Council to dump 11 tonnes of litter in Sutton High Street

Sutton Guardian: The publicity stunt will highlight how much people litter. The publicity stunt will highlight how much people litter.

More than 10 tonnes of litter is due to be dumped in the town centre on Thursday.

Usually Sutton Council would be tasked with clearing such a mess up - but in this case it is the council putting it there.

The idea is a stunt to encourage people not to drop litter.

The 11 tonnes of rubbish being heaped outside Waterstone's in Sutton High Street is being put there to illustrate the amount of  litter dropped in Sutton every day.

As well as the eye-catching mound of rubbish, council litter pickers, councillors and other staff will be on hand to tell people why they should not drop litter and explain how the £4m it spends each year on removing waste from the streets could be better spent.

The litter mound will be in the High Street from 9.30am to 3.30pm.

 

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3:23pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Bill UKIP C&W says...

You correctly describe this a "stunt". I have asked for the council to tell us what the cost of this stunt is, but have yet to receive a reply.

They tell me that some £4 million is spent on clearing up street litter including fly tipping, but again this has not been broken down.

For example does it include the cost of removal of rubbish placed in bins, does include the capital cost of the automatic street cleaners? Would a dramatic reduction mean disposal of these community assets?

Surely the cost of fly tipping should not be included in a 'street littering' campaign?

It just seems such a waste of money when all the council are wanting to achieve is a "hope" to raise awareness, surely telling residents how much is paid in compulsory EU Landfill taxes would be more beneficial?

Bill Main-Ian
UKIP PPC for
Carshalton & Wallington
You correctly describe this a "stunt". I have asked for the council to tell us what the cost of this stunt is, but have yet to receive a reply. They tell me that some £4 million is spent on clearing up street litter including fly tipping, but again this has not been broken down. For example does it include the cost of removal of rubbish placed in bins, does include the capital cost of the automatic street cleaners? Would a dramatic reduction mean disposal of these community assets? Surely the cost of fly tipping should not be included in a 'street littering' campaign? It just seems such a waste of money when all the council are wanting to achieve is a "hope" to raise awareness, surely telling residents how much is paid in compulsory EU Landfill taxes would be more beneficial? Bill Main-Ian UKIP PPC for Carshalton & Wallington Bill UKIP C&W
  • Score: 0

3:37pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Marie from Sutton says...

How about McDonald having their own bin. Their litter is thrown all over the high street.
Disgraceful !
How about McDonald having their own bin. Their litter is thrown all over the high street. Disgraceful ! Marie from Sutton
  • Score: 15

3:46pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Havana Club says...

Good idea. Only shame is that they are doing it on a Thursday and not a Saturday when there must be 2-3x footfall. Changing habits is a long-term game, and this means involving more than just polite 'Please don't...' posters. It'll obviously get the 'how much will this cost us...!!!' brigade out in the message columns, but they are so predictable that they are to be expected in any SG story that mentions the words 'Council' and 'Spend'. They are like some sort of automated Botnet. And they are also the very same people who would moan if nothing was getting done. A stunt, certainly, but It will be a talking point, I'm sure, if done well.
Good idea. Only shame is that they are doing it on a Thursday and not a Saturday when there must be 2-3x footfall. Changing habits is a long-term game, and this means involving more than just polite 'Please don't...' posters. It'll obviously get the 'how much will this cost us...!!!' brigade out in the message columns, but they are so predictable that they are to be expected in any SG story that mentions the words 'Council' and 'Spend'. They are like some sort of automated Botnet. And they are also the very same people who would moan if nothing was getting done. A stunt, certainly, but It will be a talking point, I'm sure, if done well. Havana Club
  • Score: 3

3:52pm Tue 4 Feb 14

CPN says...

Agreed Havana club - I think it is an inventive idea. It will be interesting to see people's reactions on Thursday, then maybe we can tell how effective it will be.
Agreed Havana club - I think it is an inventive idea. It will be interesting to see people's reactions on Thursday, then maybe we can tell how effective it will be. CPN
  • Score: 1

4:12pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Niki R says...

Surely educating people doesn't have to come with this sort of nonsense? I wouldn't be best pleased if I was trying to shop in Waterstone's, or work there... more PR stunts from the Council, who busy themselves with this stuff when people are suffering with the Bedroom Tax and cuts to local services.
Surely educating people doesn't have to come with this sort of nonsense? I wouldn't be best pleased if I was trying to shop in Waterstone's, or work there... more PR stunts from the Council, who busy themselves with this stuff when people are suffering with the Bedroom Tax and cuts to local services. Niki R
  • Score: 8

4:16pm Tue 4 Feb 14

whysaythat says...

Bill UKIP C&W wrote:
You correctly describe this a "stunt". I have asked for the council to tell us what the cost of this stunt is, but have yet to receive a reply.

They tell me that some £4 million is spent on clearing up street litter including fly tipping, but again this has not been broken down.

For example does it include the cost of removal of rubbish placed in bins, does include the capital cost of the automatic street cleaners? Would a dramatic reduction mean disposal of these community assets?

Surely the cost of fly tipping should not be included in a 'street littering' campaign?

It just seems such a waste of money when all the council are wanting to achieve is a "hope" to raise awareness, surely telling residents how much is paid in compulsory EU Landfill taxes would be more beneficial?

Bill Main-Ian
UKIP PPC for
Carshalton & Wallington
Littering, fly tipping, dog fouling all are unsightly. I think this is worthwhile campaign. The emptying of litter bins is bound to come out of a street cleaning budget. If everyone placed waste in a litter bin then there wouldn't be litter strewn all over the streets!!. If fly tipping is under the street cleansin umbrella then it is bound to be out of thecsame budget. Suggest you check the DEFRA website, a single refuse sack is fly tipping. UKIP= All the gear but no idea!!!
[quote][p][bold]Bill UKIP C&W[/bold] wrote: You correctly describe this a "stunt". I have asked for the council to tell us what the cost of this stunt is, but have yet to receive a reply. They tell me that some £4 million is spent on clearing up street litter including fly tipping, but again this has not been broken down. For example does it include the cost of removal of rubbish placed in bins, does include the capital cost of the automatic street cleaners? Would a dramatic reduction mean disposal of these community assets? Surely the cost of fly tipping should not be included in a 'street littering' campaign? It just seems such a waste of money when all the council are wanting to achieve is a "hope" to raise awareness, surely telling residents how much is paid in compulsory EU Landfill taxes would be more beneficial? Bill Main-Ian UKIP PPC for Carshalton & Wallington[/p][/quote]Littering, fly tipping, dog fouling all are unsightly. I think this is worthwhile campaign. The emptying of litter bins is bound to come out of a street cleaning budget. If everyone placed waste in a litter bin then there wouldn't be litter strewn all over the streets!!. If fly tipping is under the street cleansin umbrella then it is bound to be out of thecsame budget. Suggest you check the DEFRA website, a single refuse sack is fly tipping. UKIP= All the gear but no idea!!! whysaythat
  • Score: 4

4:18pm Tue 4 Feb 14

dave.artist says...

How about dumping the Libdumbs in the next council election
How about dumping the Libdumbs in the next council election dave.artist
  • Score: 17

4:21pm Tue 4 Feb 14

whysaythat says...

Bill UKIP C&W wrote:
You correctly describe this a "stunt". I have asked for the council to tell us what the cost of this stunt is, but have yet to receive a reply.

They tell me that some £4 million is spent on clearing up street litter including fly tipping, but again this has not been broken down.

For example does it include the cost of removal of rubbish placed in bins, does include the capital cost of the automatic street cleaners? Would a dramatic reduction mean disposal of these community assets?

Surely the cost of fly tipping should not be included in a 'street littering' campaign?

It just seems such a waste of money when all the council are wanting to achieve is a "hope" to raise awareness, surely telling residents how much is paid in compulsory EU Landfill taxes would be more beneficial?

Bill Main-Ian
UKIP PPC for
Carshalton & Wallington
If you want to find costings and haven't received the answer then go through the Freedom of Information route. Mind you after the classic quotes from UKIP I would imagine the litter is the same as the recent floods...... all down to people being gay?!?!?!?! Joke of a party.
[quote][p][bold]Bill UKIP C&W[/bold] wrote: You correctly describe this a "stunt". I have asked for the council to tell us what the cost of this stunt is, but have yet to receive a reply. They tell me that some £4 million is spent on clearing up street litter including fly tipping, but again this has not been broken down. For example does it include the cost of removal of rubbish placed in bins, does include the capital cost of the automatic street cleaners? Would a dramatic reduction mean disposal of these community assets? Surely the cost of fly tipping should not be included in a 'street littering' campaign? It just seems such a waste of money when all the council are wanting to achieve is a "hope" to raise awareness, surely telling residents how much is paid in compulsory EU Landfill taxes would be more beneficial? Bill Main-Ian UKIP PPC for Carshalton & Wallington[/p][/quote]If you want to find costings and haven't received the answer then go through the Freedom of Information route. Mind you after the classic quotes from UKIP I would imagine the litter is the same as the recent floods...... all down to people being gay?!?!?!?! Joke of a party. whysaythat
  • Score: 7

4:25pm Tue 4 Feb 14

whysaythat says...

Niki R wrote:
Surely educating people doesn't have to come with this sort of nonsense? I wouldn't be best pleased if I was trying to shop in Waterstone's, or work there... more PR stunts from the Council, who busy themselves with this stuff when people are suffering with the Bedroom Tax and cuts to local services.
Surely the point is to highlight the amount of money spent on collecting and disposing of the waste, and giving us an idea of what 11 tonnes of waste looks like. Then showing how this money could be spent on preventing further cuts if we all did our bit??
[quote][p][bold]Niki R[/bold] wrote: Surely educating people doesn't have to come with this sort of nonsense? I wouldn't be best pleased if I was trying to shop in Waterstone's, or work there... more PR stunts from the Council, who busy themselves with this stuff when people are suffering with the Bedroom Tax and cuts to local services.[/p][/quote]Surely the point is to highlight the amount of money spent on collecting and disposing of the waste, and giving us an idea of what 11 tonnes of waste looks like. Then showing how this money could be spent on preventing further cuts if we all did our bit?? whysaythat
  • Score: 3

4:31pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Niki R says...

whysaythat wrote:
Niki R wrote:
Surely educating people doesn't have to come with this sort of nonsense? I wouldn't be best pleased if I was trying to shop in Waterstone's, or work there... more PR stunts from the Council, who busy themselves with this stuff when people are suffering with the Bedroom Tax and cuts to local services.
Surely the point is to highlight the amount of money spent on collecting and disposing of the waste, and giving us an idea of what 11 tonnes of waste looks like. Then showing how this money could be spent on preventing further cuts if we all did our bit??
You think this mob would really use money spent on litter collection on deserving causes? More likely that they'd use it for more trips to tour incinerators. I won't be lectured on waste by a Council whose answer to it is 'burn it.'
[quote][p][bold]whysaythat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Niki R[/bold] wrote: Surely educating people doesn't have to come with this sort of nonsense? I wouldn't be best pleased if I was trying to shop in Waterstone's, or work there... more PR stunts from the Council, who busy themselves with this stuff when people are suffering with the Bedroom Tax and cuts to local services.[/p][/quote]Surely the point is to highlight the amount of money spent on collecting and disposing of the waste, and giving us an idea of what 11 tonnes of waste looks like. Then showing how this money could be spent on preventing further cuts if we all did our bit??[/p][/quote]You think this mob would really use money spent on litter collection on deserving causes? More likely that they'd use it for more trips to tour incinerators. I won't be lectured on waste by a Council whose answer to it is 'burn it.' Niki R
  • Score: 7

4:35pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Binsanity says...

Let's get this perfectly clear. Sutton Council are going to dump 10 or is it 11 tons of rubbish to show us what discarded fast food containers and general litter looks like. We have laws in place to deal with these matters but obviously we are not able to police them, why I wonder. A stunt of this kind is a ridiculous statement. The next few months will see an increase in street cleaning an increase in policing and an increase in gimmickry. Just about everything to get them elected, please don't be fooled by any of them again. These three supposedly main parties, are past their sell by date it's time for a change, we are fooled no more.
Let's get this perfectly clear. Sutton Council are going to dump 10 or is it 11 tons of rubbish to show us what discarded fast food containers and general litter looks like. We have laws in place to deal with these matters but obviously we are not able to police them, why I wonder. A stunt of this kind is a ridiculous statement. The next few months will see an increase in street cleaning an increase in policing and an increase in gimmickry. Just about everything to get them elected, please don't be fooled by any of them again. These three supposedly main parties, are past their sell by date it's time for a change, we are fooled no more. Binsanity
  • Score: 9

4:56pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Giles C says...

Hopefully they will dump it over the wooden animals that are now unrecognisable after 3 years and then when they clear it they can clear those as well...
This council never ceases to amaze me with their waste of OUR money..
Yet I'm sure they will get back in..there are enough lemmings like Resident Tony who will vote for them.
Hopefully they will dump it over the wooden animals that are now unrecognisable after 3 years and then when they clear it they can clear those as well... This council never ceases to amaze me with their waste of OUR money.. Yet I'm sure they will get back in..there are enough lemmings like Resident Tony who will vote for them. Giles C
  • Score: 14

5:10pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Giles C says...

Havana Club wrote:
Good idea. Only shame is that they are doing it on a Thursday and not a Saturday when there must be 2-3x footfall. Changing habits is a long-term game, and this means involving more than just polite 'Please don't...' posters. It'll obviously get the 'how much will this cost us...!!!' brigade out in the message columns, but they are so predictable that they are to be expected in any SG story that mentions the words 'Council' and 'Spend'. They are like some sort of automated Botnet. And they are also the very same people who would moan if nothing was getting done. A stunt, certainly, but It will be a talking point, I'm sure, if done well.
I remember when they did up the high street and had a travelling circus troupe from France in as a stunt..
That only cost the taxpayers £3 mill for that crock of crud and it's legacy..
They are only doing this for what they perceive as political advantage..nothing else..hey couldn't they give this money to the parts of the voluntary sector that LBS are now stopping funding.
All thanks to Jill "Swampy" Whitehead
[quote][p][bold]Havana Club[/bold] wrote: Good idea. Only shame is that they are doing it on a Thursday and not a Saturday when there must be 2-3x footfall. Changing habits is a long-term game, and this means involving more than just polite 'Please don't...' posters. It'll obviously get the 'how much will this cost us...!!!' brigade out in the message columns, but they are so predictable that they are to be expected in any SG story that mentions the words 'Council' and 'Spend'. They are like some sort of automated Botnet. And they are also the very same people who would moan if nothing was getting done. A stunt, certainly, but It will be a talking point, I'm sure, if done well.[/p][/quote]I remember when they did up the high street and had a travelling circus troupe from France in as a stunt.. That only cost the taxpayers £3 mill for that crock of crud and it's legacy.. They are only doing this for what they perceive as political advantage..nothing else..hey couldn't they give this money to the parts of the voluntary sector that LBS are now stopping funding. All thanks to Jill "Swampy" Whitehead Giles C
  • Score: 12

5:13pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Bill UKIP C&W says...

It is a great concern to me, and other residents in the London Borough of Sutton, that in these time of austerity that money is spent wisely.

I have no doubt the cost of this stunt is actually quite small in the greater scheme of things but we should be on guard to all unnecessary costs.

I also will take great notice of whether our two MP's, along with a goodly number of local councillors, will be on hand for the obvious picture opportunity that will surely result. Goodness is there an election soon???? !!!

Residents should be in no doubt that this LibDem administration will have delayed major funding issues to past the date of the local elections in May this year. Just remember we in UKIP are wise to the prolific spending that a LibDem council has been allowed to get away with.

Finally, to those of you whose vitriol is directed to us as a party, I find your extremist views and method to silence free speech very worrying. I hope the sensible electorate see through what you are trying to do to democracy.

Bill Main-Ian

UKIP PPC
Carshalton & Wallington
It is a great concern to me, and other residents in the London Borough of Sutton, that in these time of austerity that money is spent wisely. I have no doubt the cost of this stunt is actually quite small in the greater scheme of things but we should be on guard to all unnecessary costs. I also will take great notice of whether our two MP's, along with a goodly number of local councillors, will be on hand for the obvious picture opportunity that will surely result. Goodness is there an election soon???? !!! Residents should be in no doubt that this LibDem administration will have delayed major funding issues to past the date of the local elections in May this year. Just remember we in UKIP are wise to the prolific spending that a LibDem council has been allowed to get away with. Finally, to those of you whose vitriol is directed to us as a party, I find your extremist views and method to silence free speech very worrying. I hope the sensible electorate see through what you are trying to do to democracy. Bill Main-Ian UKIP PPC Carshalton & Wallington Bill UKIP C&W
  • Score: 2

5:21pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Binsanity says...

whysaythat wrote:
Bill UKIP C&W wrote:
You correctly describe this a "stunt". I have asked for the council to tell us what the cost of this stunt is, but have yet to receive a reply.

They tell me that some £4 million is spent on clearing up street litter including fly tipping, but again this has not been broken down.

For example does it include the cost of removal of rubbish placed in bins, does include the capital cost of the automatic street cleaners? Would a dramatic reduction mean disposal of these community assets?

Surely the cost of fly tipping should not be included in a 'street littering' campaign?

It just seems such a waste of money when all the council are wanting to achieve is a "hope" to raise awareness, surely telling residents how much is paid in compulsory EU Landfill taxes would be more beneficial?

Bill Main-Ian
UKIP PPC for
Carshalton & Wallington
If you want to find costings and haven't received the answer then go through the Freedom of Information route. Mind you after the classic quotes from UKIP I would imagine the litter is the same as the recent floods...... all down to people being gay?!?!?!?! Joke of a party.
The only joke, my friend, is on people like you who are hooked up on the old party policies. Do you seriously believe everything being thrown at UKIP. Why do you think they are throwing so much mud, because they're worried sick that we appeal to the real people, the community and what localisation really means to solving local problems. No disrespect as we all have different views but a change is needed and it's needs to start at a local communal level. It's sad that UKIP have had it's odd problem magnified, but they have been dealt with. We will serve our wards in a new and distinct way because we live in them and amongst them and are an integral part of them. For a change locals will be listened to in a way not seen before and they will have a decision making voice, for we are local first and national later.
[quote][p][bold]whysaythat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bill UKIP C&W[/bold] wrote: You correctly describe this a "stunt". I have asked for the council to tell us what the cost of this stunt is, but have yet to receive a reply. They tell me that some £4 million is spent on clearing up street litter including fly tipping, but again this has not been broken down. For example does it include the cost of removal of rubbish placed in bins, does include the capital cost of the automatic street cleaners? Would a dramatic reduction mean disposal of these community assets? Surely the cost of fly tipping should not be included in a 'street littering' campaign? It just seems such a waste of money when all the council are wanting to achieve is a "hope" to raise awareness, surely telling residents how much is paid in compulsory EU Landfill taxes would be more beneficial? Bill Main-Ian UKIP PPC for Carshalton & Wallington[/p][/quote]If you want to find costings and haven't received the answer then go through the Freedom of Information route. Mind you after the classic quotes from UKIP I would imagine the litter is the same as the recent floods...... all down to people being gay?!?!?!?! Joke of a party.[/p][/quote]The only joke, my friend, is on people like you who are hooked up on the old party policies. Do you seriously believe everything being thrown at UKIP. Why do you think they are throwing so much mud, because they're worried sick that we appeal to the real people, the community and what localisation really means to solving local problems. No disrespect as we all have different views but a change is needed and it's needs to start at a local communal level. It's sad that UKIP have had it's odd problem magnified, but they have been dealt with. We will serve our wards in a new and distinct way because we live in them and amongst them and are an integral part of them. For a change locals will be listened to in a way not seen before and they will have a decision making voice, for we are local first and national later. Binsanity
  • Score: 0

8:18pm Tue 4 Feb 14

magrat10 says...

Marie from Sutton wrote:
How about McDonald having their own bin. Their litter is thrown all over the high street.
Disgraceful !
I hate to say this but they do have bins but, like with all bins nobody seems to use them. Kids and teens are the worst litterbugs. Nobody gives a s##t about the cleanliness of the town.
[quote][p][bold]Marie from Sutton[/bold] wrote: How about McDonald having their own bin. Their litter is thrown all over the high street. Disgraceful ![/p][/quote]I hate to say this but they do have bins but, like with all bins nobody seems to use them. Kids and teens are the worst litterbugs. Nobody gives a s##t about the cleanliness of the town. magrat10
  • Score: 11

8:36pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Niki R says...

If the town centre bins were emptied more frequently we wouldn't have such an issue. On an average Saturday the bins are overflowing by 1pm. So, perhaps get them emptied and usable again, and people won't be forced to leave rubbish at the foot of them or shove it in only for it to fall out again when they walk away?
If the town centre bins were emptied more frequently we wouldn't have such an issue. On an average Saturday the bins are overflowing by 1pm. So, perhaps get them emptied and usable again, and people won't be forced to leave rubbish at the foot of them or shove it in only for it to fall out again when they walk away? Niki R
  • Score: 12

8:36pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Cotton Club says...

What a waste of money. Its not the first time.

LBS are like the BBC. Spend our money stupiidly without regard for the tax payer.

Lets all dump the Lib Dems at the Next election.
What a waste of money. Its not the first time. LBS are like the BBC. Spend our money stupiidly without regard for the tax payer. Lets all dump the Lib Dems at the Next election. Cotton Club
  • Score: 14

9:17pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Mich says...

Will they mind if I add a bit of my own to this pile?
Will they mind if I add a bit of my own to this pile? Mich
  • Score: 9

9:58pm Tue 4 Feb 14

whysaythat says...

Binsanity wrote:
whysaythat wrote:
Bill UKIP C&W wrote:
You correctly describe this a "stunt". I have asked for the council to tell us what the cost of this stunt is, but have yet to receive a reply.

They tell me that some £4 million is spent on clearing up street litter including fly tipping, but again this has not been broken down.

For example does it include the cost of removal of rubbish placed in bins, does include the capital cost of the automatic street cleaners? Would a dramatic reduction mean disposal of these community assets?

Surely the cost of fly tipping should not be included in a 'street littering' campaign?

It just seems such a waste of money when all the council are wanting to achieve is a "hope" to raise awareness, surely telling residents how much is paid in compulsory EU Landfill taxes would be more beneficial?

Bill Main-Ian
UKIP PPC for
Carshalton & Wallington
If you want to find costings and haven't received the answer then go through the Freedom of Information route. Mind you after the classic quotes from UKIP I would imagine the litter is the same as the recent floods...... all down to people being gay?!?!?!?! Joke of a party.
The only joke, my friend, is on people like you who are hooked up on the old party policies. Do you seriously believe everything being thrown at UKIP. Why do you think they are throwing so much mud, because they're worried sick that we appeal to the real people, the community and what localisation really means to solving local problems. No disrespect as we all have different views but a change is needed and it's needs to start at a local communal level. It's sad that UKIP have had it's odd problem magnified, but they have been dealt with. We will serve our wards in a new and distinct way because we live in them and amongst them and are an integral part of them. For a change locals will be listened to in a way not seen before and they will have a decision making voice, for we are local first and national later.
I do appreciate a lot of what you say and the points you raise. I am all for localism first and us as residents being heard and listened to. But if I can research and find the money spent on this campaign why couldn't the UKIP candidate. Election time is farcical with money thrown at publicity etc. I also respect the freedom we have to vote for who we prefer. As soon as a party has a sensible amd realistic policy then my vote will be theirs. But some UKIP statements, albeit from one loose cannon are worrying. I just want a clean borough and none of the parties seem to have a clue how to provide that on a reduced budget. Election or not this is educational and should be applauded. I have never voted LD so don't have any affiliation to them.
[quote][p][bold]Binsanity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whysaythat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bill UKIP C&W[/bold] wrote: You correctly describe this a "stunt". I have asked for the council to tell us what the cost of this stunt is, but have yet to receive a reply. They tell me that some £4 million is spent on clearing up street litter including fly tipping, but again this has not been broken down. For example does it include the cost of removal of rubbish placed in bins, does include the capital cost of the automatic street cleaners? Would a dramatic reduction mean disposal of these community assets? Surely the cost of fly tipping should not be included in a 'street littering' campaign? It just seems such a waste of money when all the council are wanting to achieve is a "hope" to raise awareness, surely telling residents how much is paid in compulsory EU Landfill taxes would be more beneficial? Bill Main-Ian UKIP PPC for Carshalton & Wallington[/p][/quote]If you want to find costings and haven't received the answer then go through the Freedom of Information route. Mind you after the classic quotes from UKIP I would imagine the litter is the same as the recent floods...... all down to people being gay?!?!?!?! Joke of a party.[/p][/quote]The only joke, my friend, is on people like you who are hooked up on the old party policies. Do you seriously believe everything being thrown at UKIP. Why do you think they are throwing so much mud, because they're worried sick that we appeal to the real people, the community and what localisation really means to solving local problems. No disrespect as we all have different views but a change is needed and it's needs to start at a local communal level. It's sad that UKIP have had it's odd problem magnified, but they have been dealt with. We will serve our wards in a new and distinct way because we live in them and amongst them and are an integral part of them. For a change locals will be listened to in a way not seen before and they will have a decision making voice, for we are local first and national later.[/p][/quote]I do appreciate a lot of what you say and the points you raise. I am all for localism first and us as residents being heard and listened to. But if I can research and find the money spent on this campaign why couldn't the UKIP candidate. Election time is farcical with money thrown at publicity etc. I also respect the freedom we have to vote for who we prefer. As soon as a party has a sensible amd realistic policy then my vote will be theirs. But some UKIP statements, albeit from one loose cannon are worrying. I just want a clean borough and none of the parties seem to have a clue how to provide that on a reduced budget. Election or not this is educational and should be applauded. I have never voted LD so don't have any affiliation to them. whysaythat
  • Score: -4

1:02am Wed 5 Feb 14

GreenBrown says...

This stunt isn't going to achieve anything. Years ago the streets were fairly clean. You didn't have all this food on the go and people were more civil. When I see people just casually dropping litter as they open their pack of fags or finish their sweets etc it really does disgust me. I wouldn't fream of littering and I don't understand the mentality of those that do. It all come back to what a horrible, selfish country this has become. You need to change society or turn back the clock to solve this problem.

As for UKIP, I'll be voting for them for two reasons. Firstly, they will get us out of Europe, which is the most pressing issue this country has. Secondly, I just think it's time to let someone else have a go. The main 3 parties have had it their way for years. They have become complacent and they do not do what the majority of the people want. The incinerator being a good example of this. Lib/Lab/Con are one and the same. They are all of the ruling elite and none of them can be trusted. If your not happy with the main 3 why not vote for someone else. It really couldn't be any worse. It might just be better. Either way UKIP will do well in the Europe elections and the main 3 know it and are scared. The main 3 parties don't deserve to be voted for. They've screwed us all over for years. If you've been fooled by the media and don't want to vote UKIP then vote for Green or an independent, just not the main 3. It's time for change. Can you imagine what having a powerful 4th party in politics will do to the cosy system we have now.
This stunt isn't going to achieve anything. Years ago the streets were fairly clean. You didn't have all this food on the go and people were more civil. When I see people just casually dropping litter as they open their pack of fags or finish their sweets etc it really does disgust me. I wouldn't fream of littering and I don't understand the mentality of those that do. It all come back to what a horrible, selfish country this has become. You need to change society or turn back the clock to solve this problem. As for UKIP, I'll be voting for them for two reasons. Firstly, they will get us out of Europe, which is the most pressing issue this country has. Secondly, I just think it's time to let someone else have a go. The main 3 parties have had it their way for years. They have become complacent and they do not do what the majority of the people want. The incinerator being a good example of this. Lib/Lab/Con are one and the same. They are all of the ruling elite and none of them can be trusted. If your not happy with the main 3 why not vote for someone else. It really couldn't be any worse. It might just be better. Either way UKIP will do well in the Europe elections and the main 3 know it and are scared. The main 3 parties don't deserve to be voted for. They've screwed us all over for years. If you've been fooled by the media and don't want to vote UKIP then vote for Green or an independent, just not the main 3. It's time for change. Can you imagine what having a powerful 4th party in politics will do to the cosy system we have now. GreenBrown
  • Score: 0

1:23am Wed 5 Feb 14

gbzgc says...

In view of the weather lately I hope it isnt a windy day!!!!!!
In view of the weather lately I hope it isnt a windy day!!!!!! gbzgc
  • Score: 8

10:22am Wed 5 Feb 14

Mr Flange of Wallington says...

11 tonnes of rubbish. Is that the combined weight of Lib Dem Councillors in Sutton, or just the amount of excrement they come up with?

Instead of political point scoring, why don't they just pull their fingers out and improve the fining of litter louts? I suspect the truth is they like it messy. I live near a Lib Dem councillor who has a very untidy and unkempt front garden.
11 tonnes of rubbish. Is that the combined weight of Lib Dem Councillors in Sutton, or just the amount of excrement they come up with? Instead of political point scoring, why don't they just pull their fingers out and improve the fining of litter louts? I suspect the truth is they like it messy. I live near a Lib Dem councillor who has a very untidy and unkempt front garden. Mr Flange of Wallington
  • Score: 12

1:33pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Michael Pantlin says...

Typically mad LibDemons stunt but somehow the weird electorate have had a chip implanted iin their heads so they will continue to return them to office whatever they do or fail to do.
Typically mad LibDemons stunt but somehow the weird electorate have had a chip implanted iin their heads so they will continue to return them to office whatever they do or fail to do. Michael Pantlin
  • Score: 2

1:37pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Michael Pantlin says...

Another LibDem triumph to go down in history along with the totem pole, roughly hewn wooden animals, logs to fall off, podium precipice at the High Street Square, £600,000 bus shelter, grassed roofed cafe, grass walled shop etc. If the pile catches fire the public will get a taste of the LibDem Incinerator fumes to come.
Another LibDem triumph to go down in history along with the totem pole, roughly hewn wooden animals, logs to fall off, podium precipice at the High Street Square, £600,000 bus shelter, grassed roofed cafe, grass walled shop etc. If the pile catches fire the public will get a taste of the LibDem Incinerator fumes to come. Michael Pantlin
  • Score: 7

1:41pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Michael Pantlin says...

CPN wrote:
Agreed Havana club - I think it is an inventive idea. It will be interesting to see people's reactions on Thursday, then maybe we can tell how effective it will be.
What do these clowns think I don't know what a pile of litter looks like? It's an obstacle course to navigate down the High Street anyway due to the street flutter of furniture and stalls.
[quote][p][bold]CPN[/bold] wrote: Agreed Havana club - I think it is an inventive idea. It will be interesting to see people's reactions on Thursday, then maybe we can tell how effective it will be.[/p][/quote]What do these clowns think I don't know what a pile of litter looks like? It's an obstacle course to navigate down the High Street anyway due to the street flutter of furniture and stalls. Michael Pantlin
  • Score: 2

1:42pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Michael Pantlin says...

I suggest next stunt to put 11 tons of doggy dudu outside Civic Offices to underline concern about path fouling.
I suggest next stunt to put 11 tons of doggy dudu outside Civic Offices to underline concern about path fouling. Michael Pantlin
  • Score: 4

1:44pm Wed 5 Feb 14

LiberalsOut says...

This is exactly why you should vote them out in May ????
Concentrate on running services efficiently - stop recruiting staff in the £40K plus bracket - look to be cutting our Council Tax and stop these stupid stunts
This is exactly why you should vote them out in May ???? Concentrate on running services efficiently - stop recruiting staff in the £40K plus bracket - look to be cutting our Council Tax and stop these stupid stunts LiberalsOut
  • Score: 8

1:46pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Michael Pantlin says...

whysaythat wrote:
Niki R wrote:
Surely educating people doesn't have to come with this sort of nonsense? I wouldn't be best pleased if I was trying to shop in Waterstone's, or work there... more PR stunts from the Council, who busy themselves with this stuff when people are suffering with the Bedroom Tax and cuts to local services.
Surely the point is to highlight the amount of money spent on collecting and disposing of the waste, and giving us an idea of what 11 tonnes of waste looks like. Then showing how this money could be spent on preventing further cuts if we all did our bit??
Any savings or extra money that comes into the mitts of the LibDemons will be frittered away on pet fiasos.
[quote][p][bold]whysaythat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Niki R[/bold] wrote: Surely educating people doesn't have to come with this sort of nonsense? I wouldn't be best pleased if I was trying to shop in Waterstone's, or work there... more PR stunts from the Council, who busy themselves with this stuff when people are suffering with the Bedroom Tax and cuts to local services.[/p][/quote]Surely the point is to highlight the amount of money spent on collecting and disposing of the waste, and giving us an idea of what 11 tonnes of waste looks like. Then showing how this money could be spent on preventing further cuts if we all did our bit??[/p][/quote]Any savings or extra money that comes into the mitts of the LibDemons will be frittered away on pet fiasos. Michael Pantlin
  • Score: 6

3:57pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Something-Wonderful says...

I've heard that this little exercise may cost in excess of £10,000....

Please tell me there is nothing more worthwhile to spend that on in Sutton?

Another ill conceived "publicity stunt" from a bunch that rhyme perfectly...

SW
I've heard that this little exercise may cost in excess of £10,000.... Please tell me there is nothing more worthwhile to spend that on in Sutton? Another ill conceived "publicity stunt" from a bunch that rhyme perfectly... SW Something-Wonderful
  • Score: 6

4:31pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Bill UKIP C&W says...

Something-Wonderful wrote:
I've heard that this little exercise may cost in excess of £10,000....

Please tell me there is nothing more worthwhile to spend that on in Sutton?

Another ill conceived "publicity stunt" from a bunch that rhyme perfectly...

SW
Sutton Council deny that it will cost this on Twitter, "that is entirely false."

Of course they have not actually put a costed figure on the event.
[quote][p][bold]Something-Wonderful[/bold] wrote: I've heard that this little exercise may cost in excess of £10,000.... Please tell me there is nothing more worthwhile to spend that on in Sutton? Another ill conceived "publicity stunt" from a bunch that rhyme perfectly... SW[/p][/quote]Sutton Council deny that it will cost this on Twitter, "that is entirely false." Of course they have not actually put a costed figure on the event. Bill UKIP C&W
  • Score: 2

8:26pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Bonnie Craven says...

Rubbish councillors filling our struggling high street with rubbish. It's like they actually want to see more local businesses fail. Complacent Limp Dems dreaming up schemes to spend budgets before the election. Instead of wasting money on this foul scheme, they could be publicising the immediate threat that our much loved and well-used hospital is in as a result of the Lib Dem MPs and their paymasters policy making. That would be considerably more useful to the people whose money they are literally throwing away.

And we all have a chance to decide in May. Do we want a council fighting for our necessary services and supporting our businesses, or do we want Limp Dems to stay in posts they have already so badly served us in?

Neighbouring councillors at Labour run Mitcham and Morden are investing in the fight to keep St Helier Hospital open, with advertising campaigns on their way and funding for a judicial review if necessary. Shouldn't the council in whose borough the hospital actually stands be working to save St Helier?
Rubbish councillors filling our struggling high street with rubbish. It's like they actually want to see more local businesses fail. Complacent Limp Dems dreaming up schemes to spend budgets before the election. Instead of wasting money on this foul scheme, they could be publicising the immediate threat that our much loved and well-used hospital is in as a result of the Lib Dem MPs and their paymasters policy making. That would be considerably more useful to the people whose money they are literally throwing away. And we all have a chance to decide in May. Do we want a council fighting for our necessary services and supporting our businesses, or do we want Limp Dems to stay in posts they have already so badly served us in? Neighbouring councillors at Labour run Mitcham and Morden are investing in the fight to keep St Helier Hospital open, with advertising campaigns on their way and funding for a judicial review if necessary. Shouldn't the council in whose borough the hospital actually stands be working to save St Helier? Bonnie Craven
  • Score: 0

9:22pm Wed 5 Feb 14

ResidentTony says...

GILES - I am not a lemming. My support for or opposition to things is always based on one thing and one thing only: will it in my view make Sutton a better or worse borough. The Lib Dems have done some good things over the years and they have made some mistakes. I have yet to decide who if anyone I'll vote for in the local elections.

PS It's a pity all or most commentators in these columns come at every little thing with a party political hat on.
GILES - I am not a lemming. My support for or opposition to things is always based on one thing and one thing only: will it in my view make Sutton a better or worse borough. The Lib Dems have done some good things over the years and they have made some mistakes. I have yet to decide who if anyone I'll vote for in the local elections. PS It's a pity all or most commentators in these columns come at every little thing with a party political hat on. ResidentTony
  • Score: 0

9:37pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Bill UKIP C&W says...

ResidentTony wrote:
GILES - I am not a lemming. My support for or opposition to things is always based on one thing and one thing only: will it in my view make Sutton a better or worse borough. The Lib Dems have done some good things over the years and they have made some mistakes. I have yet to decide who if anyone I'll vote for in the local elections.

PS It's a pity all or most commentators in these columns come at every little thing with a party political hat on.
ResidentTony, most parties have some good ideas and others that the other parties take exception to. We should try and adopt the good ones and criticise the bad.

On Twitter over this issue it is amazing that the LibDem opponents from the other parties, actually agree that this is just a cynical ploy and even the paper describes it as a "stunt" see above.

I agree with you that party considerations probably are to the forefront of some of the posts, but that is what local democracy is about, isn't it? at least we are trying to interact with people that take an interest in local issues.

Anyway from a UKIP viewpoint we just think that the Libdem's have had such a stranglehold over Sutton Council for so long now that it actually unhealthy from a democratic point of view. As the 'new kid on the block' I am hoping that the people of Sutton will see our candidates as ordinary folk just like those they seek to represent and they are from all backgrounds. Having been part of the selection team I am impressed with the people that have put themselves forward.

We are in interesting times.
[quote][p][bold]ResidentTony[/bold] wrote: GILES - I am not a lemming. My support for or opposition to things is always based on one thing and one thing only: will it in my view make Sutton a better or worse borough. The Lib Dems have done some good things over the years and they have made some mistakes. I have yet to decide who if anyone I'll vote for in the local elections. PS It's a pity all or most commentators in these columns come at every little thing with a party political hat on.[/p][/quote]ResidentTony, most parties have some good ideas and others that the other parties take exception to. We should try and adopt the good ones and criticise the bad. On Twitter over this issue it is amazing that the LibDem opponents from the other parties, actually agree that this is just a cynical ploy and even the paper describes it as a "stunt" see above. I agree with you that party considerations probably are to the forefront of some of the posts, but that is what local democracy is about, isn't it? at least we are trying to interact with people that take an interest in local issues. Anyway from a UKIP viewpoint we just think that the Libdem's have had such a stranglehold over Sutton Council for so long now that it actually unhealthy from a democratic point of view. As the 'new kid on the block' I am hoping that the people of Sutton will see our candidates as ordinary folk just like those they seek to represent and they are from all backgrounds. Having been part of the selection team I am impressed with the people that have put themselves forward. We are in interesting times. Bill UKIP C&W
  • Score: 3

5:32am Thu 6 Feb 14

Giles C says...

ResidentTony wrote:
GILES - I am not a lemming. My support for or opposition to things is always based on one thing and one thing only: will it in my view make Sutton a better or worse borough. The Lib Dems have done some good things over the years and they have made some mistakes. I have yet to decide who if anyone I'll vote for in the local elections.

PS It's a pity all or most commentators in these columns come at every little thing with a party political hat on.
Ok Tony this is your chance..

I have listed a lot of the bad things the LibDems have done..now please can you list the good ones?
[quote][p][bold]ResidentTony[/bold] wrote: GILES - I am not a lemming. My support for or opposition to things is always based on one thing and one thing only: will it in my view make Sutton a better or worse borough. The Lib Dems have done some good things over the years and they have made some mistakes. I have yet to decide who if anyone I'll vote for in the local elections. PS It's a pity all or most commentators in these columns come at every little thing with a party political hat on.[/p][/quote]Ok Tony this is your chance.. I have listed a lot of the bad things the LibDems have done..now please can you list the good ones? Giles C
  • Score: 2

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