St Helier should lose A&E and maternity, says panel (From Sutton Guardian)
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St Helier should lose A&E and maternity, says panel
4:15pm Wednesday 9th May 2012 in News By Sophia Sleigh, Reporter
St Helier Hospital faces its darkest day after an NHS review panel recommended it lose its Accident and Emergency and maternity departments.
Hospital staff could lose their jobs, while more lives in Sutton could be lost as critically ill residents and expectant mums face significantly increased journey times to hospital.
This newspaper is launching a campaign to Save St Helier Hospital from losing the frontline departments so vital to its community.
Today, a panel of 60 representatives made up from SW London hospital trusts, local authority members and community representatives recommended St Helier lose its frontline services over Croydon University and Kingston hospital.
They scored each hospital as part of the Better Service, Better Value healthcare review, which announced two months ago one of the hospitals faced the cuts.
It is expected that St Helier hospital will now host a new planned surgery centre and a “range of other services”.
The recommendation will be ratified by various boards before a three month public consultation begins and a final decision is taken by the NHS.
During that time this newspaper will fight to have the recommendation thrown out.
The future of the promised £219m refurbishment is also now uncertain.
MP for Carshalton and Wallington, Tom Brake, said: “This is very disappointing news, I would urge the BSBV team to look at the facts and predictions.
“The demand for A&E has been increasing in recent years and there is a spurt in the number of births locally.
“These factors point to the need to maintain our A&E and maternity.”
Health minister Paul Burstow, MP for Sutton and Cheam, was born at St Helier.
He said: "This is a flawed conclusion from a flawed process. There is still a lot of water to flow under the bridge before final decisions are made.
"The panel have ignored the pressure on all the A&Es and maternity units in south west London.
"A cloud has gathered over St Helier but I believe we can mount a successful challenge to the assumptions that have led the panel to this conclusion.
"We have saved St Helier before, and we will fight to do so again."
Kevin O’Brien, Unison representative at Epsom, St Helier and Sutton Hospitals, said: “It’s absolutely appalling that on the day of the Queen’s speech they bring in this legislation.
“This whole scenario is absolute rubbish, they are treating the public with absolute contempt.
“I have a view that if you close our A&E it is the demise of our hospital.
“Without an A&E department – just like Sutton – once your A&E is gone you are no longer functioning as a district hospital.
“Jobs will go – they are already cutting back.
“We have a £57m deficit – they are trying to claw that deficit back.”
Statements in full:
Click here to read the full statements from members of the Better Services, Better
Value panel
Councillor Ruth Dombey, deputy leader of Sutton Council, said:
“The move to severely downgrade St Helier Hospital is shameful.
“NHS South West London have only considered closing units and reducing services when they should be cutting back on waste instead.
“Vital decisions have been made behind closed doors and the whole process is being led by managers who don’t have a stake in the area.
“Local people will be outraged to hear NHS South West London wants to close a maternity facility when Sutton has one of the highest birth rates in London, and close an A&E facility that is fit to burst and getting busier.
“To date the consultation process has been seriously flawed and it has failed to take into account the knock on effects that hundreds of job losses could have on Sutton and the surrounding area.
“This is public sector decision making at its worst; senseless, short-sighted and failing to listen to local people.”
Responding to the panel’s recommendation, trust chief executive, Matthew Hopkins, said:
“Whilst we accept there is a case for changing the way NHS services are provided in south west London, we are disappointed that the ‘scoring’ panel has made this recommendation.
“The key criteria we expected the panel to use in making its recommendation were clinical outcomes, safety and patient experience. We know we do well in these areas, especially when compared to our local hospitals, so it is regrettable the panel have come to this conclusion.
“However, it’s important to note that the panel’s recommendation is not binding and it is just one stage of a lengthy and complicated process. Crucially, it needs to pass through many other hoops, including a full public legal consultation. This will need to last at least 12 weeks and is expected to start in early autumn.
“We will of course continue to work with NHS South West London, our local NHS partners, GPs, MPs, councillors and local people to ensure our patients continue to receive the very best possible care, both now and in the future.”
On how other hospitals could manage an increase in A&E patients and new mums, Matthew added:
“St Helier’s A&E and maternity departments are busier than ever. Both departments saw, treated and cared for more people last year than ever before, with 81,739 patients treated in A&E and 3,317 babies born in our maternity unit. The numbers of patients and parents who use St Helier is increasing, not decreasing.
“The Better Services Better Value review’s plan to close an A&E is based on a major reduction in the numbers of people needing to use A&E departments across south west London.
“As such, we have consistently raised concerns about whether there are clear and robust plans in place across the NHS in south west London to enable that to happen and, in turn, reduce the number of patients who need our care.
“The increasing numbers of patients we treat in A&E, and babies that we care for in our maternity unit, combined with the high quality care we deliver, mean local people, patients and our own staff, need to be reassured that significant investments are being made elsewhere to provide the services they need, at the standards they deserve.”
On the suggestion the St Helier could become a dedicated planned care centre, Matthew added:
“Under the proposals, the hospital which loses its A&E and maternity will be designated as the dedicated planned care centre for elective surgery in south west London.
“Whilst, we recognise the benefits this offers for the NHS locally, we await with interest the financial analysis from NHS South West London that shows the planned care centre would be clinically and financially viable in the long term.”
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Comments(23)
Giles C
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4:58pm Wed 9 May 12
What is your and my MP the care minister number 2 at the Dept of Health done about it?
We all remember the pictures of Brake Brennan and Burstow outside the hospital preelection with the S.O.S signage.
On the back of this it is farewell to the Lib Dems locally...Good riddance to the say one thing do another party.
mangad
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5:17pm Wed 9 May 12
Almost everyone agrees that absolutely nothing like this should ever happen at their local hospital. At all. Absolutely not.
Michael Pantlin
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6:51pm Wed 9 May 12
jscy1987 wrote:The kind St. Helier staff have to deal with some pretty diabolical patients too. Let's home when your time comes you survive the journey through the traffic gridlock in the back of an ambulance if you can get one to Tooting to join the crush, the wait and the queue there.
To be honest, I am very Happy&agree that St Helier should loose its A&E Department ... I was at St Helier quite recently&I must say the service from some of the Doctors&Nurses towards Me is appauling.. Now I know why I refuse to have my care/Treatment at St Helier. St Georges all the way!!!
Michael Pantlin
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6:59pm Wed 9 May 12
Michael Pantlin
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7:02pm Wed 9 May 12
Krissi
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7:24pm Wed 9 May 12
exa_cordon
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8:27pm Wed 9 May 12
spike40
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9:19pm Wed 9 May 12
This will add 30 minutes to most average journeys and that is if the roads are clear - 30 mins could be the difference between life and death.
The NHS is losing sight of what it is there to do and that is look after patients.
I hate to think how much the trusts spend on panels and commitees and middle management - that is where the savings could be made not by closing hospitals.
biggers
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9:37pm Wed 9 May 12
bystander tolworth
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10:07pm Wed 9 May 12
lilacgeorge
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10:30pm Wed 9 May 12
Stridesy
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10:45pm Wed 9 May 12
emmas85
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12:06am Thu 10 May 12
MissyMo
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2:05am Thu 10 May 12
This just does not make sense'.
MissyMo
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2:06am Thu 10 May 12
This just does not make sense'.
gbzgc
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3:44am Thu 10 May 12
Did they not take all of the credit for the rebuilding of St Helier approval just a couple of years ago!!!!!! Hypocrites once again
Giles C
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6:41am Thu 10 May 12
gbzgc wrote:you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
I hope people realise that despite the protestations from Brake and in particular Care Minister Burstow, they are actually in the Government and will be the ones responsible for this decision. No doubt if it does close they will blame the Tories and distance themselves but if it stays open they will take all of the credit.
Did they not take all of the credit for the rebuilding of St Helier approval just a couple of years ago!!!!!! Hypocrites once again
Their comeuppance is just around the corner...
dbs111
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9:29am Thu 10 May 12
Edwy82
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1:22pm Thu 10 May 12
torosaurus1
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7:44pm Thu 10 May 12
We are all facing cuts, I for one look like i will lose £6000 a year under the new government plans and with thanks to Thersa May.
What I find alarming is that when the NHS and other emergency services are already at breaking point they decide to take yet more away, so much for reforms for the better and redevelopment!!
I thought the new government made a committment for better healthcare?
What concerns me also, is that the nearest hospitals would be Kingston and Tooting, they take an exceedingly long time to get to.
I work in Wandsworth as part of the emergency services, when we need to take people into A&E we very rarely get a space in St Georges hospital and often have to go across borough into Chelsea, as you can imagine this takes a fair amount of time. So how on earth they can expect to take A&E patients from the Sutton borough areas anywhere else is a joke, it's not even possible to do in less than 30 mins on borough.
I am astounded that this has even been considered.
I agree the service at St Helier isn't the best in the world, but then that's where training and more funding would significantly help.
What I find just as troubling is the maternity closures? How on earth can you close such a necessary department.
Epsom maternity is a total nightmare and is like something from the early 50's, the staff are out of touch and can't cope with more than 5 deliveries at once.
My mum has recently had a baby at Epsom after having myself and sister at St Helier, she didn't think much of St. Helier then but now considers them to be fantastic compared to Epsom. Her treatment there was horrendous, i could write all day about their errors.
The idea of even considerering taking a woman in labour from Sutton areas to Kingston or Tooting hospitals is yet again ludicrus, let alone attending appointments there, they're so far away it will cost so much time and money for patients.
If you do not drive, travelling to these places for maternity or to visit someone in A&E is impossible, the transport network to these places are fiddly, time consuming and expensive. Getting through Worcester Park to Kingston or through Morden or Mitcham to St Georges will take near an hour with heavy (and frequent) traffic congestion.
I think Mr Burstow needs to fight a bit more for his local people rather than prancing around Cheam Village like he is some sort of saviour to Sutton residents, yet another tory that can't stick to his guns.
I am not another fuddy duddy or busy body moaning yet again about cuts, this is the first time I have ever commented on something like this and I am only 21. I feel like we all need to fight for what is right and for our services whatever our age or background.
These 'reforms' or travesties should not be accepted let alone even thought of.
kazza76
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9:47pm Thu 10 May 12
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xeepo
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9:05pm Sun 13 May 12
jscy1987 says...
4:57pm Wed 9 May 12