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Is Banksy Croydon-Beddington mural vandalism or art? You decide

Is Banksy Croydon-Beddington mural vandalism or art? You decide Is Banksy Croydon-Beddington mural vandalism or art? You decide

The fate of a guerrilla mural by graffiti artist Banksy hangs in the balance as the public are asked to decide whether it should be scrubbed or preserved.

The satirical image features a punk standing next to a cardboard box marked IEAK apparently reading instructions on how to put together a graffiti slogan.

Sutton Council’s two dedicated street cleansing teams are normally ready to pounce on any graffiti as soon as it is reported.

But the mural, which features on the world-famous street artist’s official website, has left the council scratching its head.

On this occasion the council have chosen to ask residents whether the image near superstore Ikea on Coomber Way, on the border of Croydon and Beddington, should be removed or left.

Executive member for environment Councillor Colin Hall said: “We have dedicated teams in Sutton that remove graffiti on a daily basis.

“It’s hugely antisocial and something that we work quickly to eradicate.

“However, we know people hold strong views on Banksy’s work with some seeing it as art while others view it as vandalism.

“We will therefore be keeping an open mind on this and await feedback from the public before deciding what to do with the wall.”

Earlier this month a mural by Banksy, which once featured on the cover of a single by rock band Blur, was painted over by Hackney Council.

The spoof image of the Royal Family, painted on the side of a building in Stoke Newington was partially covered with black paint.

People can email their views to artorgraffiti@sutton.gov.uk.

Vote online at suttonguardian.co.uk Banksy or bust?

FOR AND AGAINST YES Matt Frith, partner and owner of Frith Frames, which specialises in picture framing, restoration and has a small on-site art gallery, said it was “awesome” to have a Banksy work in Sutton.

Mr Frith, 39, said: “His work is known all over the world, he is one of the most famous British artists. People tear their legs off to get a Banksy, they can sell for up to £250,000.

“Some people are scared of graffitti, they think it is all hoodies and tags, but really they represent something very different, they can be educational and reflect a political view.

“This could be a huge tourist draw for Sutton, it’s a massive tribute.”

AGAINST Conservative Opposition Leader on Sutton Council, Councillor Paul Scully, said: “One man’s artwork is another man’s graffiti.

“However, spray-paint vandalism which no resident has asked for is not artwork.

“Our State of Sutton report shows graffiti of any kind to be a magnet for antisocial behaviour.

“Studies show 62 per cent of residents feel their area has declined as a result of antisocial behaviour, with well over a third saying environmental cleanliness has got worse.

“The Liberal Democrat-run council needs to get off the fence before Banksy sprays it.”

BANKSY WHO?

• Banksy is the Scarlet Pimpernel of modern art, so adept at keeping his identity a mystery that even his own agent has said he is not sure.

• Believed to be from Yate, near Bristol, Banksy’s artworks are often satirical pieces on topics such as politics, culture, and ethics.

• His work has appeared in cities around the world and was born out of the Bristol underground scene – collaboration between art and music.

• Some of Banksy’s pieces have fetched a high price. In 2007, a picture of pensioners bowling with bombs sold for £102,000.

• In November 2006, a gang of thieves dressed as council workmen attempted to steal a Banksy piece painted on the door of a building in Liverpool.

• On June 13, 2009, the Banksy UK Summer show opened at Bristol City Museum and Art Gallery, featuring more than 100 works of art.

• What do you think? Let us know by email here, phone the newsdesk on 020 8330 9555 or leave a comment below.

Comments(11)

Alex_Bradford says...
8:29pm Tue 6 Oct 09

Does anyone think our wonderful liberal Council's 'do nothing' response will do anything except encourage graffiti?

What are Sutton's lib dems saying here? Graffiti's bad but if someone says it's good, they daren't argue? How predictably gutless!

jono77 says...
11:06pm Tue 6 Oct 09

Banksy is one of the greatest living British artists. The likes of Damien Hirst, Tracey Emin etc pale into total insignificance by comparison.

I don't see any work by Banksy as ' graffiti ' - indeed, this is a complete misunderstanding of what is actually being done by the man. Every work that suddenly appears by him is a gift - to the local community first, and secondly to society as a whole. His pieces are living comments, they reflect our present ways. Any council in Britain should be proud to have one appear anywhere in the borough, and the only talk concerning action re. the work should be how to best preserve it.
This is not an artist who hides his work in fancy private exhibitions, or demands reverence for meaningless trivia: he walks among us ( albeit quietly ) and leaves true works of art we can recognise, admire and understand.

The time has come for debate to end and Banksy's works to be given the real reward & preservation they are due

theavengers says...
10:23am Wed 7 Oct 09

Why has this guy been hyped up? Is he froma wealthy family with a big pr company or some sor of Emin type? Obviously art is inthe eye of the beholder, but if a person does ask for it, ie it is painted on a public wall without permission, this becomes vandalism. I love Warhol but I wouldn't have wanted him to have painted a mural on the side of my home or business. That would be grafitti. People have been told to think this is art, it is total pr bull like so many "artists" are sold to us. If this guy wasn't in hiding then no one would care. It's a carefully crafted stunt to gain publicity (and money) and the gulliable yuppies fall for it.

ohdearyme says...
1:29pm Wed 7 Oct 09

I love Banksy's work. Keep it I say.


Can anyone tell me if Banksy has ever been arrested for Criminal Damager?

ohdearyme says...
3:52pm Wed 7 Oct 09

Damage*

MRS. BOB PEEL says...
4:05pm Wed 7 Oct 09

His graffiti is only OK if he does it after having asked permission from whoever owns the walls in question.

Oblomov says...
6:42pm Wed 7 Oct 09

Art is not in the eye of the beholder and the correct adgae is beauty is in the eye of the beholder... and No.. Banksy does not come from some rich family or have a PR/ Marketing and is most definetley not like Tracey Emin.. The label 'Graffiti' does not give credit to the polical comment, to the originality, to the composition or the use of stencils....a title 'Street Art' would be more appropriate... cover it, frame it and charge people for looking...

Oblomov says...
6:42pm Wed 7 Oct 09

Art is not in the eye of the beholder and the correct adgae is beauty is in the eye of the beholder... and No.. Banksy does not come from some rich family or have a PR/ Marketing and is most definetley not like Tracey Emin.. The label 'Graffiti' does not give credit to the polical comment, to the originality, to the composition or the use of stencils....a title 'Street Art' would be more appropriate... cover it, frame it and charge people for looking...

jono77 says...
12:51am Thu 8 Oct 09

If Banksy's work was rubbish, someone merely signing his name on a wall, leaving a ' tag ', then THAT would be graffiti: meaningless, ugly and a blight to the eye.

Surely the time has come to respect the difference between a defacer of public areas, and an enhancer..? Banksy's works, at the very least, bring a barren space to life and engender comment. Look at them: they are often beautiful and always display an extraordinary level of skill & imagination. The blend of those two qualities make for a real artist, and Banksy surely is one.

He is doing ALL of us a favour. Does he demand payment? No. Does he demand anything? No, and all we can do is to bang on about whether or not his work is nothing more than defacement. Come on, Britain - for goodness sake wake up: smell the roses, see the stars, and see the value staring you right in the face. Life is more than a factory - even if you are trapped in one in your head. This is not East Germany, a police state, or a grey, concrete communist hell hole populated by the walking dead. Yet.
Banksy is part of our colour, so for goodness' sake let it shine.

Alex_Bradford says...
5:00pm Thu 8 Oct 09

It’s graffiti, it’s vandalism and it’s criminal damage. It’s certainly not a case of one law for Banksy and another for the rest of us. Thankfully, indeed, this isn’t East Germany, but this now graffitied wall is as attractive and welcome as East Germany’s Berlin Wall was and certainly is as welcome as a concrete hell hole in an ex-communist, police state. May I suggest a solution? Perhaps one or more of these ardent Banksy followers, who passionately disagree, might like to put their money where their mouth is and make a generous offer to Sutton Council for this wall, which the Council can’t refuse. Then, they can sit and look at it until they wake up and smell the roses. As for the rest of us, like the East Germans today, we can all be happy without our lives being blighted by an East Berlin-style graffitied wall.

There is no need for Banksy to indulge in criminal acts. Personally, I’m more than happy to regularly erect walls for Banksy to deface and sell them to his ardent supporters for a fortune. Of course, I’m not for a moment suggesting that the whole concept is just a great big con, designed to gain publicity and turn it into money. Furthermore, I am in no way implying that Banksy is simply laughing all the way to the bank. But, if I can make profit out of his junk, sorry, art, I’m very happy to jump on the ‘Art with a capital F’ bandwagon and (for a price) I am happy to rigorously defend him, just as anyone else with a vested financial interest is, and who have woken up and smelt the money.

jono77 says...
1:08am Fri 9 Oct 09

Banksy seems indifferent to profit-making from his ' public works '. I'm pretty sure none of them has a price-tag. I'd personally have no interest in making profit from his works. Some of his detractors would possibly be quite happy with the idea of selling that which they openly dismiss as ' junk ' for profit to anyone who may wish to buy. I suppose we all have different values.

The Council appears to be in a bit of a quandary about whether Banksy's work is vandalism or not. Or, rather publicly-admired vandalism or not. And thankfully, as some strains of the democratic way still linger on in the UK, they appear to be leaving any decision to the voice of the people. Good for them, I say.

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