VIDEO: How Sutton's 11 tonne litter mountain was built

Sutton Guardian: Council leader Ruth Dombey in front of Sutton's rubbish mountain Council leader Ruth Dombey in front of Sutton's rubbish mountain

This time-lapse video shows Sutton Council creating an 11-tonne litter mountain in the town centre.

The council dumped the huge pile of rubbish in the High Street to illustrate the amount of litter dropped in the borough every day.

The stunt marked the start of an anti-littering campaign during which people will be fined for dropping rubbish like cigarette butts and chewing gum in front of newly employed litter cops who will be patrolling hotspots.

Sutton Council hopes to use the threat of a fine to educate people not to drop rubbish. Collecting litter costs the council £4million every year and it is hoped this drive will cut that figure.


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4:47pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Giles C says...

Could the Sutton Guardian also do a time lapse on how Suttons debt has built up over the last 27 years please?
Surplus to a £187million debt mountain.
Could the Sutton Guardian also do a time lapse on how Suttons debt has built up over the last 27 years please? Surplus to a £187million debt mountain. Giles C

5:29pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Binsanity says...

Could we please now have the full financial costing for this stunt. 1 HGV grabloader, caged transit, transit van, VW caddy supervisors van and the numerous staff (drivers, loaders, streetcleaners, councillors and supervisory staff). And this is apparent from the video only and does not take account of the planning, preperation or meetings to mount such an operation. Lets see if Sutton Council comes clean.
Could we please now have the full financial costing for this stunt. 1 HGV grabloader, caged transit, transit van, VW caddy supervisors van and the numerous staff (drivers, loaders, streetcleaners, councillors and supervisory staff). And this is apparent from the video only and does not take account of the planning, preperation or meetings to mount such an operation. Lets see if Sutton Council comes clean. Binsanity

8:39pm Mon 10 Feb 14

tony Shields says...

Binsanity wrote:
Could we please now have the full financial costing for this stunt. 1 HGV grabloader, caged transit, transit van, VW caddy supervisors van and the numerous staff (drivers, loaders, streetcleaners, councillors and supervisory staff). And this is apparent from the video only and does not take account of the planning, preperation or meetings to mount such an operation. Lets see if Sutton Council comes clean.
Dear Binsanity

I can help you with the costings
Labour £6,171.88
Transportation £1421.88
Equipment £708.52
Disposal £1,359.09
Support services £1,840.91
Lib Dem faces when they reads this ; Priceless
total £11,502.27

A total waste from the money wasting experts
Tony Shields ,Conservative Councillor Sutton South Ward
[quote][p][bold]Binsanity[/bold] wrote: Could we please now have the full financial costing for this stunt. 1 HGV grabloader, caged transit, transit van, VW caddy supervisors van and the numerous staff (drivers, loaders, streetcleaners, councillors and supervisory staff). And this is apparent from the video only and does not take account of the planning, preperation or meetings to mount such an operation. Lets see if Sutton Council comes clean.[/p][/quote]Dear Binsanity I can help you with the costings Labour £6,171.88 Transportation £1421.88 Equipment £708.52 Disposal £1,359.09 Support services £1,840.91 Lib Dem faces when they reads this ; Priceless total £11,502.27 A total waste from the money wasting experts Tony Shields ,Conservative Councillor Sutton South Ward tony Shields

9:11pm Mon 10 Feb 14

ResidentTony says...

perhaps those above - giles c, bin s and tony s - would share with the people of Sutton how they would try to make a dent in the annual four million pound street cleaning bill.

To stand any chance of winning, you guys need to convince a sceptical electorate that you can do a better job. The "punch and judie", name-calling style you adopt just turns everyone off politics.
perhaps those above - giles c, bin s and tony s - would share with the people of Sutton how they would try to make a dent in the annual four million pound street cleaning bill. To stand any chance of winning, you guys need to convince a sceptical electorate that you can do a better job. The "punch and judie", name-calling style you adopt just turns everyone off politics. ResidentTony

9:46pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Niki R says...

£11500 of council tax money wasted on a Lib Dem PR stunt. Absolutely scandalous... I feel a few questions will be reaching the Councillors involved over the next week.
£11500 of council tax money wasted on a Lib Dem PR stunt. Absolutely scandalous... I feel a few questions will be reaching the Councillors involved over the next week. Niki R

10:04pm Mon 10 Feb 14

ResidentTony says...

Everyone is falling over themselves to hurt their political opponents. Being thousand-wise and million-foolish won't improve Sutton !!
Everyone is falling over themselves to hurt their political opponents. Being thousand-wise and million-foolish won't improve Sutton !! ResidentTony

11:01pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Giles C says...

ResidentTony wrote:
perhaps those above - giles c, bin s and tony s - would share with the people of Sutton how they would try to make a dent in the annual four million pound street cleaning bill.

To stand any chance of winning, you guys need to convince a sceptical electorate that you can do a better job. The "punch and judie", name-calling style you adopt just turns everyone off politics.
I wouldn't lie about it being £4 million for a start....
Also I would ensure that the 15 people in the councils policy dept and the 3 climate change officers and the 3 travel plan officers and the 4 equality officers all on over 50k a year are put onto duties that would actually help the people of Sutton and not just this administrations egos..
That's just for starters..
Main course to be served a bit later..
[quote][p][bold]ResidentTony[/bold] wrote: perhaps those above - giles c, bin s and tony s - would share with the people of Sutton how they would try to make a dent in the annual four million pound street cleaning bill. To stand any chance of winning, you guys need to convince a sceptical electorate that you can do a better job. The "punch and judie", name-calling style you adopt just turns everyone off politics.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't lie about it being £4 million for a start.... Also I would ensure that the 15 people in the councils policy dept and the 3 climate change officers and the 3 travel plan officers and the 4 equality officers all on over 50k a year are put onto duties that would actually help the people of Sutton and not just this administrations egos.. That's just for starters.. Main course to be served a bit later.. Giles C

11:03pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Mr Flange of Wallington says...

ResidentTony wrote:
Everyone is falling over themselves to hurt their political opponents. Being thousand-wise and million-foolish won't improve Sutton !!
Look after the thousands and the millions will look after themselves.

The Lib Dems are electioneering with MY MONEY! That is plain wrong.
[quote][p][bold]ResidentTony[/bold] wrote: Everyone is falling over themselves to hurt their political opponents. Being thousand-wise and million-foolish won't improve Sutton !![/p][/quote]Look after the thousands and the millions will look after themselves. The Lib Dems are electioneering with MY MONEY! That is plain wrong. Mr Flange of Wallington

11:27pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Forty_two says...

Is this the same council who said a "Save St. Helier Hospital" poster campaign to be affixed to council dustcarts would not be "Cost Effective"???
Is this the same council who said a "Save St. Helier Hospital" poster campaign to be affixed to council dustcarts would not be "Cost Effective"??? Forty_two

1:00pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Marie from Sutton says...

So my council tax money was spent on something I would not have had the chance to 'see/appreciate' as I WAS WORKING at the time, same as the majority of Sutton residents.
Again, who is the message intended for?
The retired? School kids? Bums that cannot be bothered to work and who do not contribute to council tax. Bums, the retired and the young are responsible for the mess on the streets in the Borough?
Thank you for the message Sutton Council, I feel so much better about myself, as in 'superior', 'responsible', 'trustworthy'.
In short, incompetent PR exercise.
So my council tax money was spent on something I would not have had the chance to 'see/appreciate' as I WAS WORKING at the time, same as the majority of Sutton residents. Again, who is the message intended for? The retired? School kids? Bums that cannot be bothered to work and who do not contribute to council tax. Bums, the retired and the young are responsible for the mess on the streets in the Borough? Thank you for the message Sutton Council, I feel so much better about myself, as in 'superior', 'responsible', 'trustworthy'. In short, incompetent PR exercise. Marie from Sutton

4:11pm Tue 11 Feb 14

ResidentTony says...

Marie from Sutton wrote:
So my council tax money was spent on something I would not have had the chance to 'see/appreciate' as I WAS WORKING at the time, same as the majority of Sutton residents.
Again, who is the message intended for?
The retired? School kids? Bums that cannot be bothered to work and who do not contribute to council tax. Bums, the retired and the young are responsible for the mess on the streets in the Borough?
Thank you for the message Sutton Council, I feel so much better about myself, as in 'superior', 'responsible', 'trustworthy'.
In short, incompetent PR exercise.
This will obviously have been seen by vastly, vastly more people than those physically present at the time. Newspapers and Internet etc etc always see to that. So there is really no need to worry on that count.

Let's just hope the feckless, self-centred litterbugs feel ashamed of themselves and mend their carefree, antisocial ways. The Swiss and others typically carry their litter home with them - why can't a greater proportion of we Brits? We need to develop a greater sense of civic pride!!
[quote][p][bold]Marie from Sutton[/bold] wrote: So my council tax money was spent on something I would not have had the chance to 'see/appreciate' as I WAS WORKING at the time, same as the majority of Sutton residents. Again, who is the message intended for? The retired? School kids? Bums that cannot be bothered to work and who do not contribute to council tax. Bums, the retired and the young are responsible for the mess on the streets in the Borough? Thank you for the message Sutton Council, I feel so much better about myself, as in 'superior', 'responsible', 'trustworthy'. In short, incompetent PR exercise.[/p][/quote]This will obviously have been seen by vastly, vastly more people than those physically present at the time. Newspapers and Internet etc etc always see to that. So there is really no need to worry on that count. Let's just hope the feckless, self-centred litterbugs feel ashamed of themselves and mend their carefree, antisocial ways. The Swiss and others typically carry their litter home with them - why can't a greater proportion of we Brits? We need to develop a greater sense of civic pride!! ResidentTony

5:08pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Giles C says...

ResidentTony wrote:
Marie from Sutton wrote:
So my council tax money was spent on something I would not have had the chance to 'see/appreciate' as I WAS WORKING at the time, same as the majority of Sutton residents.
Again, who is the message intended for?
The retired? School kids? Bums that cannot be bothered to work and who do not contribute to council tax. Bums, the retired and the young are responsible for the mess on the streets in the Borough?
Thank you for the message Sutton Council, I feel so much better about myself, as in 'superior', 'responsible', 'trustworthy'.
In short, incompetent PR exercise.
This will obviously have been seen by vastly, vastly more people than those physically present at the time. Newspapers and Internet etc etc always see to that. So there is really no need to worry on that count.

Let's just hope the feckless, self-centred litterbugs feel ashamed of themselves and mend their carefree, antisocial ways. The Swiss and others typically carry their litter home with them - why can't a greater proportion of we Brits? We need to develop a greater sense of civic pride!!
In other news Sutton make cuts to Children's and Adult social services..
Happy now Resident Tony...
[quote][p][bold]ResidentTony[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marie from Sutton[/bold] wrote: So my council tax money was spent on something I would not have had the chance to 'see/appreciate' as I WAS WORKING at the time, same as the majority of Sutton residents. Again, who is the message intended for? The retired? School kids? Bums that cannot be bothered to work and who do not contribute to council tax. Bums, the retired and the young are responsible for the mess on the streets in the Borough? Thank you for the message Sutton Council, I feel so much better about myself, as in 'superior', 'responsible', 'trustworthy'. In short, incompetent PR exercise.[/p][/quote]This will obviously have been seen by vastly, vastly more people than those physically present at the time. Newspapers and Internet etc etc always see to that. So there is really no need to worry on that count. Let's just hope the feckless, self-centred litterbugs feel ashamed of themselves and mend their carefree, antisocial ways. The Swiss and others typically carry their litter home with them - why can't a greater proportion of we Brits? We need to develop a greater sense of civic pride!![/p][/quote]In other news Sutton make cuts to Children's and Adult social services.. Happy now Resident Tony... Giles C

5:37pm Tue 11 Feb 14

SouthLondoner65 says...

Oh bugger off Tony Shields. You are the worst councillor! Every last thing you say and do is politically motivated - 'what will the local Mail readers think of this if I twist that this way' is what always goes through your dirty little Tory mind. A one-off exercise costing roughly £10,000 aimed at reducing the cost of litter is, IMHO, good value. Tell us, how much will this cost each tax payer? A fraction of a penny, perhaps? I think the way the council illustrated the vast amount of litter being thrown onto our streets each day was brilliant! A great way of raising awareness and hopefully making people think twice before dropping their can of coke or whatever. It will save far more than this one-off thing cost! Fining the litter louts is also a step in the right direction.
This site is just overrun with small minded morons who know very little about economics, the environment and fairness...
Oh bugger off Tony Shields. You are the worst councillor! Every last thing you say and do is politically motivated - 'what will the local Mail readers think of this if I twist that this way' is what always goes through your dirty little Tory mind. A one-off exercise costing roughly £10,000 aimed at reducing the cost of litter is, IMHO, good value. Tell us, how much will this cost each tax payer? A fraction of a penny, perhaps? I think the way the council illustrated the vast amount of litter being thrown onto our streets each day was brilliant! A great way of raising awareness and hopefully making people think twice before dropping their can of coke or whatever. It will save far more than this one-off thing cost! Fining the litter louts is also a step in the right direction. This site is just overrun with small minded morons who know very little about economics, the environment and fairness... SouthLondoner65

6:27pm Tue 11 Feb 14

ResidentTony says...

Giles C wrote:
ResidentTony wrote:
Marie from Sutton wrote:
So my council tax money was spent on something I would not have had the chance to 'see/appreciate' as I WAS WORKING at the time, same as the majority of Sutton residents.
Again, who is the message intended for?
The retired? School kids? Bums that cannot be bothered to work and who do not contribute to council tax. Bums, the retired and the young are responsible for the mess on the streets in the Borough?
Thank you for the message Sutton Council, I feel so much better about myself, as in 'superior', 'responsible', 'trustworthy'.
In short, incompetent PR exercise.
This will obviously have been seen by vastly, vastly more people than those physically present at the time. Newspapers and Internet etc etc always see to that. So there is really no need to worry on that count.

Let's just hope the feckless, self-centred litterbugs feel ashamed of themselves and mend their carefree, antisocial ways. The Swiss and others typically carry their litter home with them - why can't a greater proportion of we Brits? We need to develop a greater sense of civic pride!!
In other news Sutton make cuts to Children's and Adult social services..
Happy now Resident Tony...
Why would it make me happy?? The litterbugs are to blame !!
[quote][p][bold]Giles C[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ResidentTony[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marie from Sutton[/bold] wrote: So my council tax money was spent on something I would not have had the chance to 'see/appreciate' as I WAS WORKING at the time, same as the majority of Sutton residents. Again, who is the message intended for? The retired? School kids? Bums that cannot be bothered to work and who do not contribute to council tax. Bums, the retired and the young are responsible for the mess on the streets in the Borough? Thank you for the message Sutton Council, I feel so much better about myself, as in 'superior', 'responsible', 'trustworthy'. In short, incompetent PR exercise.[/p][/quote]This will obviously have been seen by vastly, vastly more people than those physically present at the time. Newspapers and Internet etc etc always see to that. So there is really no need to worry on that count. Let's just hope the feckless, self-centred litterbugs feel ashamed of themselves and mend their carefree, antisocial ways. The Swiss and others typically carry their litter home with them - why can't a greater proportion of we Brits? We need to develop a greater sense of civic pride!![/p][/quote]In other news Sutton make cuts to Children's and Adult social services.. Happy now Resident Tony...[/p][/quote]Why would it make me happy?? The litterbugs are to blame !! ResidentTony

6:37pm Tue 11 Feb 14

ResidentTony says...

SouthLondoner65 wrote:
Oh bugger off Tony Shields. You are the worst councillor! Every last thing you say and do is politically motivated - 'what will the local Mail readers think of this if I twist that this way' is what always goes through your dirty little Tory mind. A one-off exercise costing roughly £10,000 aimed at reducing the cost of litter is, IMHO, good value. Tell us, how much will this cost each tax payer? A fraction of a penny, perhaps? I think the way the council illustrated the vast amount of litter being thrown onto our streets each day was brilliant! A great way of raising awareness and hopefully making people think twice before dropping their can of coke or whatever. It will save far more than this one-off thing cost! Fining the litter louts is also a step in the right direction.
This site is just overrun with small minded morons who know very little about economics, the environment and fairness...
I totally agree with your main arguments. But you were perhaps a little harsh on Tony Shields at one point.
[quote][p][bold]SouthLondoner65[/bold] wrote: Oh bugger off Tony Shields. You are the worst councillor! Every last thing you say and do is politically motivated - 'what will the local Mail readers think of this if I twist that this way' is what always goes through your dirty little Tory mind. A one-off exercise costing roughly £10,000 aimed at reducing the cost of litter is, IMHO, good value. Tell us, how much will this cost each tax payer? A fraction of a penny, perhaps? I think the way the council illustrated the vast amount of litter being thrown onto our streets each day was brilliant! A great way of raising awareness and hopefully making people think twice before dropping their can of coke or whatever. It will save far more than this one-off thing cost! Fining the litter louts is also a step in the right direction. This site is just overrun with small minded morons who know very little about economics, the environment and fairness...[/p][/quote]I totally agree with your main arguments. But you were perhaps a little harsh on Tony Shields at one point. ResidentTony

8:57pm Tue 11 Feb 14

tony Shields says...

SouthLondoner65 wrote:
Oh bugger off Tony Shields. You are the worst councillor! Every last thing you say and do is politically motivated - 'what will the local Mail readers think of this if I twist that this way' is what always goes through your dirty little Tory mind. A one-off exercise costing roughly £10,000 aimed at reducing the cost of litter is, IMHO, good value. Tell us, how much will this cost each tax payer? A fraction of a penny, perhaps? I think the way the council illustrated the vast amount of litter being thrown onto our streets each day was brilliant! A great way of raising awareness and hopefully making people think twice before dropping their can of coke or whatever. It will save far more than this one-off thing cost! Fining the litter louts is also a step in the right direction.
This site is just overrun with small minded morons who know very little about economics, the environment and fairness...
the difference between you and me is quite simple; in this democracy I feel I am able to put my point of view as who I am, so stop hiding behind a nickname and use your own , I do .
[quote][p][bold]SouthLondoner65[/bold] wrote: Oh bugger off Tony Shields. You are the worst councillor! Every last thing you say and do is politically motivated - 'what will the local Mail readers think of this if I twist that this way' is what always goes through your dirty little Tory mind. A one-off exercise costing roughly £10,000 aimed at reducing the cost of litter is, IMHO, good value. Tell us, how much will this cost each tax payer? A fraction of a penny, perhaps? I think the way the council illustrated the vast amount of litter being thrown onto our streets each day was brilliant! A great way of raising awareness and hopefully making people think twice before dropping their can of coke or whatever. It will save far more than this one-off thing cost! Fining the litter louts is also a step in the right direction. This site is just overrun with small minded morons who know very little about economics, the environment and fairness...[/p][/quote]the difference between you and me is quite simple; in this democracy I feel I am able to put my point of view as who I am, so stop hiding behind a nickname and use your own , I do . tony Shields

9:25pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Arthur Bollokov says...

In Moscow the streets are spotless. The only thing dumped on them are useless politicians, who quickly lose their positions and end up on the streets begging.

Could that have been the rest of the Lib-Dems all bagged and ready to go behind Cllr Dombey next May?
In Moscow the streets are spotless. The only thing dumped on them are useless politicians, who quickly lose their positions and end up on the streets begging. Could that have been the rest of the Lib-Dems all bagged and ready to go behind Cllr Dombey next May? Arthur Bollokov

10:15pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Arthur Bollokov says...

SouthLondoner65 seems to see things in a rather simple way, to my mind. It will only cost the taxpayer pennies according to him, but that's the way of the Lib-Dems. A penny here, a penny there, thinking nobody will notice. But it all adds up of course.

Things like that jar me. It's a case of no jam today and no jam tomorrow with them, but by golly they will do anything to cover it up.
SouthLondoner65 seems to see things in a rather simple way, to my mind. It will only cost the taxpayer pennies according to him, but that's the way of the Lib-Dems. A penny here, a penny there, thinking nobody will notice. But it all adds up of course. Things like that jar me. It's a case of no jam today and no jam tomorrow with them, but by golly they will do anything to cover it up. Arthur Bollokov

10:31pm Tue 11 Feb 14

SouthLondoner65 says...

In this democracy, I ask that you don't tell me what to do, Mr Shields. Very few people have their full names and details on here. You are a councillor so you have reason to (although poisonous reasons, obviously). The fact is, you twist and manipulate facts to your own advantage. I'm not the only local resident of Sutton who finds you repulsive to the extreme. Your attitude towards the car park redevelopment, for instance, was typical of you - the 'what will the local Mail readers think of improving Sutton?' approach occurred there. And now this. Either you lack any sense whatsoever (which isn't at all uncommon in the Nasty Party) or you are basing your whole career on being a politically motivated moron.

Lousy politician. I would not usually vote Lib Dem as I am Labour at heart but I shall definitely be voting Lib Dem in May to keep the Tories OUT of Sutton
In this democracy, I ask that you don't tell me what to do, Mr Shields. Very few people have their full names and details on here. You are a councillor so you have reason to (although poisonous reasons, obviously). The fact is, you twist and manipulate facts to your own advantage. I'm not the only local resident of Sutton who finds you repulsive to the extreme. Your attitude towards the car park redevelopment, for instance, was typical of you - the 'what will the local Mail readers think of improving Sutton?' approach occurred there. And now this. Either you lack any sense whatsoever (which isn't at all uncommon in the Nasty Party) or you are basing your whole career on being a politically motivated moron. Lousy politician. I would not usually vote Lib Dem as I am Labour at heart but I shall definitely be voting Lib Dem in May to keep the Tories OUT of Sutton SouthLondoner65

10:39pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Giles C says...

SouthLondoner65 wrote:
In this democracy, I ask that you don't tell me what to do, Mr Shields. Very few people have their full names and details on here. You are a councillor so you have reason to (although poisonous reasons, obviously). The fact is, you twist and manipulate facts to your own advantage. I'm not the only local resident of Sutton who finds you repulsive to the extreme. Your attitude towards the car park redevelopment, for instance, was typical of you - the 'what will the local Mail readers think of improving Sutton?' approach occurred there. And now this. Either you lack any sense whatsoever (which isn't at all uncommon in the Nasty Party) or you are basing your whole career on being a politically motivated moron.

Lousy politician. I would not usually vote Lib Dem as I am Labour at heart but I shall definitely be voting Lib Dem in May to keep the Tories OUT of Sutton
I see the Lib Dems are getting worried then having to resort to this type of response....
It's people like you who make me sick South Londoner 65...Your ideology is pathetic and shows how desperate and nasty the LDs have become..roll on May 22nd...let the LD cull begin
[quote][p][bold]SouthLondoner65[/bold] wrote: In this democracy, I ask that you don't tell me what to do, Mr Shields. Very few people have their full names and details on here. You are a councillor so you have reason to (although poisonous reasons, obviously). The fact is, you twist and manipulate facts to your own advantage. I'm not the only local resident of Sutton who finds you repulsive to the extreme. Your attitude towards the car park redevelopment, for instance, was typical of you - the 'what will the local Mail readers think of improving Sutton?' approach occurred there. And now this. Either you lack any sense whatsoever (which isn't at all uncommon in the Nasty Party) or you are basing your whole career on being a politically motivated moron. Lousy politician. I would not usually vote Lib Dem as I am Labour at heart but I shall definitely be voting Lib Dem in May to keep the Tories OUT of Sutton[/p][/quote]I see the Lib Dems are getting worried then having to resort to this type of response.... It's people like you who make me sick South Londoner 65...Your ideology is pathetic and shows how desperate and nasty the LDs have become..roll on May 22nd...let the LD cull begin Giles C

12:02am Wed 12 Feb 14

Lolliepop93 says...

@marie. Not all people are 'bums' who are on benefits this is what winds me up because I am on benefits and PAY COUNCIL TAX but I am on benefits for health reasons due to which I can't work ATM due to physical health but yes I do agree with you that there are 'bums' out there who don't look for work and just sit on their bums ect, this is why so many people look down at people on benefits, I have worked since I was 15 now 20 and haven't been off work for near enough as long as some of these 'bums' but i/people in similar situations get put in the same category. It's not just those on benefits that litter that is just ridiculous to think that only people on benefits litter, it's lazy people that litter and people who can not be bothered to walk 10 steps to a rubbish bin.
@marie. Not all people are 'bums' who are on benefits this is what winds me up because I am on benefits and PAY COUNCIL TAX but I am on benefits for health reasons due to which I can't work ATM due to physical health but yes I do agree with you that there are 'bums' out there who don't look for work and just sit on their bums ect, this is why so many people look down at people on benefits, I have worked since I was 15 now 20 and haven't been off work for near enough as long as some of these 'bums' but i/people in similar situations get put in the same category. It's not just those on benefits that litter that is just ridiculous to think that only people on benefits litter, it's lazy people that litter and people who can not be bothered to walk 10 steps to a rubbish bin. Lolliepop93

2:47pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Marie from Sutton says...

Hi Lolliepop93,
Sorry if it was not clear to you but what I was saying in my message was that by arranging this PR excercise after 9.00am and before 5.00pm, it excluded the vast majority of the Sutton working residents and the message from the London Borough of Sutton can be interpreted in that all those not working are the one dropping the litter and are not valuable members of our society. Also the message from our current government is the same ergo a disastrous PR exercise.
The fact of the matter is that the ones poluting the high street are mostly young teenagers, in groups, hoody wearing, tatoos showing, foul language speaking, hanging around McDonald all the way down to Asda. It is my misfortune to see them everyday.
Hi Lolliepop93, Sorry if it was not clear to you but what I was saying in my message was that by arranging this PR excercise after 9.00am and before 5.00pm, it excluded the vast majority of the Sutton working residents and the message from the London Borough of Sutton can be interpreted in that all those not working are the one dropping the litter and are not valuable members of our society. Also the message from our current government is the same ergo a disastrous PR exercise. The fact of the matter is that the ones poluting the high street are mostly young teenagers, in groups, hoody wearing, tatoos showing, foul language speaking, hanging around McDonald all the way down to Asda. It is my misfortune to see them everyday. Marie from Sutton

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