Traffic chaos fears as tribute concert and school open evening clash in Cheam

An Abba tribute show in aid of St Raphael’s Hospice in 2013

An Abba tribute show in aid of St Raphael’s Hospice in 2013

First published in News

A tribute concert and a school open evening are set to clash, sparking fears of a bottleneck, parking problems and traffic chaos.

St Raphael’s Hospice is holding an Elton John and Abba tribute show in Nonsuch Park, Cheam, on Thursday, July 10, with gates opening from 6pm.

On the same evening Nonsuch High School for Girls, in Ewell Road by the park, is opening its doors to prospective students between 4pm and 8.30pm.

Sutton Guardian:

The crowds at the tribute show in aid of the hospice last year

Sutton Councillor Mary Burstow, who represents Cheam ward, fears that there will be a bottleneck at the park gates as thousands of people arrive by car for the events.

Coun Burstow said: "Some people coming to the concert expecting to park nice and easily are going to have problems."

Sutton Guardian:

Nonsuch High School for Girls

She said the school is being asked to present its traffic management plan at a Nonsuch Park Joint Management Committee today.

Of the school open evening, she said: "They have forgotten to tell the neighbours.

"The neighbours in this case are Nonsuch Park and the joint management committee."

Headmaster Peter Gale said they had notified the statutory authority in plenty of time.

Mr Gale said: "The school open evening was agreed at a meeting with other Sutton schools summer 2013."

He added: "This information has been with the [London Borough of Sutton] for about one year and on the school website since September 2013.

"The school has considered how it can help to alleviate the problem and this has been conveyed to the relevant authority."

Sheelagh McCarthy, head of corporate, community and events fundraising at St Raphael's Hospice, said they were only informed of the school open evening on Thursday.

Ms McCarthy said marshals will be supervising a grass parking area for concertgoers only near two public car parks at the park entrance.

She said: "We are not really foreseeing it as an issue. We have put things in place."

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4:13pm Mon 30 Jun 14

labyrinth says...

Yet again, utter contempt for local residents. Parking will spill onto local roads, there will be massive noise until the early hours...what will it be like if Nonsuch get their way with the grotesque Dome which they are planning? One of these events is more than enough, two is unbearable. What benefit does Nonsuch school confer on local residents? None. Just contempt.
Yet again, utter contempt for local residents. Parking will spill onto local roads, there will be massive noise until the early hours...what will it be like if Nonsuch get their way with the grotesque Dome which they are planning? One of these events is more than enough, two is unbearable. What benefit does Nonsuch school confer on local residents? None. Just contempt. labyrinth
  • Score: -1

7:14pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Lewis2014 says...

Nonsuch High School for Girls have shown utter disinterest in their local community yet again by their decision to hold their open evening without informing the committee that manage Nonsuch Park (or local residents). It appears that they are providing completely inadequate parking provision for the number of expected visitors. Are they are just assuming that they can use Nonsuch Park car parks and local roads as usual?

The charity concert attracts up to 1500 visitors and the school had over 1600 applicants sitting the exam for entrance into year 7 in 2013 according to their website, so I can imagine the school event will be anticipating an equivalent number of visitors for its open day between 4.30-8.30pm. We could see as many as 3000 extra visitors to Nonsuch Park area on the 10th July.

In previous years the charity concert has been run incredibly smoothly I presume with good communication with the park committee as the Park provides extra temporary parking and there are marshalls to direct traffic. The concert has always been a great success and is enormously popular. What are the School trying to do to mitigate the parking and traffic chaos that their open day will will cause? As far as I can see there is no guidance on where to park for the open day on the schools website. The end result of two big events happening on one night will be that our local roads will be flooded with cars trying to find parking for these two events.

On a normal day our roads get used as parking overflow/rat runs. On the Nonsuch entrance exam day we get flooded with extra cars parking, local residents find it impossible to park. With up to 3000 extra people coming into Cheam on just ONE night, it will be a perfect storm of traffic chaos. Additionally, as Nonsuch Park has a one in one out parking entrance, the traffic congestion down Ewell Road is could be horrendous.

The school has not bothered to discuss the large sports centre, including the deeply unpopular Dome, which they are planning to build overlooking Warren Farm with local residents and hear their views. If the school cannot manage to communicate with its neighbours Nonsuch Park Management Committee and Cheam residents over just ONE event, how can they possibly manage to run a huge sports complex with all the traffic and parking issues it will cause.
Nonsuch High School for Girls have shown utter disinterest in their local community yet again by their decision to hold their open evening without informing the committee that manage Nonsuch Park (or local residents). It appears that they are providing completely inadequate parking provision for the number of expected visitors. Are they are just assuming that they can use Nonsuch Park car parks and local roads as usual? The charity concert attracts up to 1500 visitors and the school had over 1600 applicants sitting the exam for entrance into year 7 in 2013 according to their website, so I can imagine the school event will be anticipating an equivalent number of visitors for its open day between 4.30-8.30pm. We could see as many as 3000 extra visitors to Nonsuch Park area on the 10th July. In previous years the charity concert has been run incredibly smoothly I presume with good communication with the park committee as the Park provides extra temporary parking and there are marshalls to direct traffic. The concert has always been a great success and is enormously popular. What are the School trying to do to mitigate the parking and traffic chaos that their open day will will cause? As far as I can see there is no guidance on where to park for the open day on the schools website. The end result of two big events happening on one night will be that our local roads will be flooded with cars trying to find parking for these two events. On a normal day our roads get used as parking overflow/rat runs. On the Nonsuch entrance exam day we get flooded with extra cars parking, local residents find it impossible to park. With up to 3000 extra people coming into Cheam on just ONE night, it will be a perfect storm of traffic chaos. Additionally, as Nonsuch Park has a one in one out parking entrance, the traffic congestion down Ewell Road is could be horrendous. The school has not bothered to discuss the large sports centre, including the deeply unpopular Dome, which they are planning to build overlooking Warren Farm with local residents and hear their views. If the school cannot manage to communicate with its neighbours Nonsuch Park Management Committee and Cheam residents over just ONE event, how can they possibly manage to run a huge sports complex with all the traffic and parking issues it will cause. Lewis2014
  • Score: 0

8:46am Tue 1 Jul 14

Reggie of cheam says...

As a local resident who lives just a stones throw from Nonsuch Girls School I am beginning to feel more and more penned in by this school. They NEVER consult local residents when these open days/testing days are due. We suffer constant abuse from the parents of these children when they are using our roads as rat runs and drop off points for the school. The school have now made this into a parking competition with a local charity, these concerts are always well organised and supported but as normal Nonsuch Girls believe they own Cheam Village and can do exactly as they want. Clearly not happy with trying to make our village into a town by planting a huge unwanted dome on the edge of Warren Farm they now want to wreck our charity nights!
As a local resident who lives just a stones throw from Nonsuch Girls School I am beginning to feel more and more penned in by this school. They NEVER consult local residents when these open days/testing days are due. We suffer constant abuse from the parents of these children when they are using our roads as rat runs and drop off points for the school. The school have now made this into a parking competition with a local charity, these concerts are always well organised and supported but as normal Nonsuch Girls believe they own Cheam Village and can do exactly as they want. Clearly not happy with trying to make our village into a town by planting a huge unwanted dome on the edge of Warren Farm they now want to wreck our charity nights! Reggie of cheam
  • Score: 3

11:44am Tue 1 Jul 14

Mr S.P Williams says...

Why did Nonsuch High School for Girls not notify Nonsuch Park if they were planning a big event and are expecting to use the Park's car parks? Since they didn't notify the Park Management Committee DIRECTLY they should not be allowed to use the Nonsuch Park car parks for parking on the 10th July. The charity event DID notify the Park and therefore should have priority. This could have been so easily avoided if the school had a mindset of communicating with its neighbours instead sitting in an ivory tower. Where does the school expect these cars to go if they cannot use the Park... Anne Boleyns Walk, Jubilee Rd, Roberts Close and Queens Acre no doubt!
Why did Nonsuch High School for Girls not notify Nonsuch Park if they were planning a big event and are expecting to use the Park's car parks? Since they didn't notify the Park Management Committee DIRECTLY they should not be allowed to use the Nonsuch Park car parks for parking on the 10th July. The charity event DID notify the Park and therefore should have priority. This could have been so easily avoided if the school had a mindset of communicating with its neighbours instead sitting in an ivory tower. Where does the school expect these cars to go if they cannot use the Park... Anne Boleyns Walk, Jubilee Rd, Roberts Close and Queens Acre no doubt! Mr S.P Williams
  • Score: 3

12:37pm Tue 1 Jul 14

Neill Denny says...

Sadly symptomatic of Nonsuch's general view of the local community. The park is run by a joint management committee that has an open meeting once a quarter anyone can go to. Surely it's not beyond the wit of man for the head teacher to inform the head of the JMC (Mary Burstow, if you're listening Nonsuch) and tell them what their dates are for the year ahead. Relying on some council middle-man to pass on the message is clearly not working. I was at the meeting yesterday and the news of this ****-up came as a complete shock to the councillors.

On the night the school should allow parking on its playing field rather than simply cluttering up Cheam village and Nonsuch Park with their prospective parents' cars. They used to hold car boot sales on the playing fields, and quite soon they are hoping to concrete them over with a sports dome and running track so they are hardly likely to care much about the state of the turf. All they would need to do is stick a few 6th formers in high-viz jackets to direct the traffic.

The one useful effect of next Thursday is that it will be a nice taster of what life will be like if they get planning permission for the news sports complex. Happy days!

Neill Denny
Sadly symptomatic of Nonsuch's general view of the local community. The park is run by a joint management committee that has an open meeting once a quarter anyone can go to. Surely it's not beyond the wit of man for the head teacher to inform the head of the JMC (Mary Burstow, if you're listening Nonsuch) and tell them what their dates are for the year ahead. Relying on some council middle-man to pass on the message is clearly not working. I was at the meeting yesterday and the news of this ****-up came as a complete shock to the councillors. On the night the school should allow parking on its playing field rather than simply cluttering up Cheam village and Nonsuch Park with their prospective parents' cars. They used to hold car boot sales on the playing fields, and quite soon they are hoping to concrete them over with a sports dome and running track so they are hardly likely to care much about the state of the turf. All they would need to do is stick a few 6th formers in high-viz jackets to direct the traffic. The one useful effect of next Thursday is that it will be a nice taster of what life will be like if they get planning permission for the news sports complex. Happy days! Neill Denny Neill Denny
  • Score: 4

1:54pm Tue 1 Jul 14

labyrinth says...

Reggie of cheam wrote:
As a local resident who lives just a stones throw from Nonsuch Girls School I am beginning to feel more and more penned in by this school. They NEVER consult local residents when these open days/testing days are due. We suffer constant abuse from the parents of these children when they are using our roads as rat runs and drop off points for the school. The school have now made this into a parking competition with a local charity, these concerts are always well organised and supported but as normal Nonsuch Girls believe they own Cheam Village and can do exactly as they want. Clearly not happy with trying to make our village into a town by planting a huge unwanted dome on the edge of Warren Farm they now want to wreck our charity nights!
Very well said. There was a time when Nonsuch school was part of the local community, with most of its pupils from the borough. Now, it is just a magnet school, with most pupils being driven in from miles away. Yes, indeed - the girls there are rude, arrogant and have the attitude of 'We are Nonsuch, we can do as we like.'

A perfect example is indeed the huge unwanted dome - on the planning page of the council, you can read for & against comments, with virtually every single one in favour being from pupils, staff and governors of Nonsuch - many giving the school as their home address! -whilst virtually all those against are from local people who would have to suffer the traffic, noise and wrecking of the environment which the thing would cause.
[quote][p][bold]Reggie of cheam[/bold] wrote: As a local resident who lives just a stones throw from Nonsuch Girls School I am beginning to feel more and more penned in by this school. They NEVER consult local residents when these open days/testing days are due. We suffer constant abuse from the parents of these children when they are using our roads as rat runs and drop off points for the school. The school have now made this into a parking competition with a local charity, these concerts are always well organised and supported but as normal Nonsuch Girls believe they own Cheam Village and can do exactly as they want. Clearly not happy with trying to make our village into a town by planting a huge unwanted dome on the edge of Warren Farm they now want to wreck our charity nights![/p][/quote]Very well said. There was a time when Nonsuch school was part of the local community, with most of its pupils from the borough. Now, it is just a magnet school, with most pupils being driven in from miles away. Yes, indeed - the girls there are rude, arrogant and have the attitude of 'We are Nonsuch, we can do as we like.' A perfect example is indeed the huge unwanted dome - on the planning page of the council, you can read for & against comments, with virtually every single one in favour being from pupils, staff and governors of Nonsuch - many giving the school as their home address! -whilst virtually all those against are from local people who would have to suffer the traffic, noise and wrecking of the environment which the thing would cause. labyrinth
  • Score: -1

1:58pm Tue 1 Jul 14

labyrinth says...

Mr S.P Williams wrote:
Why did Nonsuch High School for Girls not notify Nonsuch Park if they were planning a big event and are expecting to use the Park's car parks? Since they didn't notify the Park Management Committee DIRECTLY they should not be allowed to use the Nonsuch Park car parks for parking on the 10th July. The charity event DID notify the Park and therefore should have priority. This could have been so easily avoided if the school had a mindset of communicating with its neighbours instead sitting in an ivory tower. Where does the school expect these cars to go if they cannot use the Park... Anne Boleyns Walk, Jubilee Rd, Roberts Close and Queens Acre no doubt!
Yes, of course, the surrounding roads will suffer as they always do, and the school does nothing about it. I spoke to two sets of parents at one of the 'open evenings' & both made remarks to the effect of 'Oh, it will be fine when she comes here.' Yes - no doubt they will be amongst the ones parking over residents' drives in Anne Boleyn's Walk, and zooming down that road at 50 mph.
[quote][p][bold]Mr S.P Williams[/bold] wrote: Why did Nonsuch High School for Girls not notify Nonsuch Park if they were planning a big event and are expecting to use the Park's car parks? Since they didn't notify the Park Management Committee DIRECTLY they should not be allowed to use the Nonsuch Park car parks for parking on the 10th July. The charity event DID notify the Park and therefore should have priority. This could have been so easily avoided if the school had a mindset of communicating with its neighbours instead sitting in an ivory tower. Where does the school expect these cars to go if they cannot use the Park... Anne Boleyns Walk, Jubilee Rd, Roberts Close and Queens Acre no doubt![/p][/quote]Yes, of course, the surrounding roads will suffer as they always do, and the school does nothing about it. I spoke to two sets of parents at one of the 'open evenings' & both made remarks to the effect of 'Oh, it will be fine when she comes here.' Yes - no doubt they will be amongst the ones parking over residents' drives in Anne Boleyn's Walk, and zooming down that road at 50 mph. labyrinth
  • Score: 2

10:04pm Tue 1 Jul 14

Mr S.P Williams says...

I have read the comments here, and it illustrates the strength of feeling locally. Why does the school not feel its community is important? All the other local schools value and engage with their 'neighbours'. The schools failure to notify the park is just again illustrates their disinterest in their community. The school has access to the Nonsuch Park car parks during term time for parents to drop off and pick up their kids, why is it abusing this privilege by assuming it is theirs to use at all other times regardless of what other activities are planned. Who pays for the upkeep to their heavy usage of the park roads and car parks...the Park and therefore the residents through their council tax.

The deeply unpopular Dome development again underlines that the school does not care what residents feel, traffic and parking are already big issues in Cheam Village, the Ewell Rd is not suitable for a large additional sports development, and with insufficient parking the overspill will end up on local residential roads. The school promised to meet with residents to talk about this development and hear their views, but we have heard nothing from them.

I find the schools complete arrogance in planning this development without consulting with residents or Sutton Council astounding. They are a School, not a property developer, I might have expected this kind of attitude from a property developer BUT Schools are supposed to promote community! I think its a deeply depressing state of affairs when a School has no interest in those residents who live next to them.
I have read the comments here, and it illustrates the strength of feeling locally. Why does the school not feel its community is important? All the other local schools value and engage with their 'neighbours'. The schools failure to notify the park is just again illustrates their disinterest in their community. The school has access to the Nonsuch Park car parks during term time for parents to drop off and pick up their kids, why is it abusing this privilege by assuming it is theirs to use at all other times regardless of what other activities are planned. Who pays for the upkeep to their heavy usage of the park roads and car parks...the Park and therefore the residents through their council tax. The deeply unpopular Dome development again underlines that the school does not care what residents feel, traffic and parking are already big issues in Cheam Village, the Ewell Rd is not suitable for a large additional sports development, and with insufficient parking the overspill will end up on local residential roads. The school promised to meet with residents to talk about this development and hear their views, but we have heard nothing from them. I find the schools complete arrogance in planning this development without consulting with residents or Sutton Council astounding. They are a School, not a property developer, I might have expected this kind of attitude from a property developer BUT Schools are supposed to promote community! I think its a deeply depressing state of affairs when a School has no interest in those residents who live next to them. Mr S.P Williams
  • Score: 0

6:12pm Wed 2 Jul 14

labyrinth says...

Mr S.P Williams wrote:
I have read the comments here, and it illustrates the strength of feeling locally. Why does the school not feel its community is important? All the other local schools value and engage with their 'neighbours'. The schools failure to notify the park is just again illustrates their disinterest in their community. The school has access to the Nonsuch Park car parks during term time for parents to drop off and pick up their kids, why is it abusing this privilege by assuming it is theirs to use at all other times regardless of what other activities are planned. Who pays for the upkeep to their heavy usage of the park roads and car parks...the Park and therefore the residents through their council tax.

The deeply unpopular Dome development again underlines that the school does not care what residents feel, traffic and parking are already big issues in Cheam Village, the Ewell Rd is not suitable for a large additional sports development, and with insufficient parking the overspill will end up on local residential roads. The school promised to meet with residents to talk about this development and hear their views, but we have heard nothing from them.

I find the schools complete arrogance in planning this development without consulting with residents or Sutton Council astounding. They are a School, not a property developer, I might have expected this kind of attitude from a property developer BUT Schools are supposed to promote community! I think its a deeply depressing state of affairs when a School has no interest in those residents who live next to them.
The answer is arrogance, and I'm afraid it has ever been thus at Nonsuch. It has got much worse, though, since it stopped being a semi-local school and became a magnet school. It has never been a 'community' school, and is even less so now that the majority of pupils have nothing to do with the local area. Their attitude is that we should all be grateful to have them in our midst, and they are doing us a massive favour.
[quote][p][bold]Mr S.P Williams[/bold] wrote: I have read the comments here, and it illustrates the strength of feeling locally. Why does the school not feel its community is important? All the other local schools value and engage with their 'neighbours'. The schools failure to notify the park is just again illustrates their disinterest in their community. The school has access to the Nonsuch Park car parks during term time for parents to drop off and pick up their kids, why is it abusing this privilege by assuming it is theirs to use at all other times regardless of what other activities are planned. Who pays for the upkeep to their heavy usage of the park roads and car parks...the Park and therefore the residents through their council tax. The deeply unpopular Dome development again underlines that the school does not care what residents feel, traffic and parking are already big issues in Cheam Village, the Ewell Rd is not suitable for a large additional sports development, and with insufficient parking the overspill will end up on local residential roads. The school promised to meet with residents to talk about this development and hear their views, but we have heard nothing from them. I find the schools complete arrogance in planning this development without consulting with residents or Sutton Council astounding. They are a School, not a property developer, I might have expected this kind of attitude from a property developer BUT Schools are supposed to promote community! I think its a deeply depressing state of affairs when a School has no interest in those residents who live next to them.[/p][/quote]The answer is arrogance, and I'm afraid it has ever been thus at Nonsuch. It has got much worse, though, since it stopped being a semi-local school and became a magnet school. It has never been a 'community' school, and is even less so now that the majority of pupils have nothing to do with the local area. Their attitude is that we should all be grateful to have them in our midst, and they are doing us a massive favour. labyrinth
  • Score: -1

6:14pm Wed 2 Jul 14

labyrinth says...

Just a little note to add to this, is anyone from either the school or the park aware that that date is also when there is to be a major firefighters' strike, as well as strikes in other areas of public service such as transport and teaching?
Just a little note to add to this, is anyone from either the school or the park aware that that date is also when there is to be a major firefighters' strike, as well as strikes in other areas of public service such as transport and teaching? labyrinth
  • Score: -1

9:08am Thu 3 Jul 14

labyrinth says...

Reggie of cheam wrote:
As a local resident who lives just a stones throw from Nonsuch Girls School I am beginning to feel more and more penned in by this school. They NEVER consult local residents when these open days/testing days are due. We suffer constant abuse from the parents of these children when they are using our roads as rat runs and drop off points for the school. The school have now made this into a parking competition with a local charity, these concerts are always well organised and supported but as normal Nonsuch Girls believe they own Cheam Village and can do exactly as they want. Clearly not happy with trying to make our village into a town by planting a huge unwanted dome on the edge of Warren Farm they now want to wreck our charity nights!
They never consult, it's true - but they do send out a letter saying that it's happening & that they have told parents to try to come by public transport and to be aware that local roads have limited parking. Which, of course, the parents totally ignore, arriving by car and parking all over the place - which the lucky ones will continue to do for the next seven years!
[quote][p][bold]Reggie of cheam[/bold] wrote: As a local resident who lives just a stones throw from Nonsuch Girls School I am beginning to feel more and more penned in by this school. They NEVER consult local residents when these open days/testing days are due. We suffer constant abuse from the parents of these children when they are using our roads as rat runs and drop off points for the school. The school have now made this into a parking competition with a local charity, these concerts are always well organised and supported but as normal Nonsuch Girls believe they own Cheam Village and can do exactly as they want. Clearly not happy with trying to make our village into a town by planting a huge unwanted dome on the edge of Warren Farm they now want to wreck our charity nights![/p][/quote]They never consult, it's true - but they do send out a letter saying that it's happening & that they have told parents to try to come by public transport and to be aware that local roads have limited parking. Which, of course, the parents totally ignore, arriving by car and parking all over the place - which the lucky ones will continue to do for the next seven years! labyrinth
  • Score: -2

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