Stop the Incinerator Campaign march in Croydon

Dave Pettener Dave Pettener

Campaigners opposed to the Beddington incinerator will march on a town hall in protest against the plans.

The demonstration, organised by the Stop the Incinerator Campaign, will see protestors march from outside Croyon University Hospital to Croydon Town Hall on Sunday, May 13, at 11am.

Campaigners plan to lay a wreath on the steps "to symbolize health risks associated with burning rubbish and the fact democracy in Croydon is dead".

They said Croydon University Hospital was chosen as the start point because it is close to the epicentre of the emissions plume from the incinerator, and would bear the brunt of an alleged anticipated increase in respiratory diseases and other health effects.

Dave Pettener, from the campaign, said: "We have been lied to, misled and manipulated ever since the incinerator proposals first came to light four years ago.

"Not that you were allowed to call it an incinerator - it was going to be a technology neutral energy recovery waste treatment facility.

He branded a consultation over the development a "sham".

He added: "A portion of the rubbish going to the incinerator will be commercial and industrial waste and some figures suggest that 97 per cent of that waste could be recycled if the facilities were provided.

"Clearly it makes sense to provide those facilities and avoid burning rubbish altogether, but the councils have left it up to big business to decide what is the best way to deal with our rubbish."

Green Party and campaign member, Shasha Khan, said: "A large number of residents and shopkeepers on London Road have recently joined the Stop the Incinerator Campaign, mainly due to the coverage in the local newspapers.

"As a result of this recent influx, and the frustration felt by this community, many of whom were affected by the riots, the committee of the Stop The Incinerator Campaign has called for a march.

"It is clear this issue is burning - quite literally - and we would urge everyone, whatever your political colours, to join us on the march."

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Comments(18)

ArfurTowcrate says...
1:08pm Tue 8 May 12

I'll be joining this march, and making it clear to the Waddon Conservative councillors who broke their 2010 election promise to "Oppose any incinerator being built in Croydon or on the border of Sutton" that their days are numbered.

Dr.S.Prokop says...
1:28pm Tue 8 May 12

Last Wednesday, King’s College Environmental Research group published a damning new report on the air quality around the Lewisham incinerator. Beddington and Croydon residents please note. King’s put numbers to the extra dangerous particles at 1.84 times the background counts. International standards for increased mortality (themselves conservative) suggest rises of 9.2% in cardiac mortality,11.4 % rises in general mortality and up to 38.64% rises in respiratory mortality for the local populations,if these figures were all year. Research also suggests that severe asthma attacks requiring hospital admission are 700% higher than the national average and 70% higher than the London rate around such facilities.

Incinerator companies have done little to allow the general public to know what happens to air quality around their chimneys and transfer stations. This new study throws clear light on what, till now, has been a very murky area. It is part of an extensive set of studies of “dusts” around waste transfer stations, whose content of transitional metals makes them more damaging to health.They contribute 27% to the dangerous dusts around them.
http://www.londonair
.org.uk/london/repor
ts/PM10_from_waste_s
ites_Mercury_Way.pdf

Michael Pantlin says...
2:29pm Tue 8 May 12

Dr.S.Prokop wrote:
Last Wednesday, King’s College Environmental Research group published a damning new report on the air quality around the Lewisham incinerator. Beddington and Croydon residents please note. King’s put numbers to the extra dangerous particles at 1.84 times the background counts. International standards for increased mortality (themselves conservative) suggest rises of 9.2% in cardiac mortality,11.4 % rises in general mortality and up to 38.64% rises in respiratory mortality for the local populations,if these figures were all year. Research also suggests that severe asthma attacks requiring hospital admission are 700% higher than the national average and 70% higher than the London rate around such facilities.

Incinerator companies have done little to allow the general public to know what happens to air quality around their chimneys and transfer stations. This new study throws clear light on what, till now, has been a very murky area. It is part of an extensive set of studies of “dusts” around waste transfer stations, whose content of transitional metals makes them more damaging to health.They contribute 27% to the dangerous dusts around them.
http://www.londonair

.org.uk/london/repor

ts/PM10_from_waste_s

ites_Mercury_Way.pdf
If the severe asthma attacks requiring hospital admission increase don't forget we have just been softened up by NHS Management PR releases to hear shortly that the Major A&E department at our St. Helier Hospital is set to be shut down requiring an emergency run through the traffic jams to Kingston or Croydon or Tooting. We need a good Save St. Helier March too.

Waddon-Local says...
2:53pm Tue 8 May 12

More shameless opportunism from lame duck Labour leader Tony Newman. He seems to use protests and local meetings to distract his group from the disastrous campaigns he has consistently delivered. Who can forget his ludicrous campaign to overturn the Waddon election results using taxpayers’ money?

Newman can launch as many attacks as he likes with his nasty little cronies at Inside Croydon but nobody will forget his Labour group’s 27% Council tax rise which hurt hardworking families.

DRAKEKNIGHT says...
4:14pm Tue 8 May 12

ITS A BIG NO! We the citizens of Croydon are being lied too, why so secret,why are crafty unaccountable clear accounts of the public demands being ignored. WE the public demand our employees THE LOCAL AUTHORITY account for actions which justify this incinerator? AGAIN the north borough wards are being dump on the public health of this borough is being compromised for PROFIT.
IF Thames Water throughout last year could not control the stench, coming from Beddinton Farm, which the north of the borough had to put up with for months due to a simple piece of equipment being replaced then are we to be poison by fumes, or across the board environmental issue regarding the company proposing this incinerator being put above the public's safety.
Its to late after a poisoning or is that the point a good poisoning cuts the complaint cue????

DARAKEKNIGHT

ANNE GILES says...
4:23pm Tue 8 May 12

More asthma attacks are caused by parents who smoke all over their children. Why not ban parents from smoking as well?

ANNE GILES says...
4:24pm Tue 8 May 12

And what exactly is a march going to achieve, anyway?

Krissi says...
4:24pm Tue 8 May 12

probably as if there are less people there are less to complain and usually it is the people whose health is affected who need to complain anyway- and as for the Beddington sewage aroma de skunk- that's been around since I moved there as a young teenager so at least 40 years- depending on where the wind blew from, so I would say it's stuck- or should I say stunk for at least until a new way of getting rid of sewage is invented

christhegoth says...
6:46pm Tue 8 May 12

Yup, it's gonna throw out crud into the air. And that crud will drift over North Croydon, making people more ill than they already are from the pollution and any smoking they do.

Seeing as smoking is self-inflicted let's ignore that. Busy roads will add bad air. As will this unit. And it all adds up. Now, take away the rather stupid comparison with a bonfire some have bandied about, and extend exposure to the 20 year period used in Europe and... It DEFINITELY all adds up.

And not everyone is an ironman super-tough this that and t'other. The weakest will be the first to fall. As they typically are. Those with the weakest immune systems. Like the elderly for example. Nice eh?

All because the Croydon Torys broke their oath. And then tried to mislead the public that an Energy Reclamation Unit did not involve burning stuff.

But then most of their councillors would not know one end of a powerstation from the other. Engineers, they are not.

christhegoth says...
6:50pm Tue 8 May 12

Waddon-Local wrote:
More shameless opportunism from lame duck Labour leader Tony Newman. He seems to use protests and local meetings to distract his group from the disastrous campaigns he has consistently delivered. Who can forget his ludicrous campaign to overturn the Waddon election results using taxpayers’ money?

Newman can launch as many attacks as he likes with his nasty little cronies at Inside Croydon but nobody will forget his Labour group’s 27% Council tax rise which hurt hardworking families.
What has a Council Tax rise got to do with ~200,000 North Croydonians being exposed to some pretty nasty chemical stuff by The Torys? I don't see the relevance.

And considering the Adult Social Care budget has been raided I'm really wondering if you even understand the maths of a Council. Those Council Tax rises happened so that the elderly and disabled could be supported better.

And the Torys have raided this money, and are also about to gas North Croydon.

I'm just not seeing your point.

christhegoth says...
6:53pm Tue 8 May 12

Do we know what temperature this thing is going to burn at yet? Is it a plasma unit?

That's going to be very relevant to emissions. The older units did this:

http://www.countrydo
ctor.co.uk/precis/pr
ecis%20-%20Incinerat
or%20deaths%20and%20
morbidity.htm

Plasma units are slightly cleaner but still not perfect.

carshalton_dan says...
8:06pm Tue 8 May 12

What good is a march going to do?

At the end of the day it's on an Industrial Estate and that's what we have Industrial Estates for isn't it?...

Everybody loves the Ikea chimney now as an Iconic building, but what do you think that chucked out once?

If you can't put these kinds of things on an Industrial Estate, where can you put them?

ArfurTowcrate says...
7:20am Wed 9 May 12

Waddon-Local wrote:
More shameless opportunism from lame duck Labour leader Tony Newman. He seems to use protests and local meetings to distract his group from the disastrous campaigns he has consistently delivered. Who can forget his ludicrous campaign to overturn the Waddon election results using taxpayers’ money?

Newman can launch as many attacks as he likes with his nasty little cronies at Inside Croydon but nobody will forget his Labour group’s 27% Council tax rise which hurt hardworking families.
Stop trying to fog and dodge the issue, which is that people do not want an incinerator.

If you want to bring petty party politics into it, start by telling us why the Waddon Conservatives promised in 2010 that they would "oppose any incinerator being built in Croydon or on the border of Sutton" and are now supporting it.

ArfurTowcrate says...
7:21am Wed 9 May 12

ANNE GILES wrote:
More asthma attacks are caused by parents who smoke all over their children. Why not ban parents from smoking as well?
Dear Anne, your beloved Phil Thomas will turn all of us into smokers if this daft scheme goes ahead.

ArfurTowcrate says...
7:23am Wed 9 May 12

carshalton_dan wrote:
What good is a march going to do?

At the end of the day it's on an Industrial Estate and that's what we have Industrial Estates for isn't it?...

Everybody loves the Ikea chimney now as an Iconic building, but what do you think that chucked out once?

If you can't put these kinds of things on an Industrial Estate, where can you put them?
Don't put "them" anywhere; we don't need an incinerator, and we don't need to roll back to the days of dark satanic mills when "air quality" wasn't heard of and people died in London's infamous pea-soupers.

christhegoth says...
10:51am Wed 9 May 12

carshalton_dan wrote:
What good is a march going to do?

At the end of the day it's on an Industrial Estate and that's what we have Industrial Estates for isn't it?...

Everybody loves the Ikea chimney now as an Iconic building, but what do you think that chucked out once?

If you can't put these kinds of things on an Industrial Estate, where can you put them?
In areas where the air is not already polluted. So that any impact due to extra 'fumes' ( in simple terms ) is less.

Polluted areas already have health problems. Adding more 'fumes' will just increase said health problems. And the cloud of 'fumes' will pass over North Croydon as well. It won't just hang around on the estate.

Which is interesting. As The Torys are dumping their problem on the Labour North of the Borough whilst using safe South Croydon Tory seats to do it. Once again we have this theme of the South of the Borough dumping its' problems on The North.

Elle81 says...
11:02am Wed 9 May 12

No amount of marching or protesting is going to make a difference to the decision! Big, fat brown envelopes stuffed with money have been passed round the council, Viridor & the MP's. They all have their pockets stuff with cash & to them thats all that matters! It's all about money & deep down we all know it.

Nessa2011 says...
11:31am Wed 9 May 12

I think the incinerator is a bad idea because of the health risks, traffic congestion and the effect on local house prices. But I also think it is a bad idea because it is investing in a process that is already becoming outdated.

Resources are getting increasingly scarce. We will be obliged to salvage more and more materials from the rubbish that is thrown away. It seems stupid to send them up in smoke. Waste not, want not...

I will be on the march. I don't expect it will make a difference but neither does sitting at home complaining about things. I think one of the reasons that this site has been chosen is because they think nobody will be bothered to complain. Can you imagine the reaction if they dared to propose it in Islington?

As Elle81 points out, we all know why the council has pushed this through - but lets not give them an easy ride :-)

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