Taxi crashes into cars after driver 'falls asleep' at wheel in St Helier estate

The taxi crashed onto Mrs Crossby's driveway and into her car

The taxi crashed onto Mrs Crossby's driveway and into her car

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A cab driver ploughed into three parked cars after allegedly falling asleep at the wheel.

Grandparents Jean, 64, and Robert Crossby, 71, were woken up by a loud thud in the early hours of Sunday morning after a taxi careered into their drive and crashed into their Volkswagen Touareg, in Middleton Road, Carshalton.

Mrs Crossby, who has lived in the house for 40 years, looked out the window to see a taxi where her car normally sat while hers had been pushed sideways into the house.

She said: "I thought someone was breaking in. I woke my husband up and I thought someone was trying to break the door down.

"The back wheel was on my next door neighbour’s car. Luckily enough we’ve got a drive that’s got a step down - that’s the only thing that stopped it going through my house.

"It still hit the house but would have been worse - it would have gone straight through.

"I said to him, when I opened the door, ‘what have you done?’ and he said ‘I have had an accident’. I said ‘well you can see that’.

"My husband said ‘have you been drinking?’and he said ‘I fell asleep’.

"It is a dangerous road anyway. But you don’t expect that. It was a freak accident.

"The police breathalysed him and he was clear. We had to go and knock on the other neighbour’s doors and let them know their cars were involved. It was pretty unbelievable."

Mrs Crossby is set to get a replacement car and has reported the crash to Sutton Housing Partnership as a precaution - to make sure the house is still structurally sound.

A spokesperson for Sutton Police said they were called at 5.30am to reports of a car being involved in a collision with four parked vehicles and added: "One of the vehicles ended up in a resident’s garden.

"The driver’s details have been taken and sent to the Met’s traffic team for further investigation."


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2:25pm Thu 20 Feb 14

PeterM says...

Okay, let me get this right, a taxi driver in charge of 2.5 tonnes of machinery falls asleep at the wheel and Sutton Police effectively say "We're not going to do anything about this, we'll pass this onto some other department" yet when a group of teenagers climb a crane, and only put themselves in danger they want to 'deal with them robustly".

It just shows the attitude that the Met have to motorists and that they can get away with anything they want.

I've complained about dangerous driving from a London black cab driver and the Met have simply passed this onto TFL to deal with, who in turn did nothing.
Okay, let me get this right, a taxi driver in charge of 2.5 tonnes of machinery falls asleep at the wheel and Sutton Police effectively say "We're not going to do anything about this, we'll pass this onto some other department" yet when a group of teenagers climb a crane, and only put themselves in danger they want to 'deal with them robustly". It just shows the attitude that the Met have to motorists and that they can get away with anything they want. I've complained about dangerous driving from a London black cab driver and the Met have simply passed this onto TFL to deal with, who in turn did nothing. PeterM
  • Score: 2

2:43pm Thu 20 Feb 14

al the taxi says...

there is too much dangerous driving on londons,roads that's for sure.black cab drivers have to pass an enhanced driving test to get their badge.lots of motorist,dont know or stick to rules of the roads.
there is too much dangerous driving on londons,roads that's for sure.black cab drivers have to pass an enhanced driving test to get their badge.lots of motorist,dont know or stick to rules of the roads. al the taxi
  • Score: 2

6:53pm Thu 20 Feb 14

PeterM says...

al the taxi wrote:
there is too much dangerous driving on londons,roads that's for sure.black cab drivers have to pass an enhanced driving test to get their badge.lots of motorist,dont know or stick to rules of the roads.
I worked in London in the mid 80's and the best drivers on the road were black cab drivers, followed closely by London Transport bus drivers.

30 years later and I'm working in London again, but now the worst drivers on the road by far are black cab drivers. Not all cabbies are bad, but a significant number have dreadfully poor driving standards. If you report them using the Met Police Roadsafe website they simply respond saying we'll pass this onto TFL, who in turn do not respond to emails. It seems that cabbies can do no wrong.
[quote][p][bold]al the taxi[/bold] wrote: there is too much dangerous driving on londons,roads that's for sure.black cab drivers have to pass an enhanced driving test to get their badge.lots of motorist,dont know or stick to rules of the roads.[/p][/quote]I worked in London in the mid 80's and the best drivers on the road were black cab drivers, followed closely by London Transport bus drivers. 30 years later and I'm working in London again, but now the worst drivers on the road by far are black cab drivers. Not all cabbies are bad, but a significant number have dreadfully poor driving standards. If you report them using the Met Police Roadsafe website they simply respond saying we'll pass this onto TFL, who in turn do not respond to emails. It seems that cabbies can do no wrong. PeterM
  • Score: 3

7:05pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Michael Pantlin says...

I have been ferried around by Sutton Taxicard Service cabbies for years and can say that most of them are some of the nicest people I have met and very helpful too. I have always felt safe and comfortable in the back with their experienced and steady driving and have seen one remain calm under extreme provocation and abuse from a woman cyclist who startled me by banging on the side of the cab complaining she did not have enough room when she omitted to use the available bus lane next to her and then pulled alongside swearing at the lights out for a good row. The householders didn't sound very caring for the crashed driver who would have just suffered a big shock and would suffer many consequences for the crash which was an accident and not an action deliberately done against them.
I have been ferried around by Sutton Taxicard Service cabbies for years and can say that most of them are some of the nicest people I have met and very helpful too. I have always felt safe and comfortable in the back with their experienced and steady driving and have seen one remain calm under extreme provocation and abuse from a woman cyclist who startled me by banging on the side of the cab complaining she did not have enough room when she omitted to use the available bus lane next to her and then pulled alongside swearing at the lights out for a good row. The householders didn't sound very caring for the crashed driver who would have just suffered a big shock and would suffer many consequences for the crash which was an accident and not an action deliberately done against them. Michael Pantlin
  • Score: 6

7:22pm Thu 20 Feb 14

PeterM says...

Michael Pantlin wrote:
I have been ferried around by Sutton Taxicard Service cabbies for years and can say that most of them are some of the nicest people I have met and very helpful too. I have always felt safe and comfortable in the back with their experienced and steady driving and have seen one remain calm under extreme provocation and abuse from a woman cyclist who startled me by banging on the side of the cab complaining she did not have enough room when she omitted to use the available bus lane next to her and then pulled alongside swearing at the lights out for a good row. The householders didn't sound very caring for the crashed driver who would have just suffered a big shock and would suffer many consequences for the crash which was an accident and not an action deliberately done against them.
So if the cabby fell asleep and ran over and killed a family member of yours, you'd happily accept this as being a simple accident as he hadn't done this deliberately?

The problem is that the motor vehicle is seen as being sacred and you can get away with murder if you are driving a car/van/bus at the time
[quote][p][bold]Michael Pantlin[/bold] wrote: I have been ferried around by Sutton Taxicard Service cabbies for years and can say that most of them are some of the nicest people I have met and very helpful too. I have always felt safe and comfortable in the back with their experienced and steady driving and have seen one remain calm under extreme provocation and abuse from a woman cyclist who startled me by banging on the side of the cab complaining she did not have enough room when she omitted to use the available bus lane next to her and then pulled alongside swearing at the lights out for a good row. The householders didn't sound very caring for the crashed driver who would have just suffered a big shock and would suffer many consequences for the crash which was an accident and not an action deliberately done against them.[/p][/quote]So if the cabby fell asleep and ran over and killed a family member of yours, you'd happily accept this as being a simple accident as he hadn't done this deliberately? The problem is that the motor vehicle is seen as being sacred and you can get away with murder if you are driving a car/van/bus at the time PeterM
  • Score: 0

12:13am Fri 21 Feb 14

suttontaxi says...

New driver working all the hours fell asleep on Sutton taxi rank and the girl refused to get in his cab and got in miine who was behind. Thankfully he will now be an ex taxi driver the girl I can contact and make her contact the pco as well.
New driver working all the hours fell asleep on Sutton taxi rank and the girl refused to get in his cab and got in miine who was behind. Thankfully he will now be an ex taxi driver the girl I can contact and make her contact the pco as well. suttontaxi
  • Score: 6

8:22am Fri 21 Feb 14

PeterM says...

suttontaxi wrote:
New driver working all the hours fell asleep on Sutton taxi rank and the girl refused to get in his cab and got in miine who was behind. Thankfully he will now be an ex taxi driver the girl I can contact and make her contact the pco as well.
Sadly the PCO and TFL pay no attention to complaints about taxi drivers.
[quote][p][bold]suttontaxi[/bold] wrote: New driver working all the hours fell asleep on Sutton taxi rank and the girl refused to get in his cab and got in miine who was behind. Thankfully he will now be an ex taxi driver the girl I can contact and make her contact the pco as well.[/p][/quote]Sadly the PCO and TFL pay no attention to complaints about taxi drivers. PeterM
  • Score: 1

4:35pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Taxicab14 says...

PeterM wrote:
suttontaxi wrote:
New driver working all the hours fell asleep on Sutton taxi rank and the girl refused to get in his cab and got in miine who was behind. Thankfully he will now be an ex taxi driver the girl I can contact and make her contact the pco as well.
Sadly the PCO and TFL pay no attention to complaints about taxi drivers.
How wrong you are ,Taxi Private Hire at TFL take this type of thing VERY seriously and act on it as they will with this inccident , We take pride in our job and are voted BEST IN THE WORLD year after year ,We have a standard second to NONE ,I get the hint you dont like Black cabs for some reason judging by your posts ,
[quote][p][bold]PeterM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suttontaxi[/bold] wrote: New driver working all the hours fell asleep on Sutton taxi rank and the girl refused to get in his cab and got in miine who was behind. Thankfully he will now be an ex taxi driver the girl I can contact and make her contact the pco as well.[/p][/quote]Sadly the PCO and TFL pay no attention to complaints about taxi drivers.[/p][/quote]How wrong you are ,Taxi Private Hire at TFL take this type of thing VERY seriously and act on it as they will with this inccident , We take pride in our job and are voted BEST IN THE WORLD year after year ,We have a standard second to NONE ,I get the hint you dont like Black cabs for some reason judging by your posts , Taxicab14
  • Score: 2

4:53pm Fri 21 Feb 14

PeterM says...

Taxicab14 wrote:
PeterM wrote:
suttontaxi wrote:
New driver working all the hours fell asleep on Sutton taxi rank and the girl refused to get in his cab and got in miine who was behind. Thankfully he will now be an ex taxi driver the girl I can contact and make her contact the pco as well.
Sadly the PCO and TFL pay no attention to complaints about taxi drivers.
How wrong you are ,Taxi Private Hire at TFL take this type of thing VERY seriously and act on it as they will with this inccident , We take pride in our job and are voted BEST IN THE WORLD year after year ,We have a standard second to NONE ,I get the hint you dont like Black cabs for some reason judging by your posts ,
The reason that I have a particular view on black cabs is because I work in London and see the way that they drive, using mobile phones at the wheel, going through red lights etc.

Last year in August I was travelling along Oxford Street when a taxi overtook me so close we came into contact with each other, the driver simply drove off. I reported this to the Met Police, accompanied with full 1080HD video footage from my on board cameras (front and rear facing). They said that because this was a taxi they would pass this onto TFL and would not deal with it themselves. TFL have not responded to me and it's now six months later.

Talking to other road users who have had run ins with Black Cabs, they have had a similar lack of response, however, complain about a minicab, e,g, Addison Lee, and TFL will come down on them like a tonne of bricks.

The impression is that Black Cab drivers appear to get away with anything and everything.
[quote][p][bold]Taxicab14[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PeterM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suttontaxi[/bold] wrote: New driver working all the hours fell asleep on Sutton taxi rank and the girl refused to get in his cab and got in miine who was behind. Thankfully he will now be an ex taxi driver the girl I can contact and make her contact the pco as well.[/p][/quote]Sadly the PCO and TFL pay no attention to complaints about taxi drivers.[/p][/quote]How wrong you are ,Taxi Private Hire at TFL take this type of thing VERY seriously and act on it as they will with this inccident , We take pride in our job and are voted BEST IN THE WORLD year after year ,We have a standard second to NONE ,I get the hint you dont like Black cabs for some reason judging by your posts ,[/p][/quote]The reason that I have a particular view on black cabs is because I work in London and see the way that they drive, using mobile phones at the wheel, going through red lights etc. Last year in August I was travelling along Oxford Street when a taxi overtook me so close we came into contact with each other, the driver simply drove off. I reported this to the Met Police, accompanied with full 1080HD video footage from my on board cameras (front and rear facing). They said that because this was a taxi they would pass this onto TFL and would not deal with it themselves. TFL have not responded to me and it's now six months later. Talking to other road users who have had run ins with Black Cabs, they have had a similar lack of response, however, complain about a minicab, e,g, Addison Lee, and TFL will come down on them like a tonne of bricks. The impression is that Black Cab drivers appear to get away with anything and everything. PeterM
  • Score: 0

5:41pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Michael Pantlin says...

PeterM wrote:
Michael Pantlin wrote:
I have been ferried around by Sutton Taxicard Service cabbies for years and can say that most of them are some of the nicest people I have met and very helpful too. I have always felt safe and comfortable in the back with their experienced and steady driving and have seen one remain calm under extreme provocation and abuse from a woman cyclist who startled me by banging on the side of the cab complaining she did not have enough room when she omitted to use the available bus lane next to her and then pulled alongside swearing at the lights out for a good row. The householders didn't sound very caring for the crashed driver who would have just suffered a big shock and would suffer many consequences for the crash which was an accident and not an action deliberately done against them.
So if the cabby fell asleep and ran over and killed a family member of yours, you'd happily accept this as being a simple accident as he hadn't done this deliberately?

The problem is that the motor vehicle is seen as being sacred and you can get away with murder if you are driving a car/van/bus at the time
Read the article, nobody died.
[quote][p][bold]PeterM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Pantlin[/bold] wrote: I have been ferried around by Sutton Taxicard Service cabbies for years and can say that most of them are some of the nicest people I have met and very helpful too. I have always felt safe and comfortable in the back with their experienced and steady driving and have seen one remain calm under extreme provocation and abuse from a woman cyclist who startled me by banging on the side of the cab complaining she did not have enough room when she omitted to use the available bus lane next to her and then pulled alongside swearing at the lights out for a good row. The householders didn't sound very caring for the crashed driver who would have just suffered a big shock and would suffer many consequences for the crash which was an accident and not an action deliberately done against them.[/p][/quote]So if the cabby fell asleep and ran over and killed a family member of yours, you'd happily accept this as being a simple accident as he hadn't done this deliberately? The problem is that the motor vehicle is seen as being sacred and you can get away with murder if you are driving a car/van/bus at the time[/p][/quote]Read the article, nobody died. Michael Pantlin
  • Score: 2

6:07pm Fri 21 Feb 14

PeterM says...

Michael Pantlin wrote:
PeterM wrote:
Michael Pantlin wrote:
I have been ferried around by Sutton Taxicard Service cabbies for years and can say that most of them are some of the nicest people I have met and very helpful too. I have always felt safe and comfortable in the back with their experienced and steady driving and have seen one remain calm under extreme provocation and abuse from a woman cyclist who startled me by banging on the side of the cab complaining she did not have enough room when she omitted to use the available bus lane next to her and then pulled alongside swearing at the lights out for a good row. The householders didn't sound very caring for the crashed driver who would have just suffered a big shock and would suffer many consequences for the crash which was an accident and not an action deliberately done against them.
So if the cabby fell asleep and ran over and killed a family member of yours, you'd happily accept this as being a simple accident as he hadn't done this deliberately?

The problem is that the motor vehicle is seen as being sacred and you can get away with murder if you are driving a car/van/bus at the time
Read the article, nobody died.
I have read the article.

You have sympathised with and excused the driver, calling it an accident and saying that this was not done deliberately. Maybe so, but if you're a driver, particularly a professional driver, then you should not drive when you are tired.

You seem to adopt the usual "You can drive however you like and as dangerously as you like, just as long as you don't kill anyone" attitude that we see far too often these days.
[quote][p][bold]Michael Pantlin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PeterM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Pantlin[/bold] wrote: I have been ferried around by Sutton Taxicard Service cabbies for years and can say that most of them are some of the nicest people I have met and very helpful too. I have always felt safe and comfortable in the back with their experienced and steady driving and have seen one remain calm under extreme provocation and abuse from a woman cyclist who startled me by banging on the side of the cab complaining she did not have enough room when she omitted to use the available bus lane next to her and then pulled alongside swearing at the lights out for a good row. The householders didn't sound very caring for the crashed driver who would have just suffered a big shock and would suffer many consequences for the crash which was an accident and not an action deliberately done against them.[/p][/quote]So if the cabby fell asleep and ran over and killed a family member of yours, you'd happily accept this as being a simple accident as he hadn't done this deliberately? The problem is that the motor vehicle is seen as being sacred and you can get away with murder if you are driving a car/van/bus at the time[/p][/quote]Read the article, nobody died.[/p][/quote]I have read the article. You have sympathised with and excused the driver, calling it an accident and saying that this was not done deliberately. Maybe so, but if you're a driver, particularly a professional driver, then you should not drive when you are tired. You seem to adopt the usual "You can drive however you like and as dangerously as you like, just as long as you don't kill anyone" attitude that we see far too often these days. PeterM
  • Score: 2

1:59am Sat 22 Feb 14

Taxicab14 says...

PeterM wrote:
Taxicab14 wrote:
PeterM wrote:
suttontaxi wrote:
New driver working all the hours fell asleep on Sutton taxi rank and the girl refused to get in his cab and got in miine who was behind. Thankfully he will now be an ex taxi driver the girl I can contact and make her contact the pco as well.
Sadly the PCO and TFL pay no attention to complaints about taxi drivers.
How wrong you are ,Taxi Private Hire at TFL take this type of thing VERY seriously and act on it as they will with this inccident , We take pride in our job and are voted BEST IN THE WORLD year after year ,We have a standard second to NONE ,I get the hint you dont like Black cabs for some reason judging by your posts ,
The reason that I have a particular view on black cabs is because I work in London and see the way that they drive, using mobile phones at the wheel, going through red lights etc.

Last year in August I was travelling along Oxford Street when a taxi overtook me so close we came into contact with each other, the driver simply drove off. I reported this to the Met Police, accompanied with full 1080HD video footage from my on board cameras (front and rear facing). They said that because this was a taxi they would pass this onto TFL and would not deal with it themselves. TFL have not responded to me and it's now six months later.

Talking to other road users who have had run ins with Black Cabs, they have had a similar lack of response, however, complain about a minicab, e,g, Addison Lee, and TFL will come down on them like a tonne of bricks.

The impression is that Black Cab drivers appear to get away with anything and everything.
We do not get away with everthing, unlike cyclist who jump lights, ride on the pavement , crash in to cars ,ride listening to loud music ,spit at car drivers and buses, "no insurance " and generally ride like fools ,on some tour de London race .i have footage of this on MY camera but until you get a number plate and pay road fund licence i can do nothing ,
[quote][p][bold]PeterM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Taxicab14[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PeterM[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suttontaxi[/bold] wrote: New driver working all the hours fell asleep on Sutton taxi rank and the girl refused to get in his cab and got in miine who was behind. Thankfully he will now be an ex taxi driver the girl I can contact and make her contact the pco as well.[/p][/quote]Sadly the PCO and TFL pay no attention to complaints about taxi drivers.[/p][/quote]How wrong you are ,Taxi Private Hire at TFL take this type of thing VERY seriously and act on it as they will with this inccident , We take pride in our job and are voted BEST IN THE WORLD year after year ,We have a standard second to NONE ,I get the hint you dont like Black cabs for some reason judging by your posts ,[/p][/quote]The reason that I have a particular view on black cabs is because I work in London and see the way that they drive, using mobile phones at the wheel, going through red lights etc. Last year in August I was travelling along Oxford Street when a taxi overtook me so close we came into contact with each other, the driver simply drove off. I reported this to the Met Police, accompanied with full 1080HD video footage from my on board cameras (front and rear facing). They said that because this was a taxi they would pass this onto TFL and would not deal with it themselves. TFL have not responded to me and it's now six months later. Talking to other road users who have had run ins with Black Cabs, they have had a similar lack of response, however, complain about a minicab, e,g, Addison Lee, and TFL will come down on them like a tonne of bricks. The impression is that Black Cab drivers appear to get away with anything and everything.[/p][/quote]We do not get away with everthing, unlike cyclist who jump lights, ride on the pavement , crash in to cars ,ride listening to loud music ,spit at car drivers and buses, "no insurance " and generally ride like fools ,on some tour de London race .i have footage of this on MY camera but until you get a number plate and pay road fund licence i can do nothing , Taxicab14
  • Score: 3

8:55am Sat 22 Feb 14

PeterM says...

I also have footage on my cameras of taxis jumping red lights, parking on pedestrian crossings to pick up and drop off, and driving down one way streets the wrong way, I saw one just last week in Croydon driving the wrong way in George Street.

As for your comments, a few facts. 95% of cyclists DO have third party insurance, it comes free with every home insurance policy. As for Road Fund Licence, I presume you mean Vehicle Excise Duty (VED), cyclists pay exactly the same as the owners of a Toyota Prius, Fiat 500 all cars first registered prior to 1973 , all emergency vehicles (Police Cars, Ambulances), in fact over 1,000,000 motor vehicles on the road do not pat VED.
I also have footage on my cameras of taxis jumping red lights, parking on pedestrian crossings to pick up and drop off, and driving down one way streets the wrong way, I saw one just last week in Croydon driving the wrong way in George Street. As for your comments, a few facts. 95% of cyclists DO have third party insurance, it comes free with every home insurance policy. As for Road Fund Licence, I presume you mean Vehicle Excise Duty (VED), cyclists pay exactly the same as the owners of a Toyota Prius, Fiat 500 all cars first registered prior to 1973 , all emergency vehicles (Police Cars, Ambulances), in fact over 1,000,000 motor vehicles on the road do not pat VED. PeterM
  • Score: 2

6:56pm Mon 10 Mar 14

JackD0000 says...

Many Suburban black cab drivers in London are routinely working 16 hour shifts. They know it's not safe, but the only alternative is to go bankrupt.

Since the financial crises which saw business decline significantly, TFL has been pumping huge numbers of extra cabs into the suburbs, even allowing drivers who can't hold a conversation in English.

People who live in suburbs will have seen the endless lines off cabs outside even small suburban stations. If you saw the cabs ranking outside Richmond Station you might be forgiven for thinking that you were at Heathrow. Even little Twickenham, which never had any cabs until recently, now has rank which looks as if belongs at Waterloo.

This massive oversupply has left suburban black cab drivers earning a small fraction of the minimum wage. And in order to try to survive, they need to work all hours, and jump red-lights etc.

I would suggest that responsibility lies with the Mayor, not with the struggling drivers. There has been a massive regulatory failure, and accidents involving drivers falling asleep will surely be on the rise.

This would be a topic for a press investigation.
Many Suburban black cab drivers in London are routinely working 16 hour shifts. They know it's not safe, but the only alternative is to go bankrupt. Since the financial crises which saw business decline significantly, TFL has been pumping huge numbers of extra cabs into the suburbs, even allowing drivers who can't hold a conversation in English. People who live in suburbs will have seen the endless lines off cabs outside even small suburban stations. If you saw the cabs ranking outside Richmond Station you might be forgiven for thinking that you were at Heathrow. Even little Twickenham, which never had any cabs until recently, now has rank which looks as if belongs at Waterloo. This massive oversupply has left suburban black cab drivers earning a small fraction of the minimum wage. And in order to try to survive, they need to work all hours, and jump red-lights etc. I would suggest that responsibility lies with the Mayor, not with the struggling drivers. There has been a massive regulatory failure, and accidents involving drivers falling asleep will surely be on the rise. This would be a topic for a press investigation. JackD0000
  • Score: 0

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