St Helier A&E and maternity closures would increase emergency response times

St Helier A&E and maternity closures would mean increased emergency response times St Helier A&E and maternity closures would mean increased emergency response times

The closure of St Helier Hospital's accident and emergency departments would mean increased emergency response times to other hospitals.

Yesterday an NHS review panel recommended St Helier Hospital loses the two frontline departments.

A panel of 60 representatives made up from SW London hospital trusts, local authority members and community representatives recommended St Helier lose its frontline services over Croydon University and Kingston hospital.

They scored each hospital as part of the Better Service, Better Value healthcare review, which announced two months ago one of the hospitals faced the cuts.

According to statistics that formed part of the review, 218,971 people would be affected by the proposed closure of the two frontline departments.

Patients who would have used St Helier's A&E or maternity services would face up to six minutes further "blue light" emergency travel time in an ambulance to a different hospital.

The predicted average increase in emergency travel time would be 3.3 minutes.

People who would normally drive to St Helier to use the services would face up to 12.4 minutes extra travel time, while people using public transport face a longer journey of up to 27 minutes.

MP for Carshalton and Wallington, Tom Brake, said: "The demand for A&E has been increasing in recent years and there is a spurt in the number of births locally.

"These factors point to the need to maintain our A&E and maternity."

It is expected that St Helier hospital will now host a new planned surgery centre and a "range of other services".

The recommendation will be ratified by various boards before a three month public consultation begins and a final decision is taken by the NHS.

During that time this newspaper will fight to have the recommendation thrown out.

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Comments(21)

David7 says...
10:04am Thu 10 May 12

Really? No s***, Sherlock...

The real question you need to be asking is did Sutton Council take full advantage of its available representation in the review? I think you’ll find the answer is that it did not. Oh dear. Bit late to bleat about it then, eh?

pmiddleton says...
10:42am Thu 10 May 12

Hi David,

I’m employed by the council and have been involved in the St Helier work for some time. I'd like to reassure you that Sutton Council was fully represented at the panel and a number of colleagues have been talking to BSBV on behalf of local people from the start. I hope this helps.

Paul

David7 says...
11:07am Thu 10 May 12

Hmmm. We’ll see.

hardly explains this kind of report.

http://www.mirror.co
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Edwy82 says...
1:30pm Thu 10 May 12

I think the predicted travels time will be much longer than the panel are leading us to believe. In a situation when you need to reach a and e or maternity services, where you are not under blues and twos, every minute counts, and these changes really are putting patients in Sutton at risk.

tegsie says...
4:35pm Thu 10 May 12

Those times cited for travelling to another A&E department are unbelievable. Might be possible at 4.00 a.m.

David7 says...
4:59pm Thu 10 May 12

Here’s some data on the major decision makers:

Dr H Freeman – a Tooting-based GP.

Dr D Finch – prior to working for BSBV was medical Director at NHS Wandsworth, near St George’s.

Mr M Bailey – surgeon based at St George’s Tooting.

Also, Cameron and Clegg made pre-election promises to save Kingston Hospital. Were they lying?

So what chance did St Helier ever have in the ‘independent’ process?

And can we please be told who LB Sutton’s representatives were on the panel, and how they voted?

Michael Pantlin says...
5:28pm Thu 10 May 12

"Patients who would have used St Helier's A&E or maternity services would face up to six minutes further "blue light" emergency travel time in an ambulance to a different hospital." In a helicopter perhaps but you've got to be joking regarding the gridlocked traffic.

exa_cordon says...
8:51pm Thu 10 May 12

GPs can't complain about saving money - they are the ones that want paying for everything. A recent event involved a variety of NHS staff having to give up their free time to attend to discuss future services; only the GPs refused to attend unless they were PAID to !!

Liz2076 says...
12:27am Fri 11 May 12

Are we to believe that this 12.4 minutes extra travel time is based at peak rush hours.
When was this research carried out. The middle of the night?
Tell that to the mother who has given up waiting for an ambalance as there numbers have been cut, and is now stuck in the traffic trying to get to St Georges..

Michael Pantlin says...
8:19am Fri 11 May 12

After the dumping of the NHS PR Mantra Better Care Closer to Home if they were honest and marketing the latest change if would be Grottier Care if you make it in time through the congestion while feeling ill Distant from Home.

David7 says...
9:14am Fri 11 May 12

Funny that Michael – ‘Better Care Closer to Home ’ (BCCTH) was dumped in favour of ‘Better Care Better Value’ (BCBV) – I wonder why? Did they know something we didn’t?

adrianshort says...
9:33am Fri 11 May 12

It's like a sci-fi version of the NHS that only works if you can teleport.

shezzler says...
12:59pm Fri 11 May 12

On one hand this is sad news but on the other hand if it means that Ante Natal admin would lose their jobs, then yes I think to close maternity is a good idea, I was working in Ante Natal and then not needed so if their jobs do go they will know how the other half have to live :)

Michael Pantlin says...
1:38pm Fri 11 May 12

adrianshort wrote:
It's like a sci-fi version of the NHS that only works if you can teleport.
Yes ambulances will need Captn Kirk's Warpdrive as a minimum to get to St. George's in 12 minutes. Think of all the extra wailing sirens and blue lights travelling through Mitcham and South Wimbledon to add to the crush and queue for trolleys at the surrounding hospitals. How will fewer A&Es work when one is closed for maintenance, fire, flood, terrorist alert, infectious disease? And how will major incidents eg terrorist attacks, plane and railway accidents be processed with fewer A&E's and those there are being permanently stretched.

Michael Pantlin says...
1:43pm Fri 11 May 12

Liz2076 wrote:
Are we to believe that this 12.4 minutes extra travel time is based at peak rush hours.
When was this research carried out. The middle of the night?
Tell that to the mother who has given up waiting for an ambalance as there numbers have been cut, and is now stuck in the traffic trying to get to St Georges..
In the big freeze up about 18 months ago it was taking a 999 ambulance several hours just to get from Carshalton Beeches to St. Helier A&E. Blue lights and sirens don't have any effect on immobile traffic, snow and ice.

Michael Pantlin says...
1:48pm Fri 11 May 12

David7 wrote:
Funny that Michael – ‘Better Care Closer to Home ’ (BCCTH) was dumped in favour of ‘Better Care Better Value’ (BCBV) – I wonder why? Did they know something we didn’t?
The multi-pronged attack on St. Helier District General Hospital smacks of conspiracy rather than kockup. I reckon there is a Sir Humprey deep in the bowels of Whitehall steering it all for the Coalition. A few years back all the NHS PR spin was about Patients First. Now it's "Clinically Led" as though Doctors First but really I suspect Money and Private Health Care Companies and Private Practice First.

Michael Pantlin says...
1:53pm Fri 11 May 12

David7 wrote:
Here’s some data on the major decision makers:

Dr H Freeman – a Tooting-based GP.

Dr D Finch – prior to working for BSBV was medical Director at NHS Wandsworth, near St George’s.

Mr M Bailey – surgeon based at St George’s Tooting.

Also, Cameron and Clegg made pre-election promises to save Kingston Hospital. Were they lying?

So what chance did St Helier ever have in the ‘independent’ process?

And can we please be told who LB Sutton’s representatives were on the panel, and how they voted?
The truth may eventually come out but not until the current politicians careers meet their inevitibly tearful end and they make a few bob by writing their memoires or if a disgruntled manager takes it to the media.

Michael Pantlin says...
2:07pm Fri 11 May 12

The planning blight created by this announcement will aid the Masters of the Dark Arts who are running down St. Helier. The way it works is vacant posts will be hard to fill as the best staff will not want to apply for a job in a doomed department. This will affect service performance and allow the Destroyers to gather statistics in support of closing the parts they want to.

Giles C says...
5:13pm Fri 11 May 12

I gather that LBS were represented by a couple of officers and Dr Brendan Hudson was also there but not in a capacity as a cllr..but a clinician.
Bit odd that one.

shezzler says...
6:05pm Fri 11 May 12

If the A&E and maternity DO close then the staff in Ante Natal would get their just deserts, what is the saying "what comes round, comes round". Will be interesting to see what happens but for the broader aspect, yes would be sad if the changes went ahead.

Michael Pantlin says...
12:18pm Sun 13 May 12

Closing parts of St. Helier Hospital is not going to help the current revelations about insufficient beds and patients having to be treated in corridors and in the back of ambulances. You don't need to be a medicrat or panel member to work this out.

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