Young widow who lost parents and husband now faces losing Carshalton home

7:00am Friday 11th May 2012 in News Exclusive By James Pepper

Darren and Angela Green on their wedding day Darren and Angela Green on their wedding day

A grieving young widow who lost her parents and husband in less than two years is now facing eviction from her family home.

Angela Green's new husband, Darren, was killed in a car crash in Mitcham in February and a month later she lost her father, Jim Tingley, through heart disease.

Her mother, Pamela, died two years ago after losing her battle with cancer.

Now, Sutton Housing Partnership (SHP) is using a legal loophole to force her out the home in Wrythe Lane, Carshalton, where she has lived in all her life.

A tearful Mrs Green, 29, who works in Fudge Cakes bakery in Carshalton, said: "I'm not sure there is anything to get up for any more to be honest. I would rather be asleep than awake.

"Darren's death really hit dad. They got on brilliantly, they would both gang up on me and take the mick. My dad had been fighting so hard against his illness, but when Darren died, it just killed him, he just gave up."

"Any memories I have of any of any of these people who are dear to my heart are in this home. I can look into the front room and see Mum and Dad dancing at her 50th birthday. This home is all I have left of them. I can't believe they are taking that away from me."

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The newlyweds had had their hearts set on starting their own family in the home Mrs Green had grown up in, and the place where all new babies in the families are christened.

The Sutton Council-owned three-bedroom property on Wrythe Lane, Carshalton, was in the name of Mrs Green's parents, but when her mother died in 2010, the property was passed on to her father.

When her father became ill, Mrs Green tried to get the property transferred into her name was told she couldn't take the tenancy on as the house can only be passed on once.

On February 28, Darren Green, Angela's "wonderful and devoted" husband of only eight months, was killed in a collision on London Road, Mitcham.

Mr Green, 35, was killed when the silver Peugeot he was driving was involved in a crash with a refrigerated lorry in Mitcham.

Around 1,500 people showed up to send the "big friendly giant" off at North East Surrey Crematorium on March 14.

Mrs Green said: "It was the worst day of my life, I didn’t want to believe it. I still don’t really know what happened. All I know is that I have lost a amazing and devoted husband.

"Darren was, and is still, a truly exceptional person who I was proud to say was my husband."

Mrs Green, who lived in the home with new husband Darren while caring for her sick dad, was sent an eviction notice from SHP on Monday (30th April) following the death of her father in March.

SHP have offered her a one bedroom flat in the borough.

An on-line petition to keep Angela Green in her family home has been signed by nearly 4,000 people.

A spokesman for Sutton Housing partnership said: "We understand that these are very difficult circumstances for Mrs Green and we would like to offer our sincere condolences to her and her family.

"We do sympathise with her current situation but we have a duty to ensure that three bedroom council homes go to those families on the waiting list that are most in need.

"Under current legislation the Right to Succeed this tenancy had already been granted and therefore we are not able to grant Mrs Green further succession rights.

"In certain circumstances Sutton Council do however grant remaining relatives offers of alternative accommodation.

"SHP is currently working with the council and we have recommended that Mrs Green is given priority for a one bedroom home."

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Justsum1 says...
8:08am Fri 11 May 12

These are exceptional circumstances, this poor, young girl with her whole life ahead of her has had the most precious people taken from her do cruelly, and now the home where she has grown up in, cared for both her parents in with her husbands support, the home which was also her marital home where her life plans had been made in. That home which is ALL her memories, they want to take that away from her too!!! Has she not been through enough already? Does she really deserve this? Is her health and sanity really worth taking her HOME for?? These are the real questions shp should be asking themselves. She's asked for nothing in her life, this is all she wants. Leave her to grief with all her memories surrounding her, in the only happy place she now knows, in her home !!! I for 1 am right behind Mrs Green, right to the very end of her fight !!! xxx

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Glen da menace says...
10:03am Fri 11 May 12

I was friends with Darren Green for many years and was obviously very upset that he had passed. I attended his send off and it was by far the biggest I have ever been to or I imagine am ever likely to go to! He was loved by many and none more than his family and Angela.
Those who are friends with Angela, even if just on Facebook or because they knew Darren, see on a daily basis the heart break she has had to endure! It truly is so so sad that Angela has had to suffer so much in so short a time and at such a young age!

This is why I find it so hard to believe that Sutton council now feel it necessary to add to the trauma and evict Angela from HER HOME!!!
I understand the point that the tenancy had been passed on once already and that there are families who need a 3 bedroom place. I am 1 of those families (in a different part of the country) so know the frustration of having to wait.

My question is, can the council not exercise discretion at all in certain circumstances?

Personally I think that if Sutton council made the families in that borough waiting for a 3 bedroom place aware of all that Angela has been through, then these families would be more than happy to wait a while longer! No decent human being would want to be the 1 to take HER HOME away from her!!!

Much love to the Green family.

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suttonmum says...
10:10am Fri 11 May 12

It really is hearbreaking what this poor lady has gone through over the last 2 years, but the fact is she really doesn't need a 3 bedroom house. There are so many families in homes too small for them, and I don't mean those on benefits who continue having children. I mean hard working families who work hard and still cannot afford a suitably sized home for their families. If the council are prepared to offer this lady a 1 bedroom property, it should be accepted as many young women in her position would not be offered any kind of social housing as she is in employment. sad but unfortunately true. So many properties are under occupied, as a care worker I see lovely homes going to waste because people won't leave these properties to allow other families the chance of making happy memories with their children. I really feel for this lady, but is it really fair a single person should occupy a 3 bedroom council owned property when a married couple with 2 or 3 children have to share a 1 or 2 bedroom property?

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AlphaBetty says...
11:01am Fri 11 May 12

suttonmum wrote:
It really is hearbreaking what this poor lady has gone through over the last 2 years, but the fact is she really doesn't need a 3 bedroom house. There are so many families in homes too small for them, and I don't mean those on benefits who continue having children. I mean hard working families who work hard and still cannot afford a suitably sized home for their families. If the council are prepared to offer this lady a 1 bedroom property, it should be accepted as many young women in her position would not be offered any kind of social housing as she is in employment. sad but unfortunately true. So many properties are under occupied, as a care worker I see lovely homes going to waste because people won't leave these properties to allow other families the chance of making happy memories with their children. I really feel for this lady, but is it really fair a single person should occupy a 3 bedroom council owned property when a married couple with 2 or 3 children have to share a 1 or 2 bedroom property?
Totally agree with Suttonmum. I understand that she's been through a lot, but this is a family-sized home. Previously living there for many years doesn't give you an automatic right to stay there forever.

I'm a sentimental person, so I also need familiar surroundings when I'm grieving - but as we're renting privately that's not an option. Having the same home for nearly 30 years is rare.

If we go through redundancy again and can't afford our rent any more we will have to find somewhere cheaper - with no help from the council (we don't 'qualify').

In the last year I've lost 3 family members (including our baby), but as a private tenant I have nothing more than photos and a few trinkets to remember them by.

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Crease2000 says...
11:35am Fri 11 May 12

I think it's more the fact that her husband died only 3 months ago. The woman needs a chance to grieve properly without the tremendous stress of having to move home right now.

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theavengers says...
11:39am Fri 11 May 12

It's sad but it isn't HER HOME. Her parents didn't own this home. I have to rent privately and can't afford it really but my family has no choice but to leave our home with all our memories as soon as the landlord chooses. I'm sad that I have to take my family away from the only home they have known do to my landlord selling but worse I'll have to find a smaller more expensive flat soon with no help from the council. My parents are dead. I'm married and work full time with a child and have no heating. I live off £150 per month for all of us to eat on. The council isn't offering me a place to go. She may be hurting but others are hurting too and have no help. She's being offered a home, don't knock it. That's a lot better than most of us.

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mandyc803 says...
11:41am Fri 11 May 12

I also know Angela and Darren i also will support Angela 110% in this she does not deserve any of this, now i know of many a council house where a 1 person is living in a 3/4 bed house but just because they are the named tenant they get to stay how is this fair should the rules not still apply that there are people need housing, so why not let her stay its not like she just moved in she has lived there all her life and wanted to continue living there a married couple with her husband, yes there are people waiting, but i agree with glen no decent human being would want to take her home away from her,i just hope shp are very proud of themselves doing this to a young lady who hasn't had time to accept or grieve for these family members let alone have the energy to deal with this,all I can say is well done you, hope U sleep well at night. Darren was a extremely lovely man who we all loved dearly now i know he will be very proud of his wife and family and would want everyone supporting her so that's exactly what i intend to do. xx

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Justsum1 says...
12:03pm Fri 11 May 12

Every1 who has been involved with any of the family do understand that there are people waiting for Bigger homes, but this ain't down to size, it's about memories and a home which is the only thing keeping this woman going, shes not asking for benefits or a new kitchen /bathroom: central heating or
Anything that the rest of the estate are receiving at present, she just wants her home, to be able to grieve surrounded by what she knows and loves. I am on the understanding that she nursed her sick mum, with no outside help and them She also did the same For her dad, whilst still holding down a job!! And for those who say its not her home then I totally disagree, it may not be her HOUSE but it is her HOME. Xx

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itsonlyme2 says...
12:37pm Fri 11 May 12

im behind angela 1000% and all those that disagree should maybe try being in her situation for at least 24 hrs. You try having to look after ur loved ones when they are ill or dying knowing there is nothing u can do to take the pain away from them. Then to marry ur soul mate and have that cruely taken away after only 8 months of marriage. SHP say they need 3 bedroom properties well if thats the case how come they are willing to sell them off? This house was supposed to be the home she was to bring up a family in a house she was going to BUY so yes it would of been hers! she hasnt asked for any help from any one. This is the only thing she has left to feel close to her loved ones and the council are asking her to pretty much throw her memories away because there is no way 4 peoples belongings will fit in a 1 bedroom property. could u choose which memories to keep and which to throw away because i for 1 wouldnt be able to. GREEN ARMY all the way xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Justsum1 says...
1:19pm Fri 11 May 12

GREEN ARMY xxx

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stephie86 says...
1:36pm Fri 11 May 12

The thing that upsets me the most is that if the tenancy was in both of Angela's parents names then it should not have been 'passed down' to Jim as he was ALREADY a paying tennant. The 'passing down' should have been done once Jim had passed away...to Angela!
I understand that there are many people waiting to be housed....ive been on that list for years...but i would happily give up my space if it meant that Angela could have some peace (even if only a little) that she is surrounded by memories of the people she loved.
Angela is not asking for handouts, she is just asking for a little peace to help her grieve.......not a lot to ask really?!

Keep strong Ange, GREEN ARMY!! xxxxxx

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emelem says...
1:58pm Fri 11 May 12

i cannot begin to imagine what it is like to be in angela's shoes *but* all i can hope for is that, if she doesn't get to stay, in the time suitable for her grieving, that perhaps the move will be therapeutic? new space, new life...

i don't think i would want to be in the same space where i lost so many people in such a short space of time, but i speculate~

maybe she could start writing a journal (also therapeutic) of the memories the home holds for her (the dancing, the taking the mick, etc), that can't be captured in material possessions, as well as taking material possessions with her?

i don't know...

but good luck and be strong, angela

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mumto3 says...
2:57pm Fri 11 May 12

I am a parent in need of a 3 bed property, but there is no way i would want to be housed in Angela's home. Why cant the council meet her half way and let her have just 1 years tenancy then move to another property. Angela would have had time to grieve and be in a better position emotionally.
GREEN ARMY ALL THE WAY XX

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Crease2000 says...
3:18pm Fri 11 May 12

Is the topic about Angela or showing support for some sports team?

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star_123 says...
3:20pm Fri 11 May 12

Poor Angela, this story is so so sad. The council seem to be being very unfair to her. To lose everyone and everything close to her in the space of 2 yrs. I wouldn't wish that on anyone!
It seems so unfair that it couldn't be handed down once again, why is this rule in place that it can only be succeeded once? this needs to change for people in this situation in the future.
It is especially awful as they were planning on buying the property.
I have 3 children and we are all in a 2 bedroom property but reading this story I would 100% rather Angela stay in there then have her kicked out just so we have a bit more space. Having children was my choice and I knew it would be a squash but thats the decision we made. Losing her family AND home is not Angela's choice. Have a heart people can't you see what is right??

I AM 100% GOING TO SIGN THIS PETITION

Good luck Angela and well done to the 4000+ ppl who have already signed

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Sutton53 says...
3:59pm Fri 11 May 12

Sutton Housing Association should allow Mrs Green to live in the property for a year to allow her to get her life sorted out and her affairs in order. There are lots of support-groups for widows (and widowers) online. Perhaps they can offer her some advice?

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shell74 says...
3:59pm Fri 11 May 12

Please give this poor girl a break, those who have posted negative comments put yourself in her shoes, how would you feel to lose most of your family & to have lost your husband in such tragic circumstances, it beggars belief that you have this "it's not fair" attitude, well no it's not in the least bit fair TO ANGELA someone who was born in this country & is entitled to what's rightfully hers, regardless of whether her parents owned the house or not they've all paid their way towards living in this country, there's a lot who just breeze in & get housed, benefits etc etc when they have no right! Also think of the scenario the other way round, a family home, children all grown up & left home so just the parents/parent
living there, I know of cases like this & they get to stay so it should be no different the other way round, half the time the council make the rules up as they go along. Good luck Angela!

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smallsteps says...
4:58pm Fri 11 May 12

as someone in need of a three bed, i would be discusted if i knew that it was this house that i may receive. i would personally stay in the crowded home im already in than take angelas home. someone hit the nail on the head when they pointed out the property was joint with angelas parents so she should be able to succeed. i do agree with some points that have been made about needing bigger accomodation but i would rather have any of the 13 three bedroom houses that surrounds my mothers property with only 1 tenant in them..... sort it out SHP and use your discretation. 100% behind the petition. GREEN ARMY

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1978_ leigh says...
6:23pm Fri 11 May 12

SHP Should be Ashamed of how there treating Angela Its Disgusting how anyone could think this is exceptable i for one do not know what its like to lose 3 loved ones in that space of time its bad enough loosing one let alone 3.!! Why dont ppl just leave her to Grieve in her own time there is no time limit on grieving so its not even about her having a year its about them taking away her house that she was bought up in n she nursed her sick parents n her Marital home there are ALOT Of Memories in that house that mean alot to her so how about ppl be happy with what they have got in life cause sadly u nvr know when that can be snatched away from you, I Dont rlly know Angela but i knew Darren n im so saddened by this she needs a break and ppl need to realise she is at breaking point and seriously dosnt need to hear or read negative comment, plz put yourself in her shoes for 10mins n imagine u lost everything then ask yourself do u think its alot to ask to stay there cause i for one dont think it is.!! SHP Can change rules but as someone said above i think they pick n choose as they go along but if they had a heart there leave there girl b to get on with her life the best she can grieving for her loved ones in HER HOME..!!!
GREEN ARMY ALL THE WAY ..... And if nyone had a heart they would also go on line n sign this petition.....

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21kmuffett says...
10:01pm Fri 11 May 12

people seem to just care about getting a bigger house.. No one could possibly understand what ang is going through..!! We can try to understand but it'll never come close to how she is feeling.. It could be a 3bedroom, 1bedroom or even a garden shed but as long it was the plase they was all together Angela would want to stay in that place..! Have a heart people and if you have nothing nice to say then don't bother commenting. Angela doesn't need people being negative..! Lotsa love Angela Hun.. Behind you 100000% xx

!!!.. GREEN ARMY ..!!!

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Csmewing says...
10:40pm Fri 11 May 12

AlphaBetty wrote:
suttonmum wrote:
It really is hearbreaking what this poor lady has gone through over the last 2 years, but the fact is she really doesn't need a 3 bedroom house. There are so many families in homes too small for them, and I don't mean those on benefits who continue having children. I mean hard working families who work hard and still cannot afford a suitably sized home for their families. If the council are prepared to offer this lady a 1 bedroom property, it should be accepted as many young women in her position would not be offered any kind of social housing as she is in employment. sad but unfortunately true. So many properties are under occupied, as a care worker I see lovely homes going to waste because people won't leave these properties to allow other families the chance of making happy memories with their children. I really feel for this lady, but is it really fair a single person should occupy a 3 bedroom council owned property when a married couple with 2 or 3 children have to share a 1 or 2 bedroom property?
Totally agree with Suttonmum. I understand that she's been through a lot, but this is a family-sized home. Previously living there for many years doesn't give you an automatic right to stay there forever.

I'm a sentimental person, so I also need familiar surroundings when I'm grieving - but as we're renting privately that's not an option. Having the same home for nearly 30 years is rare.

If we go through redundancy again and can't afford our rent any more we will have to find somewhere cheaper - with no help from the council (we don't 'qualify').

In the last year I've lost 3 family members (including our baby), but as a private tenant I have nothing more than photos and a few trinkets to remember them by.
You say you think its heartbreaking what this lady has been through and yet you make this comment, its not the fact whether she needs a 3 bedroom home or not its the fact that this is her home and has been for nearly 30 years this home of hers has very precious memories why should she have to leave it?? is it not enough that she has lost everything else?? how much more do you want her to suffer?? You call yourself a care worker not much caring in your comment is there?? And as for the person who has also left a comment about them renting privately you have the same rights as everyone to bid on the choice based lettings scheme so obviously your doing something wrong to be in the situation that your in!!!! and if you were made redundant again as you say you would be entitled to benefits until you found employment again...I think you all sound selfish and heartless and if you all had a home that you loved you wouldn't even be making these comments because you would be happy with your lot, but instead you sound bitter because you want what she has....none of you obviously have a clue what its like to live her life with the pain and grief every single day and not being able to see the light at the end of the tunnel, grow a heart and stop thinking what is lawfully right and think what is morally right for a change...rant over...

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Csmewing says...
10:43pm Fri 11 May 12

You say you think its heartbreaking what this lady has been through and yet you make this comment, its not the fact whether she needs a 3 bedroom home or not its the fact that this is her home and has been for nearly 30 years this home of hers has very precious memories why should she have to leave it?? is it not enough that she has lost everything else?? how much more do you want her to suffer?? You call yourself a care worker not much caring in your comment is there?? And as for the person who has also left a comment about them renting privately you have the same rights as everyone to bid on the choice based lettings scheme so obviously your doing something wrong to be in the situation that your in!!!! and if you were made redundant again as you say you would be entitled to benefits until you found employment again...I think you all sound selfish and heartless and if you all had a home that you loved you wouldn't even be making these comments because you would be happy with your lot, but instead you sound bitter because you want what she has....none of you obviously have a clue what its like to live her life with the pain and grief every single day and not being able to see the light at the end of the tunnel, grow a heart and stop thinking what is lawfully right and think what is morally right for a change...rant over...

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Csmewing says...
10:57pm Fri 11 May 12

You say you think its heartbreaking what this lady has been through and yet you make this comment, its not the fact whether she needs a 3 bedroom home or not its the fact that this is her home and has been for nearly 30 years this home of hers has very precious memories why should she have to leave it?? is it not enough that she has lost everything else?? how much more do you want her to suffer?? You call yourself a care worker not much caring in your comment is there?? And as for the person who has also left a comment about them renting privately you have the same rights as everyone to bid on the choice based lettings scheme so obviously your doing something wrong to be in the situation that your in!!!! and if you were made redundant again as you say you would be entitled to benefits until you found employment again...I think you all sound selfish and heartless and if you all had a home that you loved you wouldn't even be making these comments because you would be happy with your lot, but instead you sound bitter because you want what she has....none of you obviously have a clue what its like to live her life with the pain and grief every single day and not being able to see the light at the end of the tunnel, grow a heart and stop thinking what is lawfully right and think what is morally right for a change...rant over...

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the_way_we_are says...
12:51am Sat 12 May 12

mandyc803 wrote:
I also know Angela and Darren i also will support Angela 110% in this she does not deserve any of this, now i know of many a council house where a 1 person is living in a 3/4 bed house but just because they are the named tenant they get to stay how is this fair should the rules not still apply that there are people need housing, so why not let her stay its not like she just moved in she has lived there all her life and wanted to continue living there a married couple with her husband, yes there are people waiting, but i agree with glen no decent human being would want to take her home away from her,i just hope shp are very proud of themselves doing this to a young lady who hasn't had time to accept or grieve for these family members let alone have the energy to deal with this,all I can say is well done you, hope U sleep well at night. Darren was a extremely lovely man who we all loved dearly now i know he will be very proud of his wife and family and would want everyone supporting her so that's exactly what i intend to do. xx
i do see what you are saying, but those people who live in large houses alone, have a legally binding tenancy, Mrs Green doesnt, and i do not think in these current housing situation, the heart should rule the head, you cant change rules just because you feel sorry for a person, as every person in the world would have something that has happened to them that they feel special circumstances should be granted, if Mr Green was still alive, would everyone be doing this because Mrs Greens father had passed and shp were asking for their home back??? i do honestly hope that Mrs Greens suffering and pain eases in time

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BrokenInBritain says...
8:26am Sat 12 May 12

I Think the details of the story are being lost here along the way. Obviously there is a need for housing in Sutton and the surrounding areas, but if it was that great then why when Angela approached the SHP were they more than happy to allow this. The council had no legal obligation to sell the property but were more than happy to accept her and her husbands hard earned money to take it off their hands. SHP is an utter disgrace not only for the way that they have treated Angela but for the way they go about their business as a whole. They claim to be at the heart of the community, if they were they they would understand the situation that this poor young woman is in at the moment and act accordingly as any good human being would do. instead they are only out to make a fast buck. Everyone who reads this put yourself in her shoes. if you had lived there for the amount of time she has, knowing only that house, holding so many of her cherished memories would you want to be evicted? (yes thats correct SHP are only willing to offfer her one property, unlike people on the waiting list who have the chance to turn down a house or flat if it not to their liking )

myself, my wife and our son lived in a three bedroom flat with my wife's parents, brother, sister and her partner and his daughter for four years whilst waiting for a 2 bedroom council property. if this young girl had to be evicted so i could be housed quicker then i would have turned it down. the girl has suffered enough already.

And if Mr Green was still alive then im sure Angela would still fight tooth and nail for a house which SHP were more than happy to sell her just a few short months ago.

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star_123 says...
8:39am Sat 12 May 12

I couldn't agree more with every single word you have just said brokeninbritain

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suttonmum says...
11:11am Sat 12 May 12

Csmewing says...
10:57pm Fri 11 May 12

You say you think its heartbreaking what this lady has been through and yet you make this comment, its not the fact whether she needs a 3 bedroom home or not its the fact that this is her home and has been for nearly 30 years this home of hers has very precious memories why should she have to leave it?? is it not enough that she has lost everything else?? how much more do you want her to suffer?? You call yourself a care worker not much caring in your comment is there?? And as for the person who has also left a comment about them renting privately you have the same rights as everyone to bid on the choice based lettings scheme so obviously your doing something wrong to be in the situation that your in!!!! and if you were made redundant again as you say you would be entitled to benefits until you found employment again...I think you all sound selfish and heartless and if you all had a home that you loved you wouldn't even be making these comments because you would be happy with your lot, but instead you sound bitter because you want what she has....none of you obviously have a clue what its like to live her life with the pain and grief every single day and not being able to see the light at the end of the tunnel, grow a heart and stop thinking what is lawfully right and think what is morally right for a change...rant over...

Trust me I am not bitter or unhappy with my lot, I am merely voicing an opinion, as is every one else on here. A lot of people who have posted comments appear to know this lady personally and so see it differently to how others might. At the end of the day I am not taking away what Angela has been through but she would not be the first person to have to leave a council property because the legal tennants have passed. It happens all the time regardless of the amount of time they have lived there or what memerories they may have. Yes SHP could have handled this situation better, but they are not making this lady homesless. Most other people in the same situation,who are in employment wouldn't even be offered a council property as they would not meet the criteria and would have to find themselves alternative privately rented accomadation. People suffer loss every day and unfortuanately for social housing to become available for new families people often have to pass away or move to smaller properties when they are no longer in need of the size property they have. I am not being heartless or uncaring and do think Mrs Green should have been left to grieve instead of being asked to leave the property so soon after her loss.

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working mum121 says...
11:58am Sat 12 May 12

I have mixed views on this story but i think it's unfair for people to just say "put yourself in Angela's shoe's" the loss this lady has enjured is emmence beyond words and It's heartbreaking to hear what she has been through and still has to go through, I believe Shp should have shown more consideration in there approach to re home her. However consideration is not SHP! But to have 2 empty rooms in her home on the basis of memorys, Is that really fair on the familys struggling everyday for space? As a working mum on the waiting list along with 1000's of family's. I am many who dont have a living room- a place where the majority of family memorys are made because i have to use that as my bedroom because my mixed gender children are too old to be sharing and there is still a very long wait. While I wouldn't want to be housed in this ladys home based on what she had to endure for me to get it, it is sad to say that through the loss of loved ones this is how many homes become vacant for new familys as people dont willingly give their homes full of memorys given to them to based on there family size and income when they are no longer in need of them empty rooms. I am one of many that are desperate to relieve the huge pressure of juggling work and raising children, many of us are paying full rent to sleep in our living rooms, kitchens or crammed in at night with the children because that's what SHP advise. Us with homes to small for our family's will never get these years back with our children, very few happy memorys are made and the parents and children live struggle, strain and embarresment everyday because of their poor living conditions. I cant help wonder that if SHP make an exception for one than it will open up the gates for many more. Angela is another victim of the social housing crisis within sutton and the sadest thing is that she as a young woman was on the right path to a stable happy life, until her dreams were ripped away from her.

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halhal says...
1:07pm Sat 12 May 12

I can see how its upsetting, however it is a family sized home and other unfortunate people need it. I understand how hard it must be, and why she is upset. They should give her some time though as her husband has not been gone long.

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catuk123 says...
1:23pm Sat 12 May 12

This is why this world is falling apart,too many people think too much about money and possessions and not the love for eachother.
The negative people who commented need to think with their heart on a situation like this,1 house out of all that sutton housing own is not going to make a huge impact on the housing list,but it will make a huge impact on a fragile Lady who is broken in 2!!.
x Green Army x

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Justsum1 says...
2:26pm Sat 12 May 12

a website has been set up for Mrs Green, so if you do want to read more about her and her past or even just want to be kept updated, please go to

www.greenarmy.me.uk

thankyou xx

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Eeyore79 says...
5:51pm Sat 12 May 12

Ok first of all i would like to say that I do not know Mrs Green or her family. I am truly sorry for her loss in such a tragic heartbreaking story. I can not even begin to imagine what she is going through and i wouldn't try. 2nd of all we all know how messed up the housing situation is in this borough and in the whole country and unfortunately it will not get any better so everyone will have an opinion and not everyone will agree. People are allowed to have opinions and some opinions should be put across more tastefully in my eyes! The big issue i see with SHP is the fact "a few months ago" they were willing to sell the house to Mrs Green and her husband. I am assuming due to Mrs Green now being on one income that it may not be possible for her to continue with buying the property alone however SHP going from allowing the sale to eviction doesn't seem right at all. surely they should be asking Mrs green if she wants to continue or at least saying we need your descion in x amount of time 3 months 6 months etc To give Mrs Green the chance to grieve and decide if there is any way she can afford to do it. Maybe Mrs Green already can like i say i don't Know her at all so couldn't comment on her financial situation. I just dont understand how they can make such a huge jump from selling to eviction. also everyone that is commenting on the fact Mrs Green is residing in a 3 bedroom property alone and a more worthy family could do with the property more than her need to look at the facts a bit more. I understand what its like to be cramped up in a 2 bed property with 3 or more kids i have been there done that got the T shirt to prove it. but 2 years ago when Mrs Green had her Mum dad and husband living with her makes 2 of 3 bedrooms being used so why did SHP not evict the family then? if its all about occupancy and size surely they would have been more suited to that 2 bed you are in, but no SHP left them alone and quite rightly so! so please tell me why on earth you feel that the eviction should go ahead now? I am sure if everyone went on a door to door campaign you will find most 3 bedroom properties in the borough are under occupied so SHP should be evicting all of them not just Mrs Green if that's how they want to play it. You can go on the website homeswapper and so many of them on there (not all SHP tennants) are wanting to downsize as kids have grown up and moved out but they are left alone so why cant Mrs Green? i hope Mrs Green is able to stay in her home for the time being at least and i hope that she suffers no more and can start her grieving process peacefully without any more stress or heartache! Good Luck Lady and keep strong x

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Justsum1 says...
6:00pm Sat 12 May 12

My man is in 3 bedroom parlour type house which Merton council will class as a 4 bedroom when suited, my nan is really struggling with her stairs now and asked if she can b down sized to a 2 bedroom (she needs a spare room for family members stay over to help her) but their response was a no as she would only be entitled to a 1 bedroo
. So instead of freein up her huge house with massive front and back gardens for a 2 bed, they have refused outright, very strange policies x

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Justsum1 says...
6:01pm Sat 12 May 12

Soz, my nan x

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JPR says...
11:20am Sun 13 May 12

These housing civil servant are robots hiding behind the red tapes. they are not responsible. they only apply the rules.
Poor creatures they will be very soon replaced with a machine with more heart they never imagine they would have.
And a machine can not lie.

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Crease2000 says...
12:37pm Sun 13 May 12

If nothing else, those awful SHP can serve a section 21 and that would give Angela 2 months to move. Even then if she plays it right, she could refuse to move and then the SHP would have to take her to court which would give her more time. A tenancy agreement protects the landlord AND the tenant and I hope that she uses the contract to it's full effect. There's no mention that her rent isn't being paid, so s0d them.

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the_way_we_are says...
12:49pm Sun 13 May 12

Crease2000 wrote:
If nothing else, those awful SHP can serve a section 21 and that would give Angela 2 months to move. Even then if she plays it right, she could refuse to move and then the SHP would have to take her to court which would give her more time. A tenancy agreement protects the landlord AND the tenant and I hope that she uses the contract to it's full effect. There's no mention that her rent isn't being paid, so s0d them.
im guessing that she doesnt have a tenancy though, as this is the problem from what i understand, so i doubt she has any legal right as far as a tenant would have, i hope she has stopped paying them any rent whilst this has been going on!!!

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Crease2000 says...
12:59pm Sun 13 May 12

Hmmm, that's a good point that I overlooked. She's a bit stuffed. In her position I'd still refuse to leave right now.

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Wait right there says...
5:23pm Sun 13 May 12

the_way_we_are wrote:
Crease2000 wrote:
If nothing else, those awful SHP can serve a section 21 and that would give Angela 2 months to move. Even then if she plays it right, she could refuse to move and then the SHP would have to take her to court which would give her more time. A tenancy agreement protects the landlord AND the tenant and I hope that she uses the contract to it's full effect. There's no mention that her rent isn't being paid, so s0d them.
im guessing that she doesnt have a tenancy though, as this is the problem from what i understand, so i doubt she has any legal right as far as a tenant would have, i hope she has stopped paying them any rent whilst this has been going on!!!
even an those without a tenancy cannot be removed without a court order. It is sad that she must leave her family home and I hope she does get priority and a new start.

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