, for example, ask for recommendations about drugs and drug policy from experts and then sack those who come back with an opinion they don't like. The drug laws in this country are a nonsense and don't really work. I might be wrong, but what we have now is definitely wrong because it isn't working and we have years of data to prove that.[/p][/quote]Professor Nutt the guy who was not happy with just providing data he wanted to change the laws of the land, now a messiah of the pro pot alliance The drug laws of this country do work (but could work better) most illicit substance usage is either falling or stabilised education and health policies have helped in this respect Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

9:04pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Dr Martin says...

GreenBrown wrote:
Your original comment stated that alcohol was as bad for your mental health as cannabis. That was a sweeping statement without any parameters. As you didn't specify 'a safe amount to drink' I assumed you felt that way about alcohol consumption full stop. In that context I felt your position was absurd. I agree that long term alcohol abuse is bad for your mental health as is most other vices taken to the extreme, so to speak. Making drug users criminals has never and will never help the situation. This war on drugs has been going on for years and it's not going to end while the government can, for example, ask for recommendations about drugs and drug policy from experts and then sack those who come back with an opinion they don't like. The drug laws in this country are a nonsense and don't really work. I might be wrong, but what we have now is definitely wrong because it isn't working and we have years of data to prove that.
Professor Nutt the guy who was not happy with just providing data he wanted to change the laws of the land, now a messiah of the pro pot alliance

The drug laws of this country do work (but could work better) most illicit substance usage is either falling or stabilised improved education and health policies have helped in this respect
[quote][p][bold]GreenBrown[/bold] wrote: Your original comment stated that alcohol was as bad for your mental health as cannabis. That was a sweeping statement without any parameters. As you didn't specify 'a safe amount to drink' I assumed you felt that way about alcohol consumption full stop. In that context I felt your position was absurd. I agree that long term alcohol abuse is bad for your mental health as is most other vices taken to the extreme, so to speak. Making drug users criminals has never and will never help the situation. This war on drugs has been going on for years and it's not going to end while the government can, for example, ask for recommendations about drugs and drug policy from experts and then sack those who come back with an opinion they don't like. The drug laws in this country are a nonsense and don't really work. I might be wrong, but what we have now is definitely wrong because it isn't working and we have years of data to prove that.[/p][/quote]Professor Nutt the guy who was not happy with just providing data he wanted to change the laws of the land, now a messiah of the pro pot alliance The drug laws of this country do work (but could work better) most illicit substance usage is either falling or stabilised improved education and health policies have helped in this respect Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

10:21pm Mon 13 Jan 14

GreenBrown says...

"Professor Nutt the guy who was not happy with just providing data he wanted to change the laws of the land, now a messiah of the pro pot alliance"

That's not really what happened though is it. He dared to speak his mind and I'd prefer to listen to his opinion than that of Gordon Brown, the man who sacked him. If he's gone on to speak for what he believes in then that shows some integrity. Not sure his former paymasters have much of that.

"The drug laws of this country do work (but could work better) most illicit substance usage is either falling or stabilised improved education and health policies have helped in this respect"

You don't seem to have any evidence to prove that the drug laws are working or that drug use is falling. I think your find that the drug problem we have in this country is far worse than it has ever been. There are many more, easily available drugs out there now and at a younger age, kids are far more worldly in their experiences than say 20 years ago. The time will come in this country when cannabis, if not most drugs will be legal, it might just be that we have to wait for the older, voting generation to die off. In America we are seeing a more relaxed attitude towards cannabis, its even legal in some states now and we always end up following them good and bad eventually. The fact that people suffering from awful, painful conditions have to break the law just to get some relief should be enough to shame even the most closed minded hard liner. Up until fairly recently, if you wanted to see a country that had progressive laws that worked and a better attitude towards things, then The Netherlands was the country to watch. Sadly, the EU has infected even that bastion of common sense now and their laws are starting to be curtailed. The war on drugs will never be won, but common sense may well win out someday.
"Professor Nutt the guy who was not happy with just providing data he wanted to change the laws of the land, now a messiah of the pro pot alliance" That's not really what happened though is it. He dared to speak his mind and I'd prefer to listen to his opinion than that of Gordon Brown, the man who sacked him. If he's gone on to speak for what he believes in then that shows some integrity. Not sure his former paymasters have much of that. "The drug laws of this country do work (but could work better) most illicit substance usage is either falling or stabilised improved education and health policies have helped in this respect" You don't seem to have any evidence to prove that the drug laws are working or that drug use is falling. I think your find that the drug problem we have in this country is far worse than it has ever been. There are many more, easily available drugs out there now and at a younger age, kids are far more worldly in their experiences than say 20 years ago. The time will come in this country when cannabis, if not most drugs will be legal, it might just be that we have to wait for the older, voting generation to die off. In America we are seeing a more relaxed attitude towards cannabis, its even legal in some states now and we always end up following them good and bad eventually. The fact that people suffering from awful, painful conditions have to break the law just to get some relief should be enough to shame even the most closed minded hard liner. Up until fairly recently, if you wanted to see a country that had progressive laws that worked and a better attitude towards things, then The Netherlands was the country to watch. Sadly, the EU has infected even that bastion of common sense now and their laws are starting to be curtailed. The war on drugs will never be won, but common sense may well win out someday. GreenBrown
  • Score: -5

11:16pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Dr Martin says...

I could be difficult and ask for your evidence of the drug laws are not working, but since you asked

https://www.gov.uk/g
overnment/uploads/sy
stem/uploads/attachm
ent_data/file/147938
/drugs-misuse-dec-11
12-pdf.pdf

Shows that most drugs have stabilised or fallen with only methadone and powder cocaine having increased, notably cannabis usage is falling

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-21689709

Showing heroin and crack users falling
I think kids of today are getting wise to illicit drugs and understand that being a stoner or a junkie is not going to equal a successful or lengthy adulthood once the oldies who have grown up on low THC wacky baccy generation die off and we might see the end of the silly legalise pro pot (and other illicit drugs) nonsense.

I agree the war on drugs can never be won but you could say that for any illegal activity, speeding, burglary, assault etc etc,
I could be difficult and ask for your evidence of the drug laws are not working, but since you asked https://www.gov.uk/g overnment/uploads/sy stem/uploads/attachm ent_data/file/147938 /drugs-misuse-dec-11 12-pdf.pdf Shows that most drugs have stabilised or fallen with only methadone and powder cocaine having increased, notably cannabis usage is falling http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-21689709 Showing heroin and crack users falling I think kids of today are getting wise to illicit drugs and understand that being a stoner or a junkie is not going to equal a successful or lengthy adulthood once the oldies who have grown up on low THC wacky baccy generation die off and we might see the end of the silly legalise pro pot (and other illicit drugs) nonsense. I agree the war on drugs can never be won but you could say that for any illegal activity, speeding, burglary, assault etc etc, Dr Martin
  • Score: 2

12:15am Tue 14 Jan 14

GreenBrown says...

"I could be difficult and ask for your evidence of the drug laws are not working,"

My evidence is the fact that we still have a 'drug problem' (as you see it) and that the police are increasingly dealing with the sort of set up that this story reports, in bigger numbers than ever before.

If you trust and believe government figures then that says a lot about you, but one thing to note when dealing with figures is that people breaking the law don't tend to admit to it when asked by the authorities. Its like trusting the census to give a clear picture of immigration levels or the number of inhabitants living in a house etc. If your here illegally or you have people living in your house or in an out building in the back garden, but you don't tell the government so you get your 25% council tax reduction, you are not going to be filling out the forms with that information. Every time the government or the Police open their mouths all they have to say is that this, that or the other is falling if it's something negative or rising if it's something positive. Crime's been falling for so many years now that really this country should be some sort of utopia. Is crime falling or have they just stopped including certain activities in their figures. Have people stopped even bothering to call the police in some circumstances. Are less kids smoking dope or do they just let them of with a warning which doesn't show up in the figures. I've known a few coppers over the years and they've implied that they can't be bothered with a little bit of cannabis for personal use. It's all smoke and mirrors and the gullible majority get fooled time and again.
"I could be difficult and ask for your evidence of the drug laws are not working," My evidence is the fact that we still have a 'drug problem' (as you see it) and that the police are increasingly dealing with the sort of set up that this story reports, in bigger numbers than ever before. If you trust and believe government figures then that says a lot about you, but one thing to note when dealing with figures is that people breaking the law don't tend to admit to it when asked by the authorities. Its like trusting the census to give a clear picture of immigration levels or the number of inhabitants living in a house etc. If your here illegally or you have people living in your house or in an out building in the back garden, but you don't tell the government so you get your 25% council tax reduction, you are not going to be filling out the forms with that information. Every time the government or the Police open their mouths all they have to say is that this, that or the other is falling if it's something negative or rising if it's something positive. Crime's been falling for so many years now that really this country should be some sort of utopia. Is crime falling or have they just stopped including certain activities in their figures. Have people stopped even bothering to call the police in some circumstances. Are less kids smoking dope or do they just let them of with a warning which doesn't show up in the figures. I've known a few coppers over the years and they've implied that they can't be bothered with a little bit of cannabis for personal use. It's all smoke and mirrors and the gullible majority get fooled time and again. GreenBrown
  • Score: -5

9:29am Tue 14 Jan 14

Dr Martin says...

There may be reasons the police are busting more cannabis farms /factories for example, criminals are going for smaller farms instead of larger ones knowing that some will be found, general public are more knowledgeable as to regards to cannabis and helping the police when they suspect cannabis growing nearby and maybe the police are actually taking cannabis more seriously

I was hoping you would come up with some debate winning evidence that drug use is rising ….no it’s just your anti government view (paranoia?) and you have spoken to a few coppers, although it’s a shame they don’t bust more people for personal use , that’s where I think the criminal justice system could be more helpful to the police
There may be reasons the police are busting more cannabis farms /factories for example, criminals are going for smaller farms instead of larger ones knowing that some will be found, general public are more knowledgeable as to regards to cannabis and helping the police when they suspect cannabis growing nearby and maybe the police are actually taking cannabis more seriously I was hoping you would come up with some debate winning evidence that drug use is rising ….no it’s just your anti government view (paranoia?) and you have spoken to a few coppers, although it’s a shame they don’t bust more people for personal use , that’s where I think the criminal justice system could be more helpful to the police Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

5:59pm Tue 14 Jan 14

GreenBrown says...

I'm done ...your an idiot.
I'm done ...your an idiot. GreenBrown
  • Score: -5

7:11pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Dr Martin says...

GreenBrown wrote:
I'm done ...your an idiot.
Thank you very much, although I don't expect much else from a pro pot person

I am definitely not done.........
[quote][p][bold]GreenBrown[/bold] wrote: I'm done ...your an idiot.[/p][/quote]Thank you very much, although I don't expect much else from a pro pot person I am definitely not done......... Dr Martin
  • Score: 2

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