Huge sports dome by nature reserve would be 'monstrous blob', resident fears

Resident Neill Denny has described the proposed dome as

Resident Neill Denny has described the proposed dome as "monstrous"

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A school wants to build a huge sports dome, dubbed a "monstrous blob" by one resident, on the edge of a nature reserve.

Nonsuch High School for Girls, in Ewell Road, Cheam, has submitted plans to Epsom Council for a 44ft (13.6m) tall air-supported dome, running track, pavilion and astroturf pitches.

The proposed dome would be the size of three netball courts next to Warren Farm which is comprised of grass and woods owned by conservation charity the Woodland Trust.

Sutton Guardian:

An example of a dome by the same company from a document submitted with the plans to the council 

Resident Neill Denny, who lives in nearby Holmwood Road, compared the scale of the 206ft (63m)-long dome to a four-storey office block, warehouse, aircraft hanger and medium-sized cruise ship.

He said the proposed dome, which would be continuously inflated by an air generator and sited on a ridge, would completely dominate the whole valley occupied by the Woodland Trust site.

"It is a monstrous, ugly blob that will wreck a natural landscape," Mr Denny said in an objection submitted the council.

Sutton Guardian:

"This scheme represents an uncalled for urbanisation of tranquil green space, and the imposition of artificial noise and light late into the night, and also, and significantly, out of term time. "This is nothing short of a new leisure centre by the back door."

The proposed site consists of a school sports field as well as a recreational area which has recently come into the school’s ownership.

To the east is Ewell Road, to the south is a railway line and trees and to the north is a David Lloyd sports centre, a private members’ club that already has its own sports dome.

The design statement said to the west there is a boundary hedge with mature trees including a ‘veteran oak’ near Nonsuch Park.

It proposes to minimise the visual impact of the dome by creating an earth berm covered in wild flowers around it, colouring the bottom half of the dome green and the top half white to mimic a tree line, and some limited landscaping.

Sutton Guardian:

It said: "The site will still retain its open character and there will be little visual change to the overall character of the site."

Under the plans an existing derelict sports pavilion and adjoining garage will be also demolished. At present the school has traditional sports and some access to the David Lloyd centre.

Sutton Guardian:

Peter Gale, headteacher of Nonsuch High School for Girls, said: "We appreciate that local residents will quite rightly want to raise questions.

"In the documentation submitted to Epsom and Ewell Borough Council we have explained how we will minimise light pollution and actually enhance the local natural environment.

"The aim of the project is to significantly enhance sporting facilities for the students and the wider community.

"We hope that as part of the Olympics legacy we will be able to encourage greater participation levels in sport and thus make a contribution to having a fitter and healthier local community.

"We are also working with local sports clubs who hope to use and benefit from the additional facilities.

Sutton Guardian:

Peter Gale, headteacher at Nonsuch High School for Girls 

"We are aware that many local clubs would like to offer greater opportunities to local community but do not have the facilities to do so.

"We are confident that these gains can be achieved without ruining the local environment."

Councillor Chris Frost, who represents Nonsuch ward on Epsom Council, said he had been told there would be patches of natural colours on the dome to camouflage it.

Sutton Guardian:

Mr Frost said: "While we like to see improvements to facilities for young people to enjoy sport, it must not be at the expense of residents. We have to balance what we want to see for one group with possible harm for another."

In one of several supportive comments submitted to the council, Mia Forbes, of Seaforth Avenue, New Malden, said: "The sports dome would provide more opportunities for students to pursue their hobbies, partake in PE lessons and may encourage some to take up new sports.

"Aesthetically it would not be an unsightly obstruction and could be lowered to reduce its height."

A spokeswoman at Woodland Trust said: "As I understand it, the planning application does reference trees that are part of Warren Farm so we will request that we are consulted about this before any work goes ahead.

"As the development does not directly affect ancient woodland, we will not be objecting to it in principle."

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6:19pm Wed 2 Apr 14

labyrinth says...

A monstrous blob indeed, and Mr Denny is no lone voice, but a representative of the majority who are horrified at this plan. What may be missed by some, is the fact that if this thing goes ahead, it will not just be for Nonsuch school, but will be used by many others - indeed, the school, as usual, makes that a selling point. Does this area need any more traffic? The roads around the school are already clogged up with the results of the policy of allowing pupils to apply from all over the place, instead of restricting entrance to local pupils.

This plan is for a horrible, ugly excrescence next to an area of wildlife. Sadly, the council have a habit of giving Nonsuch what it wants. Those of us who live in the area and have to suffer the traffic, do not want it - why are we never listened to?
A monstrous blob indeed, and Mr Denny is no lone voice, but a representative of the majority who are horrified at this plan. What may be missed by some, is the fact that if this thing goes ahead, it will not just be for Nonsuch school, but will be used by many others - indeed, the school, as usual, makes that a selling point. Does this area need any more traffic? The roads around the school are already clogged up with the results of the policy of allowing pupils to apply from all over the place, instead of restricting entrance to local pupils. This plan is for a horrible, ugly excrescence next to an area of wildlife. Sadly, the council have a habit of giving Nonsuch what it wants. Those of us who live in the area and have to suffer the traffic, do not want it - why are we never listened to? labyrinth
  • Score: 5

6:23pm Wed 2 Apr 14

labyrinth says...

"In one of several supportive comments submitted to the council, Mia Forbes, of...NEW MALDEN..." This would be hilarious if it were not so sad for local residents. How on earth is someone in NEW MALDEN, miles away, going to be affected by this?
"In one of several supportive comments submitted to the council, Mia Forbes, of...NEW MALDEN..." This would be hilarious if it were not so sad for local residents. How on earth is someone in NEW MALDEN, miles away, going to be affected by this? labyrinth
  • Score: 5

6:35pm Wed 2 Apr 14

labyrinth says...

This has apparently already been approved - permission was sought on March 7th, There was NO CONSULTATION with local residents - I live down the road and no letter was sent. This is an absolute disgrace.
This has apparently already been approved - permission was sought on March 7th, There was NO CONSULTATION with local residents - I live down the road and no letter was sent. This is an absolute disgrace. labyrinth
  • Score: 2

8:10am Thu 3 Apr 14

LiberalsOut says...

labyrinth wrote:
This has apparently already been approved - permission was sought on March 7th, There was NO CONSULTATION with local residents - I live down the road and no letter was sent. This is an absolute disgrace.
Surely after all this time you should know Council's never listen to the residents views ?
[quote][p][bold]labyrinth[/bold] wrote: This has apparently already been approved - permission was sought on March 7th, There was NO CONSULTATION with local residents - I live down the road and no letter was sent. This is an absolute disgrace.[/p][/quote]Surely after all this time you should know Council's never listen to the residents views ? LiberalsOut
  • Score: 3

1:13pm Thu 3 Apr 14

ticktock says...

i think its a great idea ,anything to benefit the school should get the go a head, I cant see why people have to object .



ok it dont look pretty just look at epsom station then you might have a re-think
i think its a great idea ,anything to benefit the school should get the go a head, I cant see why people have to object . ok it dont look pretty just look at epsom station then you might have a re-think ticktock
  • Score: -4

11:21am Fri 4 Apr 14

labyrinth says...

ticktock - you think that anything to benefit the school, should get the go-ahead? How utterly selfish. The school already has excellent facilities, including use of the David Lloyd centre, and this 'dome' would lead to a huge increase in traffic and parking problems in an already very congested area.

Epsom Station is spectacularly irrelevant here!
ticktock - you think that anything to benefit the school, should get the go-ahead? How utterly selfish. The school already has excellent facilities, including use of the David Lloyd centre, and this 'dome' would lead to a huge increase in traffic and parking problems in an already very congested area. Epsom Station is spectacularly irrelevant here! labyrinth
  • Score: 4

11:34am Fri 4 Apr 14

labyrinth says...

LiberalsOut wrote:
labyrinth wrote:
This has apparently already been approved - permission was sought on March 7th, There was NO CONSULTATION with local residents - I live down the road and no letter was sent. This is an absolute disgrace.
Surely after all this time you should know Council's never listen to the residents views ?
Neither Sutton nor Epsom council even asked for our views, never mind listen to them! Instead, they have consulted people living in Southall and New Malden, who cannot possibly be affected by this dome.
[quote][p][bold]LiberalsOut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]labyrinth[/bold] wrote: This has apparently already been approved - permission was sought on March 7th, There was NO CONSULTATION with local residents - I live down the road and no letter was sent. This is an absolute disgrace.[/p][/quote]Surely after all this time you should know Council's never listen to the residents views ?[/p][/quote]Neither Sutton nor Epsom council even asked for our views, never mind listen to them! Instead, they have consulted people living in Southall and New Malden, who cannot possibly be affected by this dome. labyrinth
  • Score: 1

7:23pm Fri 4 Apr 14

six characters says...

Another eyesore in an open and green part of the borough. This seems to have been kept very quiet, but it's not too late to object. Details on the Epsom & Ewell planning website under the reference 13/01517/FUL.
Another eyesore in an open and green part of the borough. This seems to have been kept very quiet, but it's not too late to object. Details on the Epsom & Ewell planning website under the reference 13/01517/FUL. six characters
  • Score: 3

11:01pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Small Blue says...

I am a naturalist and one of the conservation volunteers at Warren Farm who has been working there throughout the winter. I am already very concerned about the amount of light pollution coming from that area, spilling into the nature reserve. It is well documented that light pollution impacts on wildlife, especially bats which are endangered. Bats have been recorded both in Warren Farm and Nonsuch Park and can emerge early in the year if conditions are suitable. I would encourage as many people as possible to take the time to submit their objections to this proposal, which should be refused or at least fully and effectively mitigate for all the surrounding wildlife in the long-term.
I am a naturalist and one of the conservation volunteers at Warren Farm who has been working there throughout the winter. I am already very concerned about the amount of light pollution coming from that area, spilling into the nature reserve. It is well documented that light pollution impacts on wildlife, especially bats which are endangered. Bats have been recorded both in Warren Farm and Nonsuch Park and can emerge early in the year if conditions are suitable. I would encourage as many people as possible to take the time to submit their objections to this proposal, which should be refused or at least fully and effectively mitigate for all the surrounding wildlife in the long-term. Small Blue
  • Score: 4

1:37pm Sat 5 Apr 14

labyrinth says...

six characters wrote:
Another eyesore in an open and green part of the borough. This seems to have been kept very quiet, but it's not too late to object. Details on the Epsom & Ewell planning website under the reference 13/01517/FUL.
Well said. It would be nice to see some views on this proposal, from people who actually live at addresses such as Ewell Road, Queen's Acre, Anne Boleyn's Walk, and other local roads, instead of people from far distant locations.
[quote][p][bold]six characters[/bold] wrote: Another eyesore in an open and green part of the borough. This seems to have been kept very quiet, but it's not too late to object. Details on the Epsom & Ewell planning website under the reference 13/01517/FUL.[/p][/quote]Well said. It would be nice to see some views on this proposal, from people who actually live at addresses such as Ewell Road, Queen's Acre, Anne Boleyn's Walk, and other local roads, instead of people from far distant locations. labyrinth
  • Score: 1

8:10pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Neill Denny says...

Thnaks to all for supporting my stand against this absurd and grotesque monstrosity that Nonsuch are seeking to impose on us. A few observations on Alice Foster's excellent piece:-

1) The cosmetic colour scheme the school are proposing is lipsick on the proverbial pig. Painting it white and the top and green at the bottom is not going to make a 45ft tall blob magically disappear.
2) The grass banks (berms) will only be about one metre high, and they will be located at the southern edge of the dome, and will therefore not in any way shape of form prevent the dome from overlooking and dominating Warren Farm, which lies to the west of the domes sites, which is about five metres from the boundary fence.
3) Olympic legacy - as the head teacher says - what tosh! The school has left these playing fields virtually unused for years. If they really cared about sport they would at the very least have these two fields marked out as hockey pitches etc.
4) In the plans submitted to the council opening hours of 8am to 10pm are proposed - a radical extension of the hours that the school is currently open which raises the propsect of increased noise and traffic into the evenings, and that these facilities are going to be used by adult clubs year round.
5) The dome is translucent so it will glow at night when it is in use - an enormous white eyesore.
6) It's also worth pointing out that as well as the dome the school is proposing a floodlit full-size all-weather hockey pitch, lit by 44ft high floodlights, and a hard surface 400m running track. Not currently floodlit, but who knows? All told these developments will have a greater floor area than Henry VIII's entire Nonsuch Palace.

I would urge everyone who opposes this enormous and unnecessary development to go on to the council website and register an objection - I enclose the link at the bottom of this post. If you need to go through the main website the, reference numbr you need is 13/01517/FUL

I have just checked on the site and there are 39 comments, of which only 6 are objections. However, all the objectors (bar one) are very local to the site, from the immediate area round the school, while none of the supporters are. They are from Caterham, Waltonon Thames, New Maden, Carshalton, Stoneligh, Epsom, Ashford, Sydenham, Southall, West Moseley - not in any sense neighbours at all. Several are teachers at the school, and have put the school as their address - has it become a boarding school overnight? I think not.

Please object now, the full planning meeting where this will be debated is only a few short weeks away, After that, the bulldozers will roll. You won't get another chance to stop this urban sprawl from spoiling Warren Farm, and by extension Nonsuch Park itself.

Neill Denny


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Thnaks to all for supporting my stand against this absurd and grotesque monstrosity that Nonsuch are seeking to impose on us. A few observations on Alice Foster's excellent piece:- 1) The cosmetic colour scheme the school are proposing is lipsick on the proverbial pig. Painting it white and the top and green at the bottom is not going to make a 45ft tall blob magically disappear. 2) The grass banks (berms) will only be about one metre high, and they will be located at the southern edge of the dome, and will therefore not in any way shape of form prevent the dome from overlooking and dominating Warren Farm, which lies to the west of the domes sites, which is about five metres from the boundary fence. 3) Olympic legacy - as the head teacher says - what tosh! The school has left these playing fields virtually unused for years. If they really cared about sport they would at the very least have these two fields marked out as hockey pitches etc. 4) In the plans submitted to the council opening hours of 8am to 10pm are proposed - a radical extension of the hours that the school is currently open which raises the propsect of increased noise and traffic into the evenings, and that these facilities are going to be used by adult clubs year round. 5) The dome is translucent so it will glow at night when it is in use - an enormous white eyesore. 6) It's also worth pointing out that as well as the dome the school is proposing a floodlit full-size all-weather hockey pitch, lit by 44ft high floodlights, and a hard surface 400m running track. Not currently floodlit, but who knows? All told these developments will have a greater floor area than Henry VIII's entire Nonsuch Palace. I would urge everyone who opposes this enormous and unnecessary development to go on to the council website and register an objection - I enclose the link at the bottom of this post. If you need to go through the main website the, reference numbr you need is 13/01517/FUL I have just checked on the site and there are 39 comments, of which only 6 are objections. However, all the objectors (bar one) are very local to the site, from the immediate area round the school, while none of the supporters are. They are from Caterham, Waltonon Thames, New Maden, Carshalton, Stoneligh, Epsom, Ashford, Sydenham, Southall, West Moseley - not in any sense neighbours at all. Several are teachers at the school, and have put the school as their address - has it become a boarding school overnight? I think not. Please object now, the full planning meeting where this will be debated is only a few short weeks away, After that, the bulldozers will roll. You won't get another chance to stop this urban sprawl from spoiling Warren Farm, and by extension Nonsuch Park itself. Neill Denny http://eplanning.eps om-ewell.gov.uk/onli ne-applications/appl icationDetails.do?ac tiveTab=documents&ke yVal=N1ABMNGY8H000 Neill Denny
  • Score: 2

10:12pm Sat 5 Apr 14

labyrinth says...

Neill Denny wrote:
Thnaks to all for supporting my stand against this absurd and grotesque monstrosity that Nonsuch are seeking to impose on us. A few observations on Alice Foster's excellent piece:-

1) The cosmetic colour scheme the school are proposing is lipsick on the proverbial pig. Painting it white and the top and green at the bottom is not going to make a 45ft tall blob magically disappear.
2) The grass banks (berms) will only be about one metre high, and they will be located at the southern edge of the dome, and will therefore not in any way shape of form prevent the dome from overlooking and dominating Warren Farm, which lies to the west of the domes sites, which is about five metres from the boundary fence.
3) Olympic legacy - as the head teacher says - what tosh! The school has left these playing fields virtually unused for years. If they really cared about sport they would at the very least have these two fields marked out as hockey pitches etc.
4) In the plans submitted to the council opening hours of 8am to 10pm are proposed - a radical extension of the hours that the school is currently open which raises the propsect of increased noise and traffic into the evenings, and that these facilities are going to be used by adult clubs year round.
5) The dome is translucent so it will glow at night when it is in use - an enormous white eyesore.
6) It's also worth pointing out that as well as the dome the school is proposing a floodlit full-size all-weather hockey pitch, lit by 44ft high floodlights, and a hard surface 400m running track. Not currently floodlit, but who knows? All told these developments will have a greater floor area than Henry VIII's entire Nonsuch Palace.

I would urge everyone who opposes this enormous and unnecessary development to go on to the council website and register an objection - I enclose the link at the bottom of this post. If you need to go through the main website the, reference numbr you need is 13/01517/FUL

I have just checked on the site and there are 39 comments, of which only 6 are objections. However, all the objectors (bar one) are very local to the site, from the immediate area round the school, while none of the supporters are. They are from Caterham, Waltonon Thames, New Maden, Carshalton, Stoneligh, Epsom, Ashford, Sydenham, Southall, West Moseley - not in any sense neighbours at all. Several are teachers at the school, and have put the school as their address - has it become a boarding school overnight? I think not.

Please object now, the full planning meeting where this will be debated is only a few short weeks away, After that, the bulldozers will roll. You won't get another chance to stop this urban sprawl from spoiling Warren Farm, and by extension Nonsuch Park itself.

Neill Denny


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The hours of 8 am to 10 pm do indeed indicate that it will be used by adult clubs, and in fact the school has suggested as much, in saying that it will 'benefit the community.' No, it won't, of course! It will not only be an eyesore, but will add significantly to traffic and parking in this area, already suffering from excessive parking from parents of pupils at Nonsuch, who often come from far away. That of course explains all the approvals from places miles away from Cheam - they are probably parents who do not give a thought to this area.
Sutton Council were asked why there had been no consultation with residents in surrounding roads, and their reply was that it would not present much of a visual disadvantage! As if merely being an eyesore (tho that's bad enough!) were all that mattered!
[quote][p][bold]Neill Denny[/bold] wrote: Thnaks to all for supporting my stand against this absurd and grotesque monstrosity that Nonsuch are seeking to impose on us. A few observations on Alice Foster's excellent piece:- 1) The cosmetic colour scheme the school are proposing is lipsick on the proverbial pig. Painting it white and the top and green at the bottom is not going to make a 45ft tall blob magically disappear. 2) The grass banks (berms) will only be about one metre high, and they will be located at the southern edge of the dome, and will therefore not in any way shape of form prevent the dome from overlooking and dominating Warren Farm, which lies to the west of the domes sites, which is about five metres from the boundary fence. 3) Olympic legacy - as the head teacher says - what tosh! The school has left these playing fields virtually unused for years. If they really cared about sport they would at the very least have these two fields marked out as hockey pitches etc. 4) In the plans submitted to the council opening hours of 8am to 10pm are proposed - a radical extension of the hours that the school is currently open which raises the propsect of increased noise and traffic into the evenings, and that these facilities are going to be used by adult clubs year round. 5) The dome is translucent so it will glow at night when it is in use - an enormous white eyesore. 6) It's also worth pointing out that as well as the dome the school is proposing a floodlit full-size all-weather hockey pitch, lit by 44ft high floodlights, and a hard surface 400m running track. Not currently floodlit, but who knows? All told these developments will have a greater floor area than Henry VIII's entire Nonsuch Palace. I would urge everyone who opposes this enormous and unnecessary development to go on to the council website and register an objection - I enclose the link at the bottom of this post. If you need to go through the main website the, reference numbr you need is 13/01517/FUL I have just checked on the site and there are 39 comments, of which only 6 are objections. However, all the objectors (bar one) are very local to the site, from the immediate area round the school, while none of the supporters are. They are from Caterham, Waltonon Thames, New Maden, Carshalton, Stoneligh, Epsom, Ashford, Sydenham, Southall, West Moseley - not in any sense neighbours at all. Several are teachers at the school, and have put the school as their address - has it become a boarding school overnight? I think not. Please object now, the full planning meeting where this will be debated is only a few short weeks away, After that, the bulldozers will roll. You won't get another chance to stop this urban sprawl from spoiling Warren Farm, and by extension Nonsuch Park itself. Neill Denny http://eplanning.eps om-ewell.gov.uk/onli ne-applications/appl icationDetails.do?ac tiveTab=documents&am p;ke yVal=N1ABMNGY8H000[/p][/quote]The hours of 8 am to 10 pm do indeed indicate that it will be used by adult clubs, and in fact the school has suggested as much, in saying that it will 'benefit the community.' No, it won't, of course! It will not only be an eyesore, but will add significantly to traffic and parking in this area, already suffering from excessive parking from parents of pupils at Nonsuch, who often come from far away. That of course explains all the approvals from places miles away from Cheam - they are probably parents who do not give a thought to this area. Sutton Council were asked why there had been no consultation with residents in surrounding roads, and their reply was that it would not present much of a visual disadvantage! As if merely being an eyesore (tho that's bad enough!) were all that mattered! labyrinth
  • Score: 1

10:29pm Sat 5 Apr 14

labyrinth says...

I have just taken a look at the comments, and indeed all the supporting ones are nearly all from distant places, and virtually all of those supporting, say more or less the same thing - 'As a parent I support the school' and basically, 'Whatever the girls need, they must have.' This does not surprise me at all, and it so sad that, yet again, despite the hopes that things might change, Nonsuch school exists in its own little world and has utter contempt for the local residents amongst whom it lives.
I have just taken a look at the comments, and indeed all the supporting ones are nearly all from distant places, and virtually all of those supporting, say more or less the same thing - 'As a parent I support the school' and basically, 'Whatever the girls need, they must have.' This does not surprise me at all, and it so sad that, yet again, despite the hopes that things might change, Nonsuch school exists in its own little world and has utter contempt for the local residents amongst whom it lives. labyrinth
  • Score: 1

1:14pm Sun 6 Apr 14

six characters says...

See also http://cheam.mycounc
illor.org.uk/2014/04
/05/nonsuch-high-sch
ool-dome-and-pavilio
n/. Councillor Burstow provides further evidenceof how Epsom & Ewell are trying to hide the scale of the development from local people.
Also a shame that, as neighbours, the Woodland Trust (a conservation organisation!) aren't prepared to object to a development that affects the environment and wildlife.
See also http://cheam.mycounc illor.org.uk/2014/04 /05/nonsuch-high-sch ool-dome-and-pavilio n/. Councillor Burstow provides further evidenceof how Epsom & Ewell are trying to hide the scale of the development from local people. Also a shame that, as neighbours, the Woodland Trust (a conservation organisation!) aren't prepared to object to a development that affects the environment and wildlife. six characters
  • Score: 2

1:02am Mon 7 Apr 14

Mia Forbes says...

labyrinth wrote:
"In one of several supportive comments submitted to the council, Mia Forbes, of...NEW MALDEN..." This would be hilarious if it were not so sad for local residents. How on earth is someone in NEW MALDEN, miles away, going to be affected by this?
It affects me as I'm a student at Nonsuch and as I said I believe the benefits far outweight any detriments you believe it would have. 'Hilarious', I know. - Mia Forbes.
[quote][p][bold]labyrinth[/bold] wrote: "In one of several supportive comments submitted to the council, Mia Forbes, of...NEW MALDEN..." This would be hilarious if it were not so sad for local residents. How on earth is someone in NEW MALDEN, miles away, going to be affected by this?[/p][/quote]It affects me as I'm a student at Nonsuch and as I said I believe the benefits far outweight any detriments you believe it would have. 'Hilarious', I know. - Mia Forbes. Mia Forbes
  • Score: -3

11:23am Mon 7 Apr 14

labyrinth says...

Mia Forbes wrote:
labyrinth wrote:
"In one of several supportive comments submitted to the council, Mia Forbes, of...NEW MALDEN..." This would be hilarious if it were not so sad for local residents. How on earth is someone in NEW MALDEN, miles away, going to be affected by this?
It affects me as I'm a student at Nonsuch and as I said I believe the benefits far outweight any detriments you believe it would have. 'Hilarious', I know. - Mia Forbes.
You are a student at Nonsuch, but you do not live in the area, so you are not remotely 'affected' by it, of course! It would only be of benefit to you; it's a bit like asking a child if he wants Christmas to come!

However, for residents, it's more like asking a turkey if it wants Christmas! It is not 'hilarious' for local residents, but devastating. It will lead to a big increase in traffic and parking in this area, which already suffers from too much parking related to the school. Not only that, but it seems that the intention is to open it until 10pm - so the traffic and disturbance will go on, not to mention the illumination from this vast dome.

Your school dos not exist on an island, but in a local area where residents deserve, at least, to be consulted about so major a development.
[quote][p][bold]Mia Forbes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]labyrinth[/bold] wrote: "In one of several supportive comments submitted to the council, Mia Forbes, of...NEW MALDEN..." This would be hilarious if it were not so sad for local residents. How on earth is someone in NEW MALDEN, miles away, going to be affected by this?[/p][/quote]It affects me as I'm a student at Nonsuch and as I said I believe the benefits far outweight any detriments you believe it would have. 'Hilarious', I know. - Mia Forbes.[/p][/quote]You are a student at Nonsuch, but you do not live in the area, so you are not remotely 'affected' by it, of course! It would only be of benefit to you; it's a bit like asking a child if he wants Christmas to come! However, for residents, it's more like asking a turkey if it wants Christmas! It is not 'hilarious' for local residents, but devastating. It will lead to a big increase in traffic and parking in this area, which already suffers from too much parking related to the school. Not only that, but it seems that the intention is to open it until 10pm - so the traffic and disturbance will go on, not to mention the illumination from this vast dome. Your school dos not exist on an island, but in a local area where residents deserve, at least, to be consulted about so major a development. labyrinth
  • Score: 3

11:33am Mon 7 Apr 14

Small Blue says...

It is sad that these young people are not being encouraged to appreciate living in harmony with the earth's natural systems of night and day, winter and summer etc. Also, it takes energy and resources to operate all the additional lighting proposed, most of the dome's power supply and heat loss, and users' coming in their vehicles, so hardly a good lesson in sustainable living considering the crisis we are in with climate change! The proposal sounds like an entire stadium within what the school's website describes as "22 acres of beautiful grounds on the edge of Nonsuch Park". Is Nonsuch High School For Girls planning to become a sports academy? A browse through the school's "Full Calendar" on their website illustrates how well-provisioned these students already are and begs the question, why this extreme new proposal is necessary for them considering how comprehensive their "calendar" already is? Is this school so lacking in facilities and in desperate need of regeneration on such a scale, that it can justify this major impact within a suburban, historical and environmentally sensitive area? This is an inappropriate increase of urbanisation and the late-night society of the inner London area.
It is sad that these young people are not being encouraged to appreciate living in harmony with the earth's natural systems of night and day, winter and summer etc. Also, it takes energy and resources to operate all the additional lighting proposed, most of the dome's power supply and heat loss, and users' coming in their vehicles, so hardly a good lesson in sustainable living considering the crisis we are in with climate change! The proposal sounds like an entire stadium within what the school's website describes as "22 acres of beautiful grounds on the edge of Nonsuch Park". Is Nonsuch High School For Girls planning to become a sports academy? A browse through the school's "Full Calendar" on their website illustrates how well-provisioned these students already are and begs the question, why this extreme new proposal is necessary for them considering how comprehensive their "calendar" already is? Is this school so lacking in facilities and in desperate need of regeneration on such a scale, that it can justify this major impact within a suburban, historical and environmentally sensitive area? This is an inappropriate increase of urbanisation and the late-night society of the inner London area. Small Blue
  • Score: 3

1:11pm Mon 7 Apr 14

six characters says...

Small Blue wrote:
It is sad that these young people are not being encouraged to appreciate living in harmony with the earth's natural systems of night and day, winter and summer etc. Also, it takes energy and resources to operate all the additional lighting proposed, most of the dome's power supply and heat loss, and users' coming in their vehicles, so hardly a good lesson in sustainable living considering the crisis we are in with climate change! The proposal sounds like an entire stadium within what the school's website describes as "22 acres of beautiful grounds on the edge of Nonsuch Park". Is Nonsuch High School For Girls planning to become a sports academy? A browse through the school's "Full Calendar" on their website illustrates how well-provisioned these students already are and begs the question, why this extreme new proposal is necessary for them considering how comprehensive their "calendar" already is? Is this school so lacking in facilities and in desperate need of regeneration on such a scale, that it can justify this major impact within a suburban, historical and environmentally sensitive area? This is an inappropriate increase of urbanisation and the late-night society of the inner London area.
Quite agree!
The school website promotes the "numerous activities" already on offer, including: netball, hockey, football, gymnastics, badmington, tennis, rounders and athletics. Do they really need any more?
With over 50 parking spaces, and proposed operating hours of 8 a.m. to 10 p.m., not just on weekdays but also wekeends and bank holidays, this is clearly a commercial operation.
[quote][p][bold]Small Blue[/bold] wrote: It is sad that these young people are not being encouraged to appreciate living in harmony with the earth's natural systems of night and day, winter and summer etc. Also, it takes energy and resources to operate all the additional lighting proposed, most of the dome's power supply and heat loss, and users' coming in their vehicles, so hardly a good lesson in sustainable living considering the crisis we are in with climate change! The proposal sounds like an entire stadium within what the school's website describes as "22 acres of beautiful grounds on the edge of Nonsuch Park". Is Nonsuch High School For Girls planning to become a sports academy? A browse through the school's "Full Calendar" on their website illustrates how well-provisioned these students already are and begs the question, why this extreme new proposal is necessary for them considering how comprehensive their "calendar" already is? Is this school so lacking in facilities and in desperate need of regeneration on such a scale, that it can justify this major impact within a suburban, historical and environmentally sensitive area? This is an inappropriate increase of urbanisation and the late-night society of the inner London area.[/p][/quote]Quite agree! The school website promotes the "numerous activities" already on offer, including: netball, hockey, football, gymnastics, badmington, tennis, rounders and athletics. Do they really need any more? With over 50 parking spaces, and proposed operating hours of 8 a.m. to 10 p.m., not just on weekdays but also wekeends and bank holidays, this is clearly a commercial operation. six characters
  • Score: 3

6:35pm Wed 9 Apr 14

labyrinth says...

six characters wrote:
Small Blue wrote:
It is sad that these young people are not being encouraged to appreciate living in harmony with the earth's natural systems of night and day, winter and summer etc. Also, it takes energy and resources to operate all the additional lighting proposed, most of the dome's power supply and heat loss, and users' coming in their vehicles, so hardly a good lesson in sustainable living considering the crisis we are in with climate change! The proposal sounds like an entire stadium within what the school's website describes as "22 acres of beautiful grounds on the edge of Nonsuch Park". Is Nonsuch High School For Girls planning to become a sports academy? A browse through the school's "Full Calendar" on their website illustrates how well-provisioned these students already are and begs the question, why this extreme new proposal is necessary for them considering how comprehensive their "calendar" already is? Is this school so lacking in facilities and in desperate need of regeneration on such a scale, that it can justify this major impact within a suburban, historical and environmentally sensitive area? This is an inappropriate increase of urbanisation and the late-night society of the inner London area.
Quite agree!
The school website promotes the "numerous activities" already on offer, including: netball, hockey, football, gymnastics, badmington, tennis, rounders and athletics. Do they really need any more?
With over 50 parking spaces, and proposed operating hours of 8 a.m. to 10 p.m., not just on weekdays but also wekeends and bank holidays, this is clearly a commercial operation.
Nonsuch school does not care very much about this historical and environmentally sensitive area, and one can see why that is - most of the pupils do not come from anywhere around it. They are driven here, or get the bus / train, and then go home. They do not have to deal with the parking problems or rat run traffic which they cause, and children usually do not think about those things. They should, maybe, but they don't. The situation will only get worse once the planned expansion of the school is under way.
[quote][p][bold]six characters[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Small Blue[/bold] wrote: It is sad that these young people are not being encouraged to appreciate living in harmony with the earth's natural systems of night and day, winter and summer etc. Also, it takes energy and resources to operate all the additional lighting proposed, most of the dome's power supply and heat loss, and users' coming in their vehicles, so hardly a good lesson in sustainable living considering the crisis we are in with climate change! The proposal sounds like an entire stadium within what the school's website describes as "22 acres of beautiful grounds on the edge of Nonsuch Park". Is Nonsuch High School For Girls planning to become a sports academy? A browse through the school's "Full Calendar" on their website illustrates how well-provisioned these students already are and begs the question, why this extreme new proposal is necessary for them considering how comprehensive their "calendar" already is? Is this school so lacking in facilities and in desperate need of regeneration on such a scale, that it can justify this major impact within a suburban, historical and environmentally sensitive area? This is an inappropriate increase of urbanisation and the late-night society of the inner London area.[/p][/quote]Quite agree! The school website promotes the "numerous activities" already on offer, including: netball, hockey, football, gymnastics, badmington, tennis, rounders and athletics. Do they really need any more? With over 50 parking spaces, and proposed operating hours of 8 a.m. to 10 p.m., not just on weekdays but also wekeends and bank holidays, this is clearly a commercial operation.[/p][/quote]Nonsuch school does not care very much about this historical and environmentally sensitive area, and one can see why that is - most of the pupils do not come from anywhere around it. They are driven here, or get the bus / train, and then go home. They do not have to deal with the parking problems or rat run traffic which they cause, and children usually do not think about those things. They should, maybe, but they don't. The situation will only get worse once the planned expansion of the school is under way. labyrinth
  • Score: 1

9:11pm Wed 23 Apr 14

ewell says...

I sympathise with residents who have not been consulted on this, I really do.

One thing I would love to raise though is why do these institutions now believe that their children cannot play sports in the elements? What is with all the mollycoddling? They could still install a 3g playing surface but why the need for it to be indoors?
I sympathise with residents who have not been consulted on this, I really do. One thing I would love to raise though is why do these institutions now believe that their children cannot play sports in the elements? What is with all the mollycoddling? They could still install a 3g playing surface but why the need for it to be indoors? ewell
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